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Debacled said:
I think people will be pleasantly surprised with how not done Matthews is actually. There is a lot of talk going on about him looking like a shell of himself last year and the numbers just weren't there, but he got popped for a number of over the top roughing calls and was playing for a beat down Packers D that still got to opposing passers fairly frequently.

He is a LOT like Chris Long--a guy who people think is long in the tooth, but is still a very valuable asset. A high effort player who's impact is much larger on the guys around him than it is on the stat sheet.
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Not a bad comparison.
 
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FrantikRam said:
So this will cost us a comp pick, right? Or could make the comp pick for LMJ or Saffold go from a 4 to a 7? Not a fan.
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According to this https://www.hogshaven.com/2018/2/15/16986122/the-5-oclock-club-redskins-compensatory-picks-nfl

Mathews will likely cost us a later comp pick, for Alexander or another player lost.

I say this, because his contract is likely well below the 4th round level. In fact, given his age and experience, I doubt he fetches even a 5th (my understanding is that players with 10 years in the league can't have more than a 5th in comp. Only salary and guaranteed bonuses count for comp levels, not any incentives). So likely a 5th or 6th round pick for him - so that would balance against picks for Alexander, Mannion, etc. - because lower picks cancel out even lower picks before they cancel out higher picks. So, as usual, Demoff knew what he was doing.

Edit: Here's Over the Cap's explanation https://overthecap.com/the-basics-and-methodology-of-projecting-the-nfls-compensatory-draft-picks/
 
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Debacled said:
I think people will be pleasantly surprised with how not done Matthews is actually. There is a lot of talk going on about him looking like a shell of himself last year and the numbers just weren't there, but he got popped for a number of over the top roughing calls and was playing for a beat down Packers D that still got to opposing passers fairly frequently.o

He is a LOT like Chris Long--a guy who people think is long in the tooth, but is still a very valuable asset. A high effort player who's impact is much larger on the guys around him than it is on the stat sheet.
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I saw a few Packer games early last season and thought Matthews was really getting after the qb, only to be called for absurd roughing penalties several games in a row. But what I really like is that offenses will now have to account for Donald, Fowler and Matthews... how many blockers good enough to do that do most teams have? I expect that Wade is licking his chops in anticipation.
 
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Ram_Rally said:
Am I crazy for really wanting to see kiser?
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Well, If you are crazy for wanting to see Kiser then I must be even crazier because he was my favorite draft pick by the Rams last year! I kept my fingers crossed every round that the Rams would pick him and I never thought that he would drop as far as he did!!! I still think he will eventually be a starter for the Rams and will
be a very good player for them!
 
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Love the idea of using him as a situational rusher, but the money doesnt reflect that type of role.

Like the player, still think he has some left in the tank but no crazy about him being an every down player. Guess I need to know what the cap hit looks like.
 
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VegasRam said:
I think we should leave the money part to the people that do the money part.
Our analysis of signings based on the contract is so incredibly arrogant and ignorant at the same time that I’m pretty much at a loss for words.
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Occasionally there are monumentally bad contracts thrown around this league for all to see (Osweiller in Denver a couple years ago) but i agree with you wholeheartedly on this.
 
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Debacled said:
I think people will be pleasantly surprised with how not done Matthews is actually. There is a lot of talk going on about him looking like a shell of himself last year and the numbers just weren't there, but he got popped for a number of over the top roughing calls and was playing for a beat down Packers D that still got to opposing passers fairly frequently.

He is a LOT like Chris Long--a guy who people think is long in the tooth, but is still a very valuable asset. A high effort player who's impact is much larger on the guys around him than it is on the stat sheet.
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All of the above, and then some:football:
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Clay and Snead advertising for head and shoulders
 
Akrasian said:
According to this https://www.hogshaven.com/2018/2/15/16986122/the-5-oclock-club-redskins-compensatory-picks-nfl

Mathews will likely cost us a later comp pick, for Alexander or another player lost.

I say this, because his contract is likely well below the 4th round level. In fact, given his age and experience, I doubt he fetches even a 5th (my understanding is that players with 10 years in the league can't have more than a 5th in comp. Only salary and guaranteed bonuses count for comp levels, not any incentives). So likely a 5th or 6th round pick for him - so that would balance against picks for Alexander, Mannion, etc. - because lower picks cancel out even lower picks before they cancel out higher picks. So, as usual, Demoff knew what he was doing.

Edit: Here's Over the Cap's explanation https://overthecap.com/the-basics-and-methodology-of-projecting-the-nfls-compensatory-draft-picks/
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And here's OTC chart that they update almost every day on comp picks.

https://overthecap.com/compensatory-draft-picks-cancellation-chart/
 
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FaulkSF said:
Clay and Snead advertising for head and shoulders
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I was thinking along the same lines ... between the flowing locks of Matthews and Snead and the McVay hair gel situation, the Rams are going to be the go-to team for advertisers of men's hair care products.
 
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