Stan Kroenke appreciation thread

[RamFan503]

No it wasn't, it was fact,

Find it.

 

[LesBaker]

Find it.

Dude just Google it........I'm sure there is PLENTY of info.

Khan had a sort of agreement drawn up. Kreonke wanted a buyout to pass on his first rights. The deal was in the hands of Chip and Lucia.

You're not up to speed here. But whatever I'm not going back and forth on this.

 

[RamFan503]

Dude just Google it........I'm sure there is PLENTY of info.

Khan had a sort of agreement drawn up. Kreonke wanted a buyout to pass on his first rights. The deal was in the hands of Chip and Lucia.

You're not up to speed here. But whatever I'm not going back and forth on this.

Can you read Leslie? I did. There is NOTHING beyond what I already said and there was only that vague reference in the Business Journal when it was floated out there at the time.

Again - find anything factual on it. Come on... there must be plenty of info. It was all bullshit started by a butt hurt "journalist".

What's hilarious is when someone throws out an accusation and tries to state it as fact and then tells others to prove what he said didn't happen.

You guys made the accusation. Proving it is on you. I'll wait but you will refuse to try because you know what you will find - NOTHING.

 

[LesBaker]

Read..........some offer details, some rehash what came out back then.

https://www.stltoday.com/sports/foo...cle_1de8d5c1-f423-5ae8-9032-f25eadd5155a.html

Discussed at the owners meeting

https://www.stltoday.com/sports/foo...cle_6967e37c-cde8-5bb9-907b-df7198a24304.html

Here is Googles results on this, it is not a rumor. They met in person and discussed this.

https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1...k1j0i20i263k1j0i22i30k1j33i21k1.0.rDzac8N0-7E

Feel free to drop the smug ass attitude and passive aggressive crap and insulting posture at any time.

 

[Corbin]

He had input, he wasn't just cashing the checks. He was involved.



lier,lier pants on fier.

Doesn't mean a damn thing. If you don't have final say nothing can be held liable on you for results. Obviously between shit bag Georgia and their place owner kiddos there was nobody who really made any good decisions period.

Since he has become majority owner the guy has made the franchise phenomenal period.

 

[RamFan503]

Read..........some offer details, some rehash what came out back then.

https://www.stltoday.com/sports/foo...cle_1de8d5c1-f423-5ae8-9032-f25eadd5155a.html

Discussed at the owners meeting

https://www.stltoday.com/sports/foo...cle_6967e37c-cde8-5bb9-907b-df7198a24304.html

Here is Googles results on this, it is not a rumor. They met in person and discussed this.

https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1...k1j0i20i263k1j0i22i30k1j33i21k1.0.rDzac8N0-7E

Feel free to drop the smug ass attitude and passive aggressive crap and insulting posture at any time.

Read all of them before posting what I said. Apparently you haven’t. Point to the facts as you see them. They are not there. Hell, the one where you say it was discussed at the owners meeting doesn’t even mention the supposed “greenmail”. I’m on my phone right now so maybe I missed it. Care to quote it?

And what you consider a smug attitude is me being tired of some bringing up the rumor with literally nothing to substantiate it beyond one reporter with vague statements and one unnamed source.

 

[RamFan503]

Hey guys. I despised the way Georgia and the Clown Show ran the franchise as much as anyone. Maybe we can however, end the reference to her with the terms I am seeing thrown around here. Technically it is not a violation as she is no longer part of the organization. But is it helping in the discussion or merely pissing people off.

I get that people are still pissed and I also get that people are still pissed at what went down in the Lou.

The thing to ask is, “does it help the conversation”?

 

[VegasRam]

No, it doesn’t help the conversation.
But then, that’s not really the point.

The point is “I’m a business owner, so I understand profit”, but I’m not as successful as my neighbor Bob, so he must be an asshole.
Why is he an asshole?
Because people will pay what he charges for his product, (which is better than mine), and therefore, he’s a turd and I’m under-appreciated.

Jesus Wept.

 

[badnews]

Right now, ESK and Rams fans want the same thing. Sean McVay and this roster have us all thinking Super Bowls after exactly 1 winning season in 15 years.

Kroenke has been a player in the Rams story for over a quarter century. He was a key player and the catalyst for the team being moved to St Louis in the first place and when he took full ownership he did nothing to build a winner or even excitement in STL, claiming a lack of fans in the STL market was forcing him to make yet another move that would hurt the local fanbase that had given so much of their hard earned money to him...

