(Poll) Who would you start this weekend? The Wolford/Goff Collection Thread

[tempests]

I seem to recall in 2001 our dreams were dashed by a young QB (Brady) out of nowhere who replaced a former #1 pick (Bledsoe) during the season and they never looked back.

Brady at least had 14 starts in the regular season, months to practice and play with his teammates to prepare for the postseason. He wasn't a completely untested QB thrown into the fire at the end of the year. And by the way, the Pats weren't riding any "juice" that year. They were stealing other teams defensive signals and getting away with it.

Foles had to come in at the end of the season but he had previous starter and playoff experience, home field advantage throughout the playoffs and two bye weeks to prep during that Super Bowl run.

Despite the comparisons Wolford doesn't have any of the advantages that Brady and Foles did.

 

[dang]

The key in the decision is which QB gives you the best chance to get a halftime lead. That means control the clock (get first downs!!!!) and not turnover the ball. With a halftime lead the Rams under McVay are undefeated. Their defense is legit and can put the Vulcan death grip on any offense in the second half.

 

[FrantikRam]

So your counter is an apples to oranges comparison? How about how many points Goff put up against that same team on the road? Why are people so offended by honesty about Wolfords performance we can be honest with Goff but can't with Wolford it seems.

Because it's not honest.

Last week was the worst performance by the supporting cast all year.

Has Goff played this year without Kupp? No

Has a RB fumbled on the one yard line? No

Have back to back false starts taken Goff from the 1 to the 11 yard line? I think there may have been a hold that did that, but false starts are unforced errors

How did the run game do without Wolford? Possibly the worst all year. Was Wolford under pressure? Sure was.


Yes Goff played better against the Cardinals, but Wolford played QB better than Goff has in his last three games, and did so with less support.

That's being honest about the situation. Doesn't mean Wolford is better than Goff, but I do think it confirms that Goff has been playing poorly and that it wasn't just the OL or run game. You can see when a QB plays well in spite of those issues and the last few weeks Goff has not - again, I don't think Wolford is the better option unless Goff's thumb is still an issue - but he played better than Goff has in some time yesterday and that likely means Goff is in some kind of funk

 

[Giles]

Because it's not honest.

Last week was the worst performance by the supporting cast all year.

Has Goff played this year without Kupp? No

Has a RB fumbled on the one yard line? No

Have back to back false starts taken Goff from the 1 to the 11 yard line? I think there may have been a hold that did that, but false starts are unforced errors

How did the run game do without Wolford? Possibly the worst all year. Was Wolford under pressure? Sure was.


Yes Goff played better against the Cardinals, but Wolford played QB better than Goff has in his last three games, and did so with less support.

That's being honest about the situation. Doesn't mean Wolford is better than Goff, but I do think it confirms that Goff has been playing poorly and that it wasn't just the OL or run game. You can see when a QB plays well in spite of those issues and the last few weeks Goff has not - again, I don't think Wolford is the better option unless Goff's thumb is still an issue - but he played better than Goff has in some time yesterday and that likely means Goff is in some kind of funk

Wolford played QB better with zero touchdowns drives? Dude miss me with that bs. Wolford did just enough to win with a defense that came to play.

 

[So Ram]

I seem to recall in 2001 our dreams were dashed by a young QB (Brady) out of nowhere who replaced a former #1 pick (Bledsoe) during the season and they never looked back. Catching lightning in a bottle is a magical thing. Passion and energy are a huuge and often overlooked aspect in how well a football team plays. McVay and the rest of the players are completely juiced and you can tell how excited they are in the way they speak about Wolford. He’s a competitor and its rubbing off. I think you ride Wolford here and do it the way that 2001 Pats team did with Brady-lean on the defense and running game and take shots when they are there and use his legs for that added dimension. The defense is Super Bowl caliber and the offense is good enough IMO when healthy (Whitworth especially) if they limit turnovers and score TDs in the redzone. Control time of possession and take a lead at halftime where McVay is now 35-0 in his career. Put me in the start and ride Wolford camp. If Wolford plays miserably in the first half then bench him for Jared. Theres no way McVay starts Goff next week-mark my word

interesting,but Jared has to be that guy if Mcvay thinks he can do it.

 

[Faceplant]

Plachke has always gone for the shock value and likes making waves.
Yea, he is unreadable to me and always has been.

Nothing against you Faceplant. I've just never liked the guy. Ever.

I didn't like T.J. Simmers either.

I don't care for him either, just put it here for everyone's perusal. When I said he isn't a mini anything, I meant he is fat, lol...

 

[Loyal]

View: https://youtu.be/oPHghEOSlTY

 

[RamWoodie]

Here's the bottom line...Wolf didn't lose the game!!!

I didn't log in to ROD because I didn't want to read the negatives when things went wrong.

