(Poll) Who would you start this weekend? The Wolford/Goff Collection Thread

[Kevin]

I hope to god our coach doesn’t need to ask our players who he should start.. how weak would that look

Best reply ever!

 

[PhillyRam]

Oh, please tell me what Goff has done for the Rams, lately. You seem to come off like some sort of Goff apologist.

Four weeks ago he played a hell of a lot better against the same team Wolford just put up nine points against.

 

[Merlin]

Goff is the Rams QB for the future but the conversation on this season's Goff performance & the lack, IMO of current value to this team overall in what he brings to the field @ that unbelievably high cost is debatable anytime with me.

If you take a step back and look at the Rams' QB position what we need to do in this year's playoffs is determine if Goff is the guy going forward. Because the Rams paid him that big contract to lock him up. So he has to play when he's available to go. This is his moment IMO.

It's why he is going to start in this game, barring two possibilities those being that he's not full go medically or that McVay is down on him. But the thing is even if McVay is down on him the fact we're paying him starter money and this is the moment you pay a QB for will probably drive the decision anyway. So I'd say if his thumb is good it's damn near 100% Goff starts this game.

But from there is where things change however. This time around if he's not the good Goff I don't think McVay will hesitate to pull him. The difference is that McVay knows he's got another option to get that W at the QB position. As I keep saying that's a good thing if you're a fan of the team first.

 

[Mojo Ram]

I'll be disappointed if McV doesn't start Goff and spend all week implementing packages for Wolford ala Brees/T. Hill.

Clearly McV didn't nerf the playbook very much for Wolf which means he's comfortable with the guy, so it shouldn't be too difficult to do this.

The Brees/Hill thing is a luxury for Asshole Face, and Wolford proved(to me at least) that he can be trusted to come in and out in certain situations and give the defense something else to look at. Ride that horse. Use it.

There's no reason to create a QB controversy right now. Goff is the starter but Wolford needs to be used as well.

 

[…..]

Wolford start, leads several uninspiring drives that stall out for various reasons.

Middle of the 3rd quarter, Rams down 23-3 McVay throws the hook, pull Wolford and installs Goff who then rallies the Rams to a 24-23 win and the world returns to nomalcy. Goff has his confidence back, the fan base rejoices.

Huh, what? It could happen!

 

[Kevin]

Does anyone else see Wolford as Gardner Minshew 2.0?

 

[RamWoodie]

I think the Rams should let Wolford play behind Goff again next year while Goff's contract is putting a strangle hold on the team's cap. After next year get rid of Goff, when the cap hit lessens, and let Wolford compete for the starting job.

I like what you said until the part about getting rid of Goff. You don't do that without evaluation. No doubt Goff's play this year makes you scratch your head...but I don't think it goes that far. There's something we don't know...kinda like the Gurley departure.

I think you keep Wolford...but by no means do you trade Goff.

 

[Ramlock]

We have a backup QB that has won a game against a Tard team that quit in the 2nd half, but a win just the same.



Hip Hip Hooray

I have a hard time taking this seriously...I'm out

 

[Memphis Ram]

Ok, and who would that be?
Goff: 3 turnovers in last 4 games
Wolf: 1 turnover in 1 game

With Seattle weather, I'd say the one with bigger hands, healthy thumbs, who can escape pressure the best.

 

[Loyal]

With Seattle weather, I'd say the one with bigger hands, healthy thumbs, who can escape pressure the best.

So put you down for Goff? *check

 

[Merlin]

Axl put together a nice link with Wolford's plays all in one vid: https://www.kermanyf.com/rams.html

 

[madrid311]

I personally had no problem with Wolford fighting for the 1st down in that situation. It’s a must win game and a chance to punch your ticket. Also, he’s a backup with little tape to show what he can do. The fight he showed there and the ability to get the first down vs two defenders is going to fire up the team and also increase confidence in him.

If he’s your franchise QB and it’s not a do or die game I would discourage him from those Types of plays.

If he starts it

Wow showing an extra-large pair of walnuts Ramstien with this post! Most here will not take you seriously as you see the laughs pop up but you are right on your thoughts on Goff's contract & the serious effect it places on this team being able to sign any UFA's this season or next & the Rams bench is lacking almost any talent coming up. Most here with blinders just do not see this. Never will.

Goff is the Rams QB for the future but the conversation on this season's Goff performance & the lack, IMO of current value to this team overall in what he brings to the field @ that unbelievably high cost is debatable anytime with me. While Aaron Donald, & Jalen Ramsey have proven to be worth those top-end contracts .......the immobile pocket passer with poor ball-handling abilities while under pressure Goff........... has failed @ this point to be worth the overall cost to maintain him.