As a business man he is ambitious, patient and stone cold when going in for the kill.
As an owner, I think he may have struck gold with the teaming of Demoff, Snead and McVay. His vision for the Rams in LA is exciting and its taking shape before our eyes. Now that it is in his best interest to win and build excitement, his deep pockets, big ambitions and team of football minds are making for a potentially great era of Rams fandom. Maybe the hard times are gone for good and Kroenke is an awesome owner for the next quarter century?
He might be a decent human being and prove to be a great owner but I cant celebrate the man yet. Having said that, he will get his cut of my money too..

 

[Merlin]

Hey guys. I despised the way Georgia and the Clown Show ran the franchise as much as anyone. Maybe we can however, end the reference to her with the terms I am seeing thrown around here. Technically it is not a violation as she is no longer part of the organization. But is it helping in the discussion or merely pissing people off.

I get that people are still ticked and I also get that people are still ticked at what went down in the Lou.

The thing to ask is, “does it help the conversation”?

I'd like to remind folks that this is an appreciation thread for the dude, and that the rationale behind its creation is that I feel like he has done a lot of good things without any real positive feedback from most Rams boards to include this one. Not that he reads or cares of course, but was just trying to get that across.

I mean for any who hate the dude that much then just try to steer clear. There's no reason to escalate things on a thread meant to appreciate someone or something related to the team. Is there? I can guarantee you that if someone starts a Georgia appreciation thread I'd have to steer clear...

 

[VegasRam]

Your St Louis argument is specious bullshit. The city did not honor the contract, period.
I watched the worst team in the NFL for almost twenty five fucking years, except for the lightning in a bottle season, and management (term used loosely) even managed to fuck that up.
Then SK takes over, builds a winner in 5 years, and he’s an asshole?
Why can’t you admire the man?

And btw, he didn’t “strike gold”, he hired the fucking guys. Because he knew what he was doing, and still does. Then he builds a beautiful stadium on his own dime, and you guys bitch about him.
With conjecture and rumors and personal opinion and agendas, but very few, if any at all facts.

GTFO.

 

[VegasRam]

And not for nothing, I do read and try to adhere to the “think before you post” mantra. And I do.... I really do ...
try.

It’s just hard sometimes, and having turned 70, my give a fuck meter is malfunctioning.
So I’m fully prepared to take my Mod Meds as necessary/recommended.

 

[badnews]

I'd like to remind folks that this is an appreciation thread for the dude, and that the rationale behind its creation is that I feel like he has done a lot of good things without any real positive feedback from most Rams boards to include this one. Not that he reads or cares of course, but was just trying to get that across.

I mean for any who hate the dude that much then just try to steer clear. There's no reason to escalate things on a thread meant to appreciate someone or something related to the team. Is there? I can guarantee you that if someone starts a Georgia appreciation thread I'd have to steer clear...

I would say that a SK appreciation thread provokes peoples opinions on a forum where discussion and disagreement is typical.
To expect a united front of support for a person who has been involved in the relocation of the team two times, the last time only a couple years ago, might be asking too much.
I say he gets my money and thats all he wants from us fans anyways. If he cared what I thought of him, we wouldn't be where we are now.

 

[FarNorth]

Your St Louis argument is specious bullcrap. The city did not honor the contract, period.
I watched the worst team in the NFL for almost twenty five freaking years, except for the lightning in a bottle season, and management (term used loosely) even managed to freak that up.
Then SK takes over, builds a winner in 5 years, and he’s an icehole?
Why can’t you admire the man?

And btw, he didn’t “strike gold”, he hired the freaking guys. Because he knew what he was doing, and still does. Then he builds a beautiful stadium on his own dime, and you guys bitch about him.
With conjecture and rumors and personal opinion and agendas, but very few, if any at all facts.

GTFO.

I agree. I will not argue this further in a forum but here's my view.

As someone who grew up in St Louis and a St Louis Rams fan I wasn't happy when the Rams left. But it's important to be fair minded about what happened. The Edward Jones Dome and RSA refused to honor their contractual commitment to upgrade the Dome. They participated in an arbitration, lost, and then refused to honor the arbitration outcome. They also sought to make the Rams pay to renovate the Dome, an approach which had no basis in the contract. In effect their participation was a heads we win, tails you lose approach which to me demonstrated a serious lack of good faith. IMO you should not participate in that type of proceeding if you do not intend to abide by the result.

The result was that Kroenke could and did opt out of the lease. He had no obligation to deal with the public sports authorities any further. If I were him I would not have done so after their rather obvious bad behavior. Nor would I or anyone in their right mind have signed another lease with them.

Sorry to all who feel otherwise, but I see nothing dishonorable in Kroenke's move to LA, and am tired of seeing him characterized as the villain without any acknowledgement of the role of the city in what happened.

