Rapeis Winston gets a 3 game suspension

[Soul Surfer]

what happened with Winston in college wasn't an "issue"....

Are you sure?
These dudes jumped me and shoved a broomstick in my rear end.

All my buddies just refer to that as an "issue".

It sure didn't feel like an "issue" at the time.

 

[Soul Surfer]

All right.
I just made that stuff up to make a point.

The point is;
How would you like it if somebody buddied up to you, drugged you, and then shoved something inside of you.

I bet you would be pissed off!

You can make excuses for people, you can minimalize it and you can be part of the continuing problem or you can be part of the solution.

 

[Soul Surfer]

You do know what compassion is, right flava?

It is realizing how blessed you are to be Americans and looking in the mirror and saying;
"Thank you Lord, there but for the grace of God go I".

And then wanting to share that blessing with others.

 

[Mackeyser]

What about the huuuuuge demorgraphic by forgeign males? That does count? My point is its not only females that is the only reason why the increase of salary cap etc.

Also why does it have to be old white guys? Does the color matter? No it doesnt.

old RICH white guys.

This applies to no one on this site in any way, shape or form.

I mean, you can keep missing that distinction, but you'd be willfully ignoring it.

I'm NOT saying it's just regular white dudes.

Lastly, if I really have to delve into the demographics, then I will, but a few folks seem bent to not recognize that women are nearly the sole reason for the growth in the current NFL (btw, foreign TV contracts amount to very little and as such, even if viewership abroad exploded, the NFL hasn't turned that into significant revenue...unlike with US TV/Satellite/Online contracts which have exploded in value).

So, does this really have to go there? Cuz I have a feeling that I can do a full dissertation and STILL we'll have people givin' me the "yabbits"....."yabbit, what about this group, what about that group? Yabbit..."

If I post all the numbers are you gonna believe those? Or is this a case of "I have an opinion and no numbers are gonna change my mind"

Cuz if it's that, then I'll just sigh and move on. I've already done this dance and not really interested in doing it again.

 

[fearsomefour]

It's all meaningless bullsh**.

 

[LesBaker]

you can be part of the solution.

Which I would rather be.........

It's all meaningless bullsh**.

What is meaningless bullshit?

 

[Corbin]

old RICH white guys.

This applies to no one on this site in any way, shape or form.

I mean, you can keep missing that distinction, but you'd be willfully ignoring it.

I'm NOT saying it's just regular white dudes.

Lastly, if I really have to delve into the demographics, then I will, but a few folks seem bent to not recognize that women are nearly the sole reason for the growth in the current NFL (btw, foreign TV contracts amount to very little and as such, even if viewership abroad exploded, the NFL hasn't turned that into significant revenue...unlike with US TV/Satellite/Online contracts which have exploded in value).

So, does this really have to go there? Cuz I have a feeling that I can do a full dissertation and STILL we'll have people givin' me the "yabbits"....."yabbit, what about this group, what about that group? Yabbit..."

If I post all the numbers are you gonna believe those? Or is this a case of "I have an opinion and no numbers are gonna change my mind"

Cuz if it's that, then I'll just sigh and move on. I've already done this dance and not really interested in doing it again.

What does color have to do with anything? Absolutely nothing. It’s the fad now to throw white this and white that out there but if you say black this or that that’s considered wrong or borderline. Tired of all this color bs. It’s dumb and we’ll never move forward as a people playing that bs identity politics doing it.

 

[fearsomefour]

What does color have to do with anything? Absolutely nothing. It’s the fad now to throw white this and white that out there but if you say black this or that that’s considered wrong or borderline. Tired of all this color bs. It’s dumb and we’ll never move forward as a people playing that bs identity politics doing it.

Easy crutches.

 

[Prime Time]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...defensive-triplets-jameis-winston-on-thin-ice

By Bucky Brooks

Window closing for Jameis Winston to prove reliability on and off field.

Winston was already heading into a "make or break" season with the Buccaneers, as a former No. 1 overall pick with a losing record as a starter (18-27) and bushel basket full of turnovers (59 giveaways in three seasons), but an expected mutliple-game suspension for a violation of the NFL's personal conduct policy certainly puts his long-term QB1 spot in jeopardy with the squad.

Now, I know the Buccaneers have already picked up Winston's fifth-year option and they've been squarely behind their franchise quarterback since making him the top selection in the 2015 draft, but I've been around the league long enough to know that you can't keep rallying behind a troubled player if his production doesn't outweigh his transgressions.

Like it or not, that's the way most front offices view "character risks," and Winston is running out of time to prove his worth as a player with yellow notices piling up in his personnel file.

While some of Winston's issues are unproven off-field allegations and on-field screw ups (SEE: finger-pointing exchange with Marshon Lattimore) and weird acts (eating a so-called "W" in a pre-game speech), it all continues a pattern of erratic behavior that clouded his status as a prospect prior to the 2015 draft.

