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Hey Loyal. Not a big deal but we try to encourage people not to misspell curse words. Some on here have the filter on so that it changes the curse word to something less offensive to them. I don't of course.:sneaky: But we try to be respectful to those who do. Like I said, not a big deal - but we have the filter there as an option for a reason. Thanks man.
How will I speak? the horror....
 

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https://theathletic.com/705234/2018...erbacks-playoff-jared-goff-mitchell-trubisky/



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(Despite his poor play on Sunday night, the Bears didn’t lose to the Rams, and it was because as bad as Trubisky played, Jared Goff played worse. Credit the Bears defense, but the Rams quarterback looked like he had zero interest in being in the cold. Goff never engaged with his teammates, and when the defense was on the field, Goff was bundled up with a ski cap on his head sitting near the heaters. Rams head coach Sean McVay can deflect all the blame and take responsibility for Goff playing poorly, but the cold weather bothers Goff. Going into the game, Goff, a California kid, was involved in just four games below 40 degrees, and his statistics were awful. 51% completion percentage, 6.49 YPA, 5 TDS, 3 INT, sacked 14 times and a 75.2 quarterback rating. It’s a good thing the Rams won’t have to play in the cold during the playoffs.

The more significant issue for the Rams to ponder and eventually answer: Is Goff a franchise quarterback worthy of a massive $30 million a year contract? I’m sold on McVay, but not Goff. Overall with McVay, Goff is 22-7 as a starter, counting the playoffs for the Rams, and has thrown 56 touchdown passes and 18 interceptions. However, the more I watch Goff when he has to deal with pressure inside, or when he has to play fast with bodies all around him, or without Todd Gurley running the ball, the more I fall in love with McVay’s ability to design an offense and provide easy wide open throws for Goff to execute. Each time I watch the Rams I say that I bet McVay can get anyone to make these throws. Last week I was talking to a former NFL quarterback who is still in great shape and said, “You could have a 300-yard game passing right now if McVay were your coach. He laughed and said, “You’re right.”

Last year in the playoffs, Goff ranked as the worst quarterback according to ESPN’s QBR rating with his play against the Falcons. After that game, McVay once again took the heat, deflecting the blame away from Goff, believing he did not have a great plan. Plan or no plan, Goff did not play well in the Falcons game or in Sunday night’s loss.

McVay might be right when he says he did not have a good plan against the Bears. His offense is not about Goff, its all about Todd Gurley and when Gurley is not going, the Rams usually don’t go. During McVay’s tenure with the Rams, his team is undefeated when Gurley touches the ball 17 times or more. When he touches the ball fewer than 17 times, they are 5-7. Last night he only carried the ball 11 times (a loss), against the Chiefs 12 (a dramatic win) and the Saints 13 (a loss). With the one major exception being that Rams-Chiefs barnburner, Gurley has been the straw that stirs the drink in the Rams’ offense. When McVay puts the ball in Goff’s hand more than Gurley, he usually at least runs the risk of losing.

It’s been a wildly successful season for the Rams, particularly on offense, and they still only have two losses. It’s very easy to believe that Goff needs to be well-paid as a result, but as an executive, you must be honest and objective. Goff’s last two performances are reason for at least a bit of hesitation moving forward. The upcoming playoffs will offer a much better indication of whether Goff is a superstar on his own or if McVay has made Goff better than we all believe. The Rams coach is a difference maker and definitely deserves a new and massive contract, but I will wait until the playoff run is over before I declare Goff worthy of being the highest paid quarterback in the NFL. For all the great games Goff has played in September and October, the games in December and January against great defenses will be the real measuring stick when it comes time to be compensated.)
This fucking guy. He’s just been waiting to write this. He can’t help himself though. The video of him saying Goff was basically unfit for the NFL is out and he can’t change his narrative now. So 10 years from now when Goff has won 3 Superbowls it’s possible we will probably still be getting these articles.

