(Poll) Who would you start this weekend? The Wolford/Goff Collection Thread

[Soul Surfer]

....please tell me what Goff has done for the Rams, lately.

Way to support the team, dude.

 

[dieterbrock]

We’ll not surprising how this little debate has gone within our little family here, same ole detractors who’ve been banging against Goff all year now are banging the table for Wolford to start vs Seattle after his inspiring lead to 3 FGs and a sub 70 passer rating, I like the kids grit don’t get me wrong but anyone believing he gives us a better option over starting Goff...well all I would say is careful what you ask for

And some of you need to stop with the excuses why we didn’t score TD’s vs AZ—or at least be fair about it

Yeah, Wolford scores 9, costs 7 but he's the answer at QB. Lol. Because of penalties, the Rams had a TD called back which would have won the Jets game, and a 1st down nullified that at worst would have tied it, but that doesnt matter, however Wolford gets credit because the Rams false start taking them away from the 1. Oh the inconsistency

 

[ProGen]

McVay has some serious stones if he plays Wolford over Goff, if Jared is ready to go.
We essentially have to move on from Goff at that point.

I have not been kind on Goff the last few years, but I would start him if he's healthy. I obviously can't be certain (no crystal ball here)...but I can't see how Wolford is remotely ready for the Seahawks in the playoffs...in Seattle. Thats a HUGE game for a young man that had never played a meaningful game until last week, and he did not score a TD (yes I know...O-Line issues, RZ issues, Everett drop etc).

What I'm hoping, is that Goff gets a fire lit under him now and he goes out there and proves his worth. A little competition is never a bad thing.

 

[dieterbrock]

If Wolford makes, let's say, 3 successful runs on 3rd and 6-10, that's min 6 - 10 minutes our D and Wilson are not on the field.
I am a huge Goff guy, but after what I saw Sunday, I keep going back to this.

And I know these players are wunderkinds, but I still don't believe that thumb heals in two weeks, even if JG doesn't fuck up, which he continues to do. That one int might/could decide what's going to be a close game Sunday.

Well, that's one way to look at it, but on the other hand Wilson isnt Streveler, and with a 7-0 lead wouldnt go 2.5 Q while making only 2 1st down...
I can tell you right now, if Wolford started at QB, those QB runs wont be there for him to take. They'll give him the middle of the field, but wont let him outside. Arizona D has been playing awful, Seattle D has been playing high level.

 

[ProGen]

Well, that's one way to look at it, but on the other hand Wilson isnt Streveler, and with a 7-0 lead wouldnt go 2.5 Q while making only 2 1st down...
I can tell you right now, if Wolford started at QB, those QB runs wont be there for him to take. They'll give him the middle of the field, but wont let him outside. Arizona D has been playing awful, Seattle D has been playing high level.

They have been lights out recently.

 

[RamFan503]

Because RB's initiate contact, are trained for it, and how to minimize punishing contact. They know how to get hit

Agreed.

Not only that but the shoulder pads on a RB are designed for punishment whereas a QBs are generally designed for mobility, passing, and vision. A QB running into defenders like Wolfie did, isn't likely to last long in the NFL. I loved the grit, but doing that on any kind of consistent basis would be a quick out in this league.

Another thing is that most RBs are running fire plugs. It's a completely different build that is simply more equipped for the position.

 

[baconandbread]

I think if healthy Goff is a no brainer to play and gives us the best chance to win. However Wolford showed enough to have confidence in playing him should Goff have one of his off games or hopefully enough to get him in on some designed bootleg plays.

 

[-X-]

Felt like McVay had discovered a shiny new toy, and he was absolutely loving the idea of creating new play designs to suit Wolford's strengths.

Obviously no way to substantiate this, but I agree anyway. McVay must be salivating over the idea of being able to create even MORE offensive plays that nobody has seen yet. How could he not be?

 

[BonifayRam]

I think the Rams should let Wolford play behind Goff again next year while Goff's contract is putting a strangle hold on the team's cap. After next year get rid of Goff, when the cap hit lessens, and let Wolford compete for the starting job.

Wow showing an extra-large pair of walnuts Ramstien with this post! Most here will not take you seriously as you see the laughs pop up but you are right on your thoughts on Goff's contract & the serious effect it places on this team being able to sign any UFA's this season or next & the Rams bench is lacking almost any talent coming up. Most here with blinders just do not see this. Never will.

Goff is the Rams QB for the future but the conversation on this season's Goff performance & the lack, IMO of current value to this team overall in what he brings to the field @ that unbelievably high cost is debatable anytime with me. While Aaron Donald, & Jalen Ramsey have proven to be worth those top-end contracts .......the immobile pocket passer with poor ball-handling abilities while under pressure Goff........... has failed @ this point to be worth the overall cost to maintain him.

Currently, I am hoping that Goff is seeing a UDFA rookie QB who plays for a few bits of $$ come in & win a game against the Cards who were fighting for a playoff spot, will get him back to what we saw in 2018. There is real true value for this Ram Org of having a QB like Wolford. One thing you get with Wolford is some running yardage & a half dozen first downs from him doing that. The first time we have seen that in a long long time! With the Rams lacking any kind of a real threat of a running game, the immobile Goff is sure to suffer more injuries as time goes on with McVay force to pass the ball almost every down.