Considering how franchise quarterbacks are expected to be polished in their actions, the ongoing drama surrounding Winston takes away from some of the good work that he has done between the lines. The one-time Pro Bowler has thrown for the third-most yards of any NFL quarterback during his first three NFL seasons in NFL history, behind only Andrew Luck (12,957) and Peyton Manning (12,287). In addition, he has improved his completion percentage and passer rating each season.

While those numbers are certainly impressive and worthy of kudos, Winston's turnover woes are quite disconcerting. Since 2015, the fourth-year pro has the second-most giveaways in the NFL, behind only Blake Bortles. Considering the impact of turnovers on the outcome of games, Winston's giveaways have been one of the reasons why the Bucs haven't been able to gain ground on their division rivals.

Remember, the NFC South houses three former NFL MVPs at quarterback (Drew Brees, Cam Newtonand Matt Ryan), so Winston needs to play like a top-tier signal-caller for the Buccaneers to have a chance at walking away with the division crown.

Studying the All-22 Coaches Film, Winston certainly possesses the ability to be an elite quarterback in this league. He displays A-level arm talent and throws with exceptional timing, touch and anticipation when he's on his game. He is one of the few quarterbacks capable of making every throw in the book to every area of the field, despite his strange inability to connect with DeSean Jackson and others on deep downfield throws in 2017.

On the flip side, Winston is an impatient playmaker prone to throwing the ball into traffic when he gets into "hero" mode. As a result, he registers turnovers on the kind of bonehead plays that you typically see at a youth football game. Winston's poor decisions -- on and off the field -- overshadow ability and natural leadership skills that coaches and executives covet in a franchise quarterback.

Without the miscues and misdeeds, Winston would be a clear franchise face. Just look at what Bucs co-chairman Joel Glazer said back in March at the NFL's Annual League Meeting in Orlando:

"The Jameis Winston that has been on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers since the day we drafted him has been a model in the community, a model in the locker room," Glazer said, via ESPN.com. "He's the first guy in the building, the last guy to leave the building, playing through pain, with injuries most people probably wouldn't play for. So he's done everything we were drawing up on the drawing board as our quarterback and the person we drafted."

To that point, Winston certainly possesses a lot of the intangibles that you want in a true QB1, but he has to play like the No. 1 overall pick and display the kind of composure that you would expect from a franchise player. Winston has to win and win big to convince the team that he is worth the headache. In a league where quarterbacks are ultimately judged by their rings, Winston will need to get the Buccaneers into the tournament to make the reward worth the risk in this current scenario.

 

[Tron]

You do know what compassion is, right flava?

It is realizing how blessed you are to be Americans and looking in the mirror and saying;
"Thank you Lord, there but for the grace of God go I".

And then wanting to share that blessing with others.

No politics or religion please

 

[Soul Surfer]

No politics or religion please

I'm not really religious in any conventional sense.
Just feeling particularly blessed.

 

[Farr Be It]

You do know what compassion is, right flava?

It is realizing how blessed you are to be Americans and looking in the mirror and saying;
"Thank you Lord, there but for the grace of God go I".

And then wanting to share that blessing with others.

Anytime in the past 2000 years this would not be considered controversial @Soul Surfer but as of recent history you have to recite 10 hail Darwins and take 20 hours sensitivity training.

Ahh. Groupthink can be so peaceful.

I liked your kind sentiment. Seemed full of love, and lacked judgement in any way.

 

[Merlin]

Yes it happens and I’m truly sorry it happened to you.

I think he's fortunate. Where were all these young and attractive teachers that put out for young boys when I was a kid???

I got robbed. My female teachers either resembled roadkill or had asses of an enormity that overwhelmed my young mind.

 

[LesBaker]

Winston was already heading into a "make or break" season with the Buccaneers, as a former No. 1 overall pick with a losing record as a starter (18-27) and bushel basket full of turnovers (59 giveaways in three seasons), but an expected mutliple-game suspension for a violation of the NFL's personal conduct policy certainly puts his long-term QB1 spot in jeopardy with the squad.

If I was the GM I'd be thinking about moving on unless he had a really strong year.

 

[bubbaramfan]

My 8th grade English teacher, Ms. Nelson, was a Playboy centerfold. The only thing I learned in that class was how to hide a boner.

 

[fearsomefour]

My 8th grade English teacher, Ms. Nelson, was a Playboy centerfold. The only thing I learned in that class was how to hide a boner.

See, life lessons abound!!

 

[Loyal]

Jameis Winston is such a waste of talent. I remember after we drafted Goff, the narrative was how much better Winston was than Goff, especially after the 2016 season and Goff’s seven game losing streak. I imagine that in the hearts of many Rams fans was that they would have traded Goff for Winston in a heartbeat during the Goff is a bust, phase. Man, I am so glad we got Goff....