You’ll never convince me you could just throw any QB in our offense. There’s about 5 throws Goff made this year that idk if I’ve ever seen another guy make.
 

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As others have mentioned, pass blocking on a majority of plays can wear down an O-line, while run blocking puts an O-line on the offensive. Just look at how a run-centric game plan has transformed a sub-par O-line like the Seahawks.
Ding...ding...ding... give the man a prize!

I've said this for decades now (going back to Martz)... an offensive line would much rather run block than pass protect.

It's so simple... what would you rather do? Blast out of your three point stance and put everything into mauling the guy across from you? Have the element of surprise (you know the snap count)?

Or, immediately be on the defensive... getting pushed backwards. Trying to anticipate the opponent's moves?

Establishing the run does so many things for an offense:
* Gets the linemen "into the game"
* If the run game is working (which it usually is with Gurley), it builds confidence
* It's less stressful for the linemen... not having to worry if they miss their block and the QB gets hurried/sacked
* And, most importantly, it opens up play action.

If you fail to establish a running game... if it becomes predictable that you are going to pass, that adds tremendous stress to the offensive line.

And, when you do that? Even a good line can look bad.

Establish the run, McVay... and good thing are likely to happen!

Go Rams... beat those Pidegeons.
 

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His dad is a firemean, and knows the reality of the conspiracy related to the Paradise fires--- a guess. DEW. And, if Goff knows, then he too is a little down...ok, a willllld, very wild guess. I felt down after I realized 9-1-1 in NY was an inside job. NO one wants to know that truth.
 

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His dad is a firemean, and knows the reality of the conspiracy related to the Paradise fires--- a guess. DEW. And, if Goff knows, then he too is a little down...ok, a willllld, very wild guess. I felt down after I realized 9-1-1 in NY was an inside job. NO one wants to know that truth.
911 was an inside job?
 

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His dad is a firemean, and knows the reality of the conspiracy related to the Paradise fires--- a guess. DEW. And, if Goff knows, then he too is a little down...ok, a willllld, very wild guess. I felt down after I realized 9-1-1 in NY was an inside job. NO one wants to know that truth.
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Is 2018 Los Angeles Rams QB Jared Goff the finished product?
By joeyaucoin
https://www.turfshowtimes.com/2018/...-bears-finished-product-potential-development

Premature whispers that the Rams’ franchise QB is essentially a finished product that can no longer blame a bad game on growing pains are getting louder.
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Observers so far been extremely uncomfortable going all-in on Los Angeles Rams QB Jared Goff. So after his worst game in a long while as a Ram, Goff fed the developing narrative that he can’t play in the cold. And before that, it was that he can’t play well under bad coaching.


Not sure what’s more damning, but does it really matter?Jared Goff played poorly in both cold away games in Denver and in Chicago where the temperature hovered around 25 degrees. Against the Denver Broncos, Goff had a 50% completion percentage with 201 passing yards, no touchdowns and one interception. Against the Chicago Bears, it was more like a frosty nightmare: 180 passing yards, 45.5%, no touchdowns and four interceptions.

So hello, narrative. Goff has tiny cold hands and won’t be able to play outside in December outside of SoCal.
"Jared Goff was absolutely befuddled. But he wasn't befuddled by the Bears' defense, it was the artic air of Chicago. The 12th man of the frozen tundra of Soldier Field."
@BenMallerhttps://t.co/LvwEOMPtZt
— FOX Sports Radio (@FoxSportsRadio) December 10, 2018
Responding to questions about Goff’s poor play being blamed on the cold, Coach Sean McVay said this:

“I don’t think that affected him. I think, again, there were some great throws that he made in that game yesterday and then there were certainly a handful of situations where he was put in tough spots.”

And that leads to a question. If the poor play isn’t a product of some “cold weather flaw” that is embedded in Goff’s makeup as a QB, then what’s the deal with his on-and-off struggles this season? Is Goff still growing and this recent effort in Chicago is just a learning experience, or this the real Jared that we should just accept from time to time? Will we be seeing similar fluctuations in performance five years from now?

