Robert Woods Traded to Titans

[dang]

Shit compensation, clearly a salary dump.

You’ll be missed Robert. They better teach Skowronek how to catch the ball.

I agree it was a salary dump but I’m going to give the Rams the benefit of doubt and say they traded with a team that gives a Woods a good opportunity to succeed. Rams Legend in my book.

 

[payote75]

I agree it was a salary dump but I’m going to give the Rams the benefit of doubt and say they traded with a team that gives a Woods a good opportunity to succeed. Rams Legend in my book.

No they actually worked with woods for him to pick his destination. Probably got of gotten a much better pick as stated teams were calling. Woods picked titans and was excited to go there. Doesn't hurt any less for us but I will let this plan crystalize before I judge totally but still gut wrenching regardless.

 

[ReekofRams]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

@Mackeyser you do know the number to the Suicide Hotline don’t you?

 

[PhillyRam]

I looked at his contract and figured there would be little market for him right now, but the timing of his release (right after the stafford extension) makes sense. Woods becomes less affordable after stafford's backloaded extension starts kicking (during the last two years of Woodys contract). Les probably figured that he could trade him now or have to cut in after next season. Easy choice.

Yep, it's just not this yr, its 23', 24', 25' as well. It's a big help down the road for the cap.

You kind of knew last yr that both Kupp & Woods would not both finish their contracts.

Wait till the future when AD is just a little less dominant, but still good. We will cut his @ss in a heartbeat. That’s why I could never fault him if he said he was retiring tomorrow if he had enough. it’s days like this when I consider with utter derision, my user name. Loyalty is always misplaced in this game.

I could see them trading him to Pittsburgh someday, assuming he still wants to play.

 

[dang]

Wait till the future when AD is just a little less dominant, but still good. We will cut his @ss in a heartbeat. That’s why I could never fault him if he said he was retiring tomorrow if he had enough. it’s days like this when I consider with utter derision, my user name. Loyalty is always misplaced in this game.

That’s it: NFL - ‘Not Fuckin’ Loyal!!!’

 

[payote75]

View: https://twitter.com/nflrums/status/1505328434884624391?t=VdmZnmTdHxyqX8gLo7ZfbQ&s=19

 

[dang]

I don't believe Wagner is the sack monster we are looking for.

We need some true pressure that Von had in him.

Wagner with EJones would give us the best ILB tandem that I recall the Rams ever having. Not sacks but run defense and TE/RB pass coverage underneath.

 

[PhillyRam]

I saw a report that OBJ is talking with Dallas. Lose two good receivers and get nothing but a 6th rounder!?

You are forgetting Robinson

 

[Mojo Ram]

I love everything about Woods, but if he is ultimately the sacrifice to keep Staff and AD happy and in horns(extended) then so be it. Easy football decision.

Even with ARob added, I'll be disappointed if OBJ isn't retained though.

Offensively speaking...any leadership lost with guys like Woods and Whit was already gained when Stafford arrived a year ago. We all saw it on display. Having leadership at QB is leadership on a whole different level then any other position. We had very little there before #9.

 

[FarNorth]

It's not simple to explain. Short answers are often not completely accurate. Devil is in the Detail.

Short answer is that the Rams have to take previously paid bonus-$ onto their 2022 cap.

The best way to figure it out is to review contracts (once finalized ... Spotrac could be off here). Over time, it begins to make sense. I find cap management interesting and very relevant, so I try to follow it closely; and believe me, I make mistakes. So, please take what I write as my understanding and best-guess.

In this case, the $15.7M cap hit to the Rams represented Woods' $10M salary, $3.5M roster bonus (due tomorrow, I believe) PLUS pro-rated-bonus money (and maybe some other comp already paid). And that totaled $15.7M to the Rams' 2022 cap.

Tennessee is going to pay the $13.5M above. Spotrac already has it on the Titans 2022 cap.

The Rams have to take-on-to their 2022 cap ... as Dead-$ ... the pro-rated-bonus-$ (Already Paid) plus any additional bonus-$ (AGAIN, Already Paid) that would have been applied to subsequent years in Woods' contract had he remained with the Rams.

Even this is kind of a over-simplification.

Hmm... so what's the Rams' cap hit now? And even though the contract wasn't guaranteed for future years, would there have been a cap hit at some point if Woods had been traded or cut later, say, next year?