Wolford was composed...even after his first pass being an int. He really settled down in the 2nd half. The Rams will beat Seattle with either guy.

Whether Goff or Wolford starts it's gonna be better for both of them to have Kupp on the field.

Of course the chances of winning grow exponentially with Goff out there IF he's 80% or better.

It was obvious the OLine wasn't use to Wolford cadence, which led to false start penalties.

I think Goff starts. McVay is pulling Seattle's chain by not naming a starter. Both Goff and Wolford will be taking 1st team snaps all week.

 

[Ellard80]

Wolford played QB better with zero touchdowns drives? Dude miss me with that bs. Wolford did just enough to win with a defense that came to play.

Thats been the cast most of the year. It's silly to say wolf is better than goff... since he has played one nfl game and it was neither here nor there.

However the references to wolf not scoring is a bit unfair.

For one as the game developed it was clear we didn't need to even try to score that much they had a back up QB and were struggling.

But even more relevantly.

Two false starts at the one yard line
Akers fumbles at the one yard line
everett drops a pass in the endzone.

So i dont think wolf was spectactular by any means.... but saying he didn't score or what not is really misleading.

 

[Ramstien]

I think the Rams should let Wolford play behind Goff again next year while Goff's contract is putting a strangle hold on the team's cap. After next year get rid of Goff, when the cap hit lessens, and let Wolford compete for the starting job.

 

[dieterbrock]

Keep in mind that Wolford did not lead a scoring drive to put the Rams ahead of the Cards. The Defense put up 9 straight points after trailing 7-3. There was no pressure on Wolford to score points. In Arizona next 6 drives after the TD scored, they totalled only 75 yards and 2 first downs. Only 2 first downs allowed from the early part of the 1st Q until the 4th Q.
Arizona's D, which isnt all that great to begin with, was completely gassed (and visibly dejected) in the 2nd half, trying to make plays because the offense was so bad
We can applaud his effort all day long, and if he had to come in to a game I could see him adding a little excitement. But any talk of that performance being starting NFL caliber is just laughable. He's only starting if Goff cant grip the ball. Period

 

[Neil039]

Wolford reminds me of a Jeffery Michael Fisher player. He’ll win you possibly 7 games due to the play of the defense and a few field goal drives.

 

[VegasRam]

If Wolford makes, let's say, 3 successful runs on 3rd and 6-10, that's min 6 - 10 minutes our D and Wilson are not on the field.
I am a huge Goff guy, but after what I saw Sunday, I keep going back to this.

And I know these players are wunderkinds, but I still don't believe that thumb heals in two weeks, even if JG doesn't fuck up, which he continues to do. That one int might/could decide what's going to be a close game Sunday.

 

[nighttrain]

" I still don't believe that thumb heals in two weeks "
this^

train

 

[RamFan503]

Plachke has always gone for the shock value and likes making waves.
Yea, he is unreadable to me and always has been.

Nothing against you Faceplant. I've just never liked the guy. Ever.

I didn't like T.J. Simmers either.

I'm thinnin' he was making a fat reference.

 

[Ramstien]

We can applaud his effort all day long, and if he had to come in to a game I could see him adding a little excitement. But any talk of that performance being starting NFL caliber is just laughable. He's only starting if Goff cant grip the ball. Period

Oh, please tell me what Goff has done for the Rams, lately. You seem to come off like some sort of Goff apologist.

 

[iamme33]

on the debate about qbs taking hits i have never understood why a qb taking 2 or 3 hits a game will destroy their career but rb take far more hits and keep going. yes there are a lot of rbs that have short careers but than there are rbs like adrian peterson or frank gore that just keep going for long periods of time. almost seems like some players can handle hits better than others.

 

[dieterbrock]

Oh, please tell me what Goff has done for the Rams, lately. You seem to come off like some sort of Goff apologist.

Lol. You're funny.

 

[OC--LeftCoast]

We’ll not surprising how this debate has gone within our little family here, same ole detractors who’ve been banging against Goff all year now are banging the table for Wolford to start vs Seattle after his inspiring lead to 3 FGs and a sub 70 passer rating, vs a very poor defense. I like the kids grit don’t get me wrong but anyone believing he gives us a better option over starting Goff...well all I would say is careful what you ask for

And some of you need to stop with the excuses why we didn’t score TD’s vs AZ—or at least be fair about it

 

[dieterbrock]

on the debate about qbs taking hits i have never understood why a qb taking 2 or 3 hits a game will destroy their career but rb take far more hits and keep going. yes there are a lot of rbs that have short careers but than there are rbs like adrian peterson or frank gore that just keep going for long periods of time. almost seems like some players can handle hits better than others.

Because RB's initiate contact, are trained for it, and how to minimize punishing contact. They know how to get hit