Until now, it seemed that any criticism of Goff seemed reactionary, but at some point a player stops maturing and getting better and just is the kind of player they’ll always be. With a guy like Goff, I would have thought that he had another season before I could say with certainty if his ceiling has been hit.

It’s strange that even though he’s the son of Jerry Goff, a former Major League Baseball player, Goff still has this whiff of an underdog — an otherwise successful talent that has been dogged by intermittent misfortune. Even his reputation as a collegiate player for Cal revolved around his adversity that he showed after getting his ass handed to him during this freshman year going 1-11, yet still throwing for over 3,500 yards. His seven games as rookie under Jeff Fisher still lingers in the air, mixing with the reality that Goff leads a team that is currently 11-2.

Since the Bears loss was on the national stage, the narrative that Jared Goff struggled mightily against strong defenses on the road is going to be an easy take, and why not? Even if the Los Angeles Rams hold home field advantage throughout the playoffs and win the Super Bowl, the offseason think pieces are still going to wonder if Jared Goff can keep the magic going on the road, in the cold, against a strong defense.Eventually, our 24-year-old QB is going to find himself in an NFC championship game in Green Bay or Chicago and until then...The book on Jared Goff remains unfinished.
https://theathletic.com/705234/2018...erbacks-playoff-jared-goff-mitchell-trubisky/



Michael Lombardi
(Despite his poor play on Sunday night, the Bears didn’t lose to the Rams, and it was because as bad as Trubisky played, Jared Goff played worse. Credit the Bears defense, but the Rams quarterback looked like he had zero interest in being in the cold. Goff never engaged with his teammates, and when the defense was on the field, Goff was bundled up with a ski cap on his head sitting near the heaters. Rams head coach Sean McVay can deflect all the blame and take responsibility for Goff playing poorly, but the cold weather bothers Goff. Going into the game, Goff, a California kid, was involved in just four games below 40 degrees, and his statistics were awful. 51% completion percentage, 6.49 YPA, 5 TDS, 3 INT, sacked 14 times and a 75.2 quarterback rating. It’s a good thing the Rams won’t have to play in the cold during the playoffs.

The more significant issue for the Rams to ponder and eventually answer: Is Goff a franchise quarterback worthy of a massive $30 million a year contract? I’m sold on McVay, but not Goff. Overall with McVay, Goff is 22-7 as a starter, counting the playoffs for the Rams, and has thrown 56 touchdown passes and 18 interceptions. However, the more I watch Goff when he has to deal with pressure inside, or when he has to play fast with bodies all around him, or without Todd Gurley running the ball, the more I fall in love with McVay’s ability to design an offense and provide easy wide open throws for Goff to execute. Each time I watch the Rams I say that I bet McVay can get anyone to make these throws. Last week I was talking to a former NFL quarterback who is still in great shape and said, “You could have a 300-yard game passing right now if McVay were your coach. He laughed and said, “You’re right.”

Last year in the playoffs, Goff ranked as the worst quarterback according to ESPN’s QBR rating with his play against the Falcons. After that game, McVay once again took the heat, deflecting the blame away from Goff, believing he did not have a great plan. Plan or no plan, Goff did not play well in the Falcons game or in Sunday night’s loss.

McVay might be right when he says he did not have a good plan against the Bears. His offense is not about Goff, its all about Todd Gurley and when Gurley is not going, the Rams usually don’t go. During McVay’s tenure with the Rams, his team is undefeated when Gurley touches the ball 17 times or more. When he touches the ball fewer than 17 times, they are 5-7. Last night he only carried the ball 11 times (a loss), against the Chiefs 12 (a dramatic win) and the Saints 13 (a loss). With the one major exception being that Rams-Chiefs barnburner, Gurley has been the straw that stirs the drink in the Rams’ offense. When McVay puts the ball in Goff’s hand more than Gurley, he usually at least runs the risk of losing.