 

[badnews]

Your St Louis argument is specious bullcrap. The city did not honor the contract, period.
I watched the worst team in the NFL for almost twenty five freaking years, except for the lightning in a bottle season, and management (term used loosely) even managed to freak that up.
Then SK takes over, builds a winner in 5 years, and he’s an icehole?
Why can’t you admire the man?

And btw, he didn’t “strike gold”, he hired the freaking guys. Because he knew what he was doing, and still does. Then he builds a beautiful stadium on his own dime, and you guys bitch about him.
With conjecture and rumors and personal opinion and agendas, but very few, if any at all facts.

GTFO.

Are you drunk?

Look, this about opinions. I happen to be one of the ones to get fucked by him, yet I dont hate him. I just dont feel the need to celebrate the guy.

Sorry that my opinion hurts you so deeply.
As minority owner, was anything stopping him from using his deep pockets to help a poor franchise hire good people? No. It just wasnt in his interest back then.
All I am saying is that the road to Stans Rams Palace in LA has been littered with bad teams and broken hearted fans. Now that the future is bright, I should forget how things shake down?

And since when is striking gold a bad thing? It wasnt a criticism ffs!!
Good job Stan! - is that better?
He also held on to Jeff Fisher for a while longer than most would. Good job Stan! He did do nothing to build excitement in STL, I know, I worked next door to Rams park. Good job Stan!

You can view the past in whatever way that makes you comfortable, but dont tell me to GTFO for having a different p.o.v..

 

[Corbin]

Are you drunk?

Look, this about opinions. I happen to be one of the ones to get freaked by him, yet I dont hate him. I just dont feel the need to celebrate the guy.

Sorry that my opinion hurts you so deeply.
As minority owner, was anything stopping him from using his deep pockets to help a poor franchise hire good people? No. It just wasnt in his interest back then.
All I am saying is that the road to Stans Rams Palace in LA has been littered with bad teams and broken hearted fans. Now that the future is bright, I should forget how things shake down?

And since when is striking gold a bad thing? It wasnt a criticism ffs!!
Good job Stan! - is that better?
He also held on to Jeff Fisher for a while longer than most would. Good job Stan! He did do nothing to build excitement in STL, I know, I worked next door to Rams park. Good job Stan!

You can view the past in whatever way that makes you comfortable, but dont tell me to GTFO for having a different p.o.v..

Your St Louis argument is specious bullcrap. The city did not honor the contract, period.
I watched the worst team in the NFL for almost twenty five freaking years, except for the lightning in a bottle season, and management (term used loosely) even managed to freak that up.
Then SK takes over, builds a winner in 5 years, and he’s an icehole?
Why can’t you admire the man?

And btw, he didn’t “strike gold”, he hired the freaking guys. Because he knew what he was doing, and still does. Then he builds a beautiful stadium on his own dime, and you guys bitch about him.
With conjecture and rumors and personal opinion and agendas, but very few, if any at all facts.

GTFO.

If anybody struck gold it was you for writing this post. Some peoples asses will always be chapped no matter what. A bit harsh but those who strike out on any post that generally relates to relocation or a subject they can throw it in they generally do since that's the environment that was created here months ago..

 

[jjab360]

Is there anyone here who didn't see this thread heading south from miles away? Lol.

Subjects gentlemen don't talk about in mixed company: Politics, religion, Bradford over Suh, and the St. Louis -> LA Rams relocation.

 

[LesBaker]

In effect their participation was a heads we win, tails you lose approach which to me demonstrated a serious lack of good faith.

IMO the dome is probably better off financially without the Rams, the lease was so cheap and taking premium dates off the schedule was not in it's best interests. 10 weekends a year (and more when they made the playoffs) kept them from getting 2 and 3 day events. Those king of events are good money makers for venues.

With a venue like that if you are renting it and have been selling into a show you can't run the risk of being bumped by the team so it actually takes a couple more weekends off the calendar.

They will probably add several events that they couldn't have brought in before.

Bradford over Suh

Oh yes, that was all Bulger's fault.

 

[VegasRam]

You can view the past in whatever way that makes you comfortable, but dont tell me to GTFO for having a different p.o.v..

That wasn't directed solely at you, and I should have said "C'mon guys, really"?
My bad - apologies.

Are you drunk?

I don't usually drink, but when I do, I post.

And since when is striking gold a bad thing? It wasnt a criticism ffs!!
Good job Stan! - is that better?

I took it as a criticism, as in he isn't bright enough to hire good people.
Again, my bad.

 

[Akrasian]

I don't usually drink, but when I do, I post.

A true ROD member.