Currently, I am hoping that Goff is seeing a UDFA rookie QB who plays for a few bits of $$ come in & win a game against the Cards who were fighting for a playoff spot, will get him back to what we saw in 2018. There is real true value for this Ram Org of having a QB like Wolford. One thing you get with Wolford is some running yardage & a half dozen first downs from him doing that. The first time we have seen that in a long long time! With the Rams lacking any kind of a real threat of a running game, the immobile Goff is sure to suffer more injuries as time goes on with McVay force to pass the ball almost every down.

The play book sure opened up with Wolford. The eye test told me he gets mcvays system and can read defenses. He has good coaches, no reason he can't help the rams. Goff has had plenty of chances to put life in the team. He didn't impress ( win games) when called on. Why would now be any different?
Go with the known player that was good and might be good again or the go with the new player that could be a difference maker or could also be very bad. Tough choice. Go rams

 

[Merlin]

Some random thoughts for this offense IF Wolford goes vs Seattle:

TEs better be prepared to catch the ball. Goff reads past guys like Everett and even Higs if there's a DB on them but Wolford will put the ball up to them. It's a basic aggression in play style. Everett got exposed pretty badly in that last game but going to say maybe his pride is hurt and he'll be ready this next game who knows. Also Higs. He had a good game last Sunday but he's gonna get a ton of action if Wolford is in there, as he uses the big guys as his dumpoff option.

Wolford needs to quit leading with the head when he scrambles. He's feeling his oats and playing with his balls out and all that I get it. But one hit is all it takes just one to induce a concussion and end that particular feel good story. He suffered multiple vicious hits over the course of that game and if that continues he wouldn't finish the playoffs even if the Rams gave him the job. There's times for it. That last third down for example. But through the game he needs a little more self conservation IMO.

Jefferson didn't start particularly well. That pass he acted like was out of his range early on was him hearing footsteps. Well maybe seeing footsteps is a better description lol. And he's probably not ever going to be the guy who takes hits across the middle but with Kupp back Jefferson will be focused on his strength which will be outs and curls and quick sideline passes to get easy yards.

Lastly if Whit comes back and settles this line down what we could be seeing is a perfect storm for the Rams. Because we'd have the run game going which changes everything. The QB of course benefits greatly too. And it's gonna come down to our merry band of JAGs (Everett, Reynolds, etc) to help Woody and Kupp get it done in the passing game. If those things happen I really like our chances dudes even if we have a backup out there.

 

[madrid311]

Slightly hurting? We’re in week 18 in the NFL everyone’s everything is slightly hurting. You’re seriously suggesting we sit Goff for Wolford and bring Goff back in the 2nd half if we’re loosing? Why would we do that? Would the same Goff you sat now have a better chance to bring our team a comeback win? If that’s the case why wouldn’t we start him?

Sometimes players are better coming off the bench. It's not a bad idea. IMHO. Go rams

 

[OC_Ram]

I’d like to offer up the END of the Goff vs Wolf debate on who starts for hawks game. Jared cannot be 100% in 2 weeks, can he? Throwing thumb?McVay will NEVER tell you anything other than Goff not 100%. Wolf will get the start, you’ll rally behind him and like it. Are we good?

 

[Neil039]

we really have no idea about wolford... he played one game so to make any conclusions is just a guess.

No offense, my opinion is based off what I’ve watched of him. In the AAF, in college a few times, and now with the Rams. So being in my late 40’s, having played and tracked football since my early teens I’ll trust my opinion over your objection.

 

[OC--LeftCoast]

I’d like to offer up the END of the Goff vs Wolf debate on who starts for hawks game. Jared cannot be 100% in 2 weeks, can he? Throwing thumb?McVay will NEVER tell you anything other than Goff not 100%. Wolf will get the start, you’ll rally behind him and like it. Are we good?

I’m sure Pete Carroll is hoping you’re right

look, it won’t be impossible w/o Goff (he’s all time 5-4 vs Seattle including under Fisher) but If Wolford has to be the one, then we are going to have to have a lot of things go extraordinarily right

Either way, I’m in

 

[OC_Ram]

IMO, the Rams should start the QB least likely to turn the ball over.

Ouch, that’s confusing.

 

[Merlin]

I’m sure Pete Carroll is hoping you’re right

Actually I guarantee you Carroll prefers to see Goff. He's coming off surgery. He's the devil they know and the guy they have their best gameplan in place for. Of course he still has to prepare for Wolford too but point is I don't think Carroll prefers to see the backup in this situation.

 

[Ramlock]

Shit, I don’t know...Pete practices against a midget that runs around...Wolfie might not be a challenge