It’s been a wildly successful season for the Rams, particularly on offense, and they still only have two losses. It’s very easy to believe that Goff needs to be well-paid as a result, but as an executive, you must be honest and objective. Goff’s last two performances are reason for at least a bit of hesitation moving forward. The upcoming playoffs will offer a much better indication of whether Goff is a superstar on his own or if McVay has made Goff better than we all believe. The Rams coach is a difference maker and definitely deserves a new and massive contract, but I will wait until the playoff run is over before I declare Goff worthy of being the highest paid quarterback in the NFL. For all the great games Goff has played in September and October, the games in December and January against great defenses will be the real measuring stick when it comes time to be compensated.)

these two articles should be named dumb and dumber.

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It's amazing how fast the narrative changes with Goff after a couple bad outings. It's like people WANT the kid to fail. Sad....
 

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It's amazing how fast the narrative changes with Goff after a couple bad outings. It's like people WANT the kid to fail. Sad....
It really is. Meanwhile Philly's #2 pick is broken mentally and physically. We should be fortune to have Goff as our future.
 

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Wait a minute. I am confused here. Some are calling for Goff to get a break before the playoffs? It seems to me the offense has a hard time getting their game together after a break. Lost a playoff game last year to Atlanta after resting out players, and we've looked out of it ever since the bye. Seems like we need to play hard every game, like we were the 11 weeks.
 

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It's amazing how fast the narrative changes with Goff after a couple bad outings. It's like people WANT the kid to fail. Sad....

Sorry but that's just such a silly conclusion.

This board is filled with Rams fans .... why would we WANT Goff to fail?

Think about that for a little while - it makes no sense.
 

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His dad is a firemean, and knows the reality of the conspiracy related to the Paradise fires--- a guess. DEW. And, if Goff knows, then he too is a little down...ok, a willllld, very wild guess. I felt down after I realized 9-1-1 in NY was an inside job. NO one wants to know that truth.

YES!!!
Goff is a Deep Threat — oopsie I meant to say Deep Throat

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Sorry but that's just such a silly conclusion.

This board is filled with Rams fans .... why would we WANT Goff to fail?

Think about that for a little while - it makes no sense.
Nothing silly about it. Goff has a couple bad games and somebody revives the Goff is elite thread saying " I told you so"
Dont get mad because poster are pointing out the obvious when it comes to what people post.
 
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Sorry but that's just such a silly conclusion.

This board is filled with Rams fans .... why would we WANT Goff to fail?

Think about that for a little while - it makes no sense.
I was referring to the asshole beat writers, not ROD peeps. Thanks for the different opinion though.....
 

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Nothing silly about it. Goff has a couple bad games and somebody revives the Goff is elite thread saying " I told you so"
Dont get made because poster are pointing out the obvious when it comes to what people post.

Not really its just people pouting that someone posts a different opinion than them.

Like someone posts that a Rams player is the bestest in the world after 2 games.. that's reasonable. But if someone posts that they are worried after 2 games....

Then they Must hate the player.

It's annoying and childish.
 
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Not really its just people pouting and being childish that someone posts a different opinion than them.

So if they do they Must hate all the players.

It's annoying and childish.
Bringing up a dead thread to say I told you so is annoying and childish.
 

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Bringing up a dead thread to say I told you so is annoying and childish.

Thread wasn't dead when Goff was on a hot streak people were bringing it up all the time. After the detroit game no one posted on it... but then like ONE person posted on it after the Bears game.

It's not that dramatic.
 

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Thread wasn't dead when Goff was on a hot streak people were bringing it up all the time. After the detroit game no one posted on it... but then like ONE person posted on it after the Bears game.

It's not that dramatic.
No one posted on that thread for over a week....it was dead
Then right after the bears game the first post from a dead thread was "Do you think Jared goff is elite still"
Yeah I'll stick by what I posted.