The Goff Thread

[Loyal]

Yeah. No. Goff right now is a liability. I cannot remember the last time I felt so uncomfortable with a Rams QB.... 2002 injured Warner maybe.

Sean Mannion?

 

[Angry Ram]

A good coach doesn't stop coaching and leading. How does McVay get through to Jared?

Coach shouldn't have to do that to a 5th year vet QB. He's a big boy now. Protecting the ball is all he needs to do.

Coach needs to worry about evolving the team, not having to devote time to the QB.

 

[Ramlock]

I think it’s Golden

 

[tempests]

Probably the best thing they can do to help their QB is get their running game going again. Take some of the pressure off.

 

[fearsomefour]

Sean Mannion?

The list is fucking endless.
I’ll toss in Kyle Boller, AJ Feeley and Nick Foles.

 

[Mackeyser]

Prolly because of Golden T A T E... who really is a Taint...

 

[SteezyEndo]

Another bad outing by Goff. If you're McVay how would you motivate Goff? His level of play is unacceptable.

I dunno about other people, but being in the military was much easier being single...I am saying this because a lot of outside noise can affect judgement. You get sad, mad for no reason, like if Goffs lifestyle or his G/F lifestyle is affecting him he needs to address it and make the decision. Motivation? I thought McVay was hype enough. I don't think its motivation only.

 

[TomMack]

35 mill a year isn’t motivation enough?? You’ve got to be kidding me.
the dude doesn’t even know where the sun rises and sets.

 

[Mackeyser]

We're rapidly approaching the threshold even if just for this year where McVay is gonna have to manage Goff as if he's a backup and not a $30+M starter.

Turn him into a game manager until he gets his confidence back.

WE KNOW he's capable as he was aces against the Chiefs.

Either something is wrong or teams have figured his eyes out and I dunno if he can be retrained if that's the case... or he's slightly injured and they refuse to talk about it.

But SOMETHING is off and if McVay doesn't adjust to Goff's current reality, then the rest of this season is going to be an exercise in futility.

 

[WarnerToBruce]

Week 8, sportscasters nationwide claimed that Goff had his worst game as a QB. Goff in his press conference confirms that it was his worst game ever. He makes the comment "I've never played that badly. I will never again play that badly."

Stat line from ESPN:

This week, Goff single-handedly blows the 49er game, and says in his press conference when asked how he recovers from this: "I have bounced back from these kinds of games before, just another hurdle. I HOPE not to have too many more of these the rest of the YEAR."

Stat line form ESPN:

So here is where we are. Worst game ever, will never happen again, to an even worse game where he HOPES it doesn't happen too many more times this season..

Buckle up, boys. Gonna be a bumpy ride.

 

[FaulkSF]

Coach shouldn't have to do that to a 5th year vet QB. He's a big boy now. Protecting the ball is all he needs to do.

Coach needs to worry about evolving the team, not having to devote time to the QB.

Understand where you're going. Yes McVay should be able to rely on the QB coach. I'm wondering if the tough love Bruce Arians is showing Brady is needed or if there is something else to stoke a fire. Bradford was the same way, very even keeled.

I just don't think Goff sees these losses as they're on his shoulders. How do you get through to him and keep him motivated?

 

[Giles]

We're rapidly approaching the threshold even if just for this year where McVay is gonna have to manage Goff as if he's a backup and not a $30+M starter.

Turn him into a game manager until he gets his confidence back.

WE KNOW he's capable as he was aces against the Chiefs.

Either something is wrong or teams have figured his eyes out and I dunno if he can be retrained if that's the case... or he's slightly injured and they refuse to talk about it.

But SOMETHING is off and if McVay doesn't adjust to Goff's current reality, then the rest of this season is going to be an exercise in futility.

That should've been done when mcvay realized this d is legit. Run the ball and play defense.

 

[dieterbrock]

I have an idea, instead of posting in a thread about Goff, lets all just start a new thread of our own

 

[bubbaramfan]

For Rams sake, get Goff into the weight room. He's a freaking weakling.

 

[TXRams86]

Well the obvious is to make him the face of the franchise and pay him like a franchise QB. Oh wait, we're already doing that. Maybe he's had enough motivation and what he really needs now is a kick in the ass. Not signing a back up QB that has the ability to push him was a mistake. I don't know what the QB coach situation is but he doesn't seem to have small fundamentals you expect in a seasoned QB: clock management, when to throw the ball away, when to slide, check in and out of plays, slide protection, etc etc. Not sure those things require motivation.

 

[Ramlock]

I just don't think Goff sees these losses as they're on his shoulders.

I’ve never thought that.

He still needs to take coaching and execute.

 

[Ellard80]

its not motivation - its decision making when you have just a moment to make the decision.

It's probably the biggest difference between the average and great or average and bad QB.

Warner didn't have the arm or heigth that goff has.. but what warner had above all else was his decision making ability.

I'm not sure if you can teach a QB to see the field at this point in his career - that is one of Goff's biggest issues. He just doesn't see the open guy. Also he will make a couple lazer throws than miss a wide open guy. I have not given up hope by any means on Goff, but being honest I feel like Mcvay gets blamed for the offense when really the issue is that Goff can't execute it consistently.

 

[SteezyEndo]

he doesn't seem to have small fundamentals you expect in a seasoned QB: clock management, when to throw the ball away, when to slide, check in and out of plays, slide protection, etc etc. Not sure those things require motivation.

^^^This. Like Goff was good when we briefly had Greg Olson. He had good mechanics and everything else a good QB is supposed to have.

 

[FaulkSF]

I’ve never thought that.

He still needs to take coaching and execute.

Sometimes I see his coolness as coming off nonchalant. That is what I mean by saying he doesn't take the losses very personally.