 

[dang]

I saw a report that OBJ is talking with Dallas. Lose two good receivers and get nothing but a 6th rounder!?

Dallas is like a hot chick at the bar. She gets a lot of attention but once you get up the nerve to talk to her you quickly realize she’s such an airhead the attraction quickly goes away.

 

[SeminoleRam]

View: https://twitter.com/nflrums/status/1505328434884624391?t=VdmZnmTdHxyqX8gLo7ZfbQ&s=19

 

[payote75]

Odell can't have been pissed or not been aware of the situation. He knew when he originally signed he was always supposed to play with Trees Kupp and Van. Now your subbing ARob for trees same shit. Now I know he felt maybe his skill set was unique for the Rams but with ARob not every fade or jump ball goes to Obj.

If and this is a huge if obj comes back and is even 85% the player he was or better that's lights out. One receiver that can highpoint is amazing but two is crazy let alone we are back to who do you cover? And he would be fresh. Then you have Harris waiting in the wings. We could put Sean Mannion back there or the great tj rubley and all they have to do is throw it in the air.

 

[Spider2YB]

View: https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/1505341392750620673?t=jS_TuAEIJnmipeQ0FsiTWw&s=09

As soon as I saw the 6th round return I knew this was the case

 

[thirteen28]

Really happy that the Rams worked with Woods to find him a destination where he wanted to go and didn't just ship him off to some shithole. That's a classy move and could pay dividends down the road, as other players know if they get into a similar situation but they have produced at least the Rams will work to make their next home one they want to go to.

 

[Mackeyser]

A few thoughts here:

1) Woods is just not an ideal fit for Stafford. We saw that last year and although he's a tremendous leader and great intermediate possession receiver and blocker, we just added a better overall WR in Robinson that better fits Stafford's skill set.

2) Coming off an ACL tear at 30yrs old and due $16M, it's a lot of money. This is why we didn't get great compensation for him, TEN is taking the contract obviously. Having three WRs all making $15M+ is insane.

3) We obviously want to sign OBJ and keep him around for more than just next year I'd guess. There's a good chance we end 2022 and enter 2023 with Kupp/Robinson/OBJ which would be the best trio in the NFL.

4) We invested multiple 2nd round picks in Van Jefferson and Tutu Atwell. They're both very young, we cant just give up and waste those picks by putting them at #5 and #6 on the depth chart. Now they should get some snaps and hopefully develop their games.

5) Rob has been tremendous for the Rams and I hate seeing him go but I get it. Wonderful captain, teammate, leader, SoCal kid. Wish him all the best in TEN and beyond.

Very nice thoughts here.

On number 4, I get it... plus we have big bodies in Skowronek and the MASSIVE potential of Jacob Harris.

But man, this hurts. I legit got up from a late nap (lil food coma and exhausted from cleaning all day) and as soon as I saw it, the tears started to fall.

Whit was the steady leader, AD is the guy so good, he may end up on the NFL Mt Rushmore... but Robert Woods... Bobby Trees... he was the heart and soul of this team.

It hurts today and I'll always appreciate how much of a DAWG he was for this team.

dammit... this legit hurts.

 

[BuffaloRam]

Wow! And of course it’s for another 6th round pick!!

 

[Mackeyser]

Well, its a similar sitch to Woods, with the roster bonus due tomorrow he's either moved tonight or he's wearing purple in '22

Hunter is likely released tomorrow in a cost saving move unless they rework his contract, but seeing as they are trying to move him, that seems unlikely. Not impossible, but unlikely.

 

[Allen2McVay]

Hmm... so what's the Rams' cap hit now? And even though the contract wasn't guaranteed for future years, would there have been a cap hit at some point if Woods had been traded or cut later, say, next year?

Rams' cap hit?
Do you mean 'How much cap space do they have?'
If so, it changes with every move. We don't know what Allen Robinson's or Matthew Stafford's 2022 cap hits are because the contract details have not yet come-out. It's all about the details.

As to the second question, the answer is Yes but the numbers vary depending upon whether a player is released or traded (those are different situations), and when a player is released or traded.

 

[Mackeyser]

Yeah...I can't even talk about it.

I FEEL YOU, BROTHER!!!