 

[Ellard80]

Wolford reminds me of a Jeffery Michael Fisher player. He’ll win you possibly 7 games due to the play of the defense and a few field goal drives.

we really have no idea about wolford... he played one game so to make any conclusions is just a guess.

 

[Ellard80]

Yeah, Wolford scores 9, costs 7 but he's the answer at QB. Lol. Because of penalties, the Rams had a TD called back which would have won the Jets game, and a 1st down nullified that at worst would have tied it, but that doesnt matter, however Wolford gets credit because the Rams false start taking them away from the 1. Oh the inconsistency

Another false narrative - no one has ignored the previous misakes and costly penalties. Just because on varying levels some have been critical of goff doesn't mean people have not mentioned or ignored those occurences.

Also goff has started like 80 games and this guy has started 1 - the entire "if goff did this" series is a joke.

Not saying wolf is better than goff because he likely isn't - but that line of reasoning....

 

[PhillyRam]

Seattle is a very familiar team.
That is an advantage for us.

Same for them in regards to Goff. They will spend the week prepping for Wolford since they did Goff prep two weeks ago.

 

[PhillyRam]

Another false narrative - no one has ignored the previous misakes and costly penalties. Just because on varying levels some have been critical of goff doesn't mean people have not mentioned or ignored those occurences.

Also goff has started like 80 games and this guy has started 1 - the entire "if goff did this" series is a joke.

Not saying wolf is better than goff because he likely isn't - but that line of reasoning....

Yeah, but we are not comparing Goff, who has started 69 games, vs Wolford after 69 starts.

We are comparing an experienced Goff vs Wolford going into his 2nd start.

That matters. I know some want to use Wolford's 1st start as an excuse as if we are now deciding which QB will have a better career.

That is not the issue. The issue is who gives you the best chance to win a road playoff game this weekend.

 

[FrantikRam]

Wolford played QB better with zero touchdowns drives? Dude miss me with that bs. Wolford did just enough to win with a defense that came to play.

Why would it be held against Wolford that we had a fumble at the 1 by Akers and two false starts, along with the perfectly thrown dropped TD by Everett?

I'd say the same thing if it happened to Goff too btw. But those issues, along with Kupp not playing, were IMO worse than what Goff has had the past few weeks. And on Sunday, Wolford played QB better than Goff did against the Patriots, Jets or Seahawks.

Goff was better than Wolford against Arizona.

But understand - I am NOT saying Wolford is better than Goff. I'm saying he played better on Sunday than Goff has in the past few weeks. In the apples to apples comparison of Arizona, Goff was better.

My post was in response to being honest about QB play, has nothing to do with who I think is better (it's Goff).

The question McVay has to answer is whether Goff can get back to that Arizona game form. If he can and he's healthy, then who the QB is this week won't even be a conversation.

 

[Young Ram]

I said there would be a QB controversy and here we are. The truth of the matter is if Goff is healthy enough to play then he should play. If he isn’t effective in the first half then McVay can think about switching to Wolford in the second half.

Goff was throwing passes during pregame warm ups so that tells me he is itching to get back. Maybe this will light a fire under his ass and prove his worth.

 

[matt30]

If he isn’t effective in the first half then McVay can think about switching to Wolford in the second half.

I think whoever starts finishes the game. Regardless of level of play. They pack it in and call it a season if it's a loss.

 

[So Ram]

Yeah, but we are not comparing Goff, who has started 69 games, vs Wolford after 69 starts.

We are comparing an experienced Goff vs Wolford going into his 2nd start.

That matters. I know some want to use Wolford's 1st start as an excuse as if we are now deciding which QB will have a better career.

That is not the issue. The issue is who gives you the best chance to win a road playoff game this weekend.

Goff played with his broken thumb already in Seahag land.

Who will be THE RAMS starter Sunday?

My guess is JARED GOFF! He wants it & The Rams will have a hard time not allowing Goff to play.

 

[So Ram]

I think whoever starts finishes the game. Regardless of level of play. They pack it in and call it a season if it's a loss.

Well injury of play may be another way.

 

[PhillyRam]

If Wolford makes, let's say, 3 successful runs on 3rd and 6-10, that's min 6 - 10 minutes our D and Wilson are not on the field.
I am a huge Goff guy, but after what I saw Sunday, I keep going back to this.

And I know these players are wunderkinds, but I still don't believe that thumb heals in two weeks, even if JG doesn't fuck up, which he continues to do. That one int might/could decide what's going to be a close game Sunday.

Or Goff completes a pass on 3rd down... Same deal.

Rams were 9-19 converting 3rd downs in Seattle without a run game and a lot of 3rd & longs.

They were only 6 for 15 against the Cards with the running QB.

BTW, You think Jamal Adams might be assigned to spy Wolford? Me too...So I don't see him running all over Seattle.

If Healthy Goff plays... Simple as that.

 

[VegasRam]

Or Goff completes a pass on 3rd down... Same deal.

Rams were 9-19 converting 3rd downs in Seattle without a run game and a lot of 3rd & longs.

They were only 6 for 15 against the Cards with the running QB.

BTW, You think Jamal Adams might be assigned to spy Wolford? Me too...So I don't see him running all over Seattle.

If Healthy Goff plays... Simple as that.

Fair enough - but if Adams is spying, that helps our long ball game, which we currently do not have.
As I said, huge Goff fan. I just don't think it's a "pick a side and dig in" situation - it deserves some thought, but ONLY, I repeat, ONLY because of Goff's thumb.