(Poll) Who would you start this weekend? The Wolford/Goff Collection Thread

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Which QB are you starting?

  • The Wolf

  • Perkins

  • Bortles

  • Hekker the Wrecker

  • Case Keenum

  • Cam Akers

  • Dieter Brock


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Corbin

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I mean he knows how to make a YouTube video but this is just ludicrous.

As much as I have issues with Goff he gives us the best chance to win throughout the playoffs.

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And as he separates that shoulder and is out for a while maybe never throwing the ball right again ending his career those same team mates will say it was a great play but he's gotta be smarter than that if he wants to get paid. Sorry this is something everybody around here and around all teams say about running QB's taking hits. I'm not critical of the guy it's something every QB needs to learn plain and simple if you want to keep playing in the league.

How many times in GDT and such did we talk about running midgets like Murray and Wilson? Want to go back and count or just say it gets aid a lot that QB's need to be smart with those situations.
Oh for cripes sakes. You really think it’s “smart” for the QB to give up and play it safe with the WHOLE SEASON on the line? No, no, no.

McVay gave Wolford a game ball. You really think McVay wasn’t stoked when Wolford iced the game on that play?

Recall the circumstances. Rams up by 11 with 3:34 left. 3rd and 8 at their own 22 yard line. Cards out of timeouts. If the Rams fail to convert, Cards get the ball back with good field position and maybe enough time for two scores. But if Rams convert the 3rd down, it’s Game Over. Rams can just sit on the clock, and Cards get the ball back down 11 with 30 seconds or so.

Let me ask you, if it were the same exact circumstances in the Super Bowl (up by 11 with 3:34 left, etc.) would you really expect the Rams QB to slide and “play it safe” in this situation?

Maybe it wasn’t the Super Bowl, but it iced the Rams’ spot in the playoffs.
 

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They just played a team without a QB. A team that could not sustain a drive as the Rams defense kept handing the ball back to our offense.

Despite that, our offense put up 9 points. NINE!

That won't work against Russell Wilson. We need to be able to pass the ball consistently and sustain drives to keep Wilson off the field.

Preferably get up on them and make them abandon their ground game because whoever runs it the best will likely win.

So how does Wolford do when he falls behind and must air it out on predictable passing downs?

That is the concern for such an inexperienced QB... Not his fault, just the facts.

If Goff is 85-90% and can take center snaps, you have to start him.

Doesn't matter if its Goff or Wolford, Shitty Oline and Receivers dropping passes will result in a loss. Whoever starts needs a lot more help than Wolford got yesterday.
 

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I doubt we will know who starts until game time.
McVay should play this until Saturday.
I'm sure Seattle wants to know who is starting.
 

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I doubt we will know who starts until game time.
McVay should play this until Saturday.
I'm sure Seattle wants to know who is starting.

yeah i said this in one of the threads... they likely will keep it up in the air until the last minute.
 

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I doubt we will know who starts until game time.
McVay should play this until Saturday.
I'm sure Seattle wants to know who is starting.
Interesting thing to me is... McVay must have made his decision already.

With a Saturday game, they’ve got one less day to prepare. And the strategy and game plans are probably completely different depending on the QB, since their styles are so different.

So McVay has already made his decision, but we’ll all have to wait until game day to find out...
 

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There were a few things Wolford showed me and this was a huge one. He's a competitor. It wasn't just the decision to take on 2 defenders and lower his shoulder knowing the game was on the line, but it was how he got up and celebrated after the play. He's got some swag to him thats for sure. Funny how this type of play happed just a few weeks after Goff decided to slide short of a 1st down instead of lower his shoulder to try and win a game.

Wolford's accuracy wasn't great and who knows if that will improve, but what I really liked was how he attacked down the field. The dink and dunk offense disappeared all of a sudden. He completed 3 balls 20+ yards in the air and missed another 3-4 by less than a foot. This is with no running game at all, no Whit, and no Kupp. First player in NFL history to throw for 200+ and run for 50+ in his first start. In weeks 11-16 Goff only completed one pass of 20+ yards in the air.

But above all else, what really stood out to me was Wolford in his post game interview when you listen to him. He was asked a question regarding a decision he made, and he talked about getting a 2-man look on one play, cover 4 on another, and how he was trying to manipulate defenders with his eyes. Telling the reporter what his thought process was on those plays, and what he saw in the defense. This is after the kids first start ever as a pro. I've listened to every single Goff interview for the past 5 years and I can't remember hearing him talk about things like that...How he was trying to manipulate coverage with his eyes, why he made a certain decision or throw based on the look he got. I'm not saying Goff doesn't do these things, but for Wolford it was an instant answer to the reporters question. To me it showed his mind and ability to process what the defense was doing. And watching the game it was easy to notice how often he went through 3-4 progressions and came across the field with his eyes. I didn't see locking onto a first read very often. To me it showed a great mental capacity for quarterbacking. Something I think a lot of us have questioned with Goff over the years.

Goff has clearly better arm talent and the experience advantage, but Wolford has the athleticism and might have a better mind for the NFL. People want to highlight the 9 points, but if Akers doesn't fumble on the 2, we don't get 2 consecutive false starts inside the 5, and if Everett catches the perfectly thrown fade we score another 14-21 easy.
Nice post. After that INT he played like a vet QB. He sees the field well. He reads quick. And he weathers the rush real well. His ball floats a bit which scares me on the longer throws but either way this is a really nice development for the Rams.
 

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Nice post. After that INT he played like a vet QB. He sees the field well. He reads quick. And he weathers the rush real well. His ball floats a bit which scares me on the longer throws but either way this is a really nice development for the Rams.
It's very nice to know we have a backup QB that can come in an emergency and help us win a game
 

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Interesting thing to me is... McVay must have made his decision already.

With a Saturday game, they’ve got one less day to prepare. And the strategy and game plans are probably completely different depending on the QB, since their styles are so different.

So McVay has already made his decision, but we’ll all have to wait until game day to find out...
Seattle is a very familiar team.
That is an advantage for us.
 

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I personally had no problem with Wolford fighting for the 1st down in that situation. It’s a must win game and a chance to punch your ticket. Also, he’s a backup with little tape to show what he can do. The fight he showed there and the ability to get the first down vs two defenders is going to fire up the team and also increase confidence in him.

If he’s your franchise QB and it’s not a do or die game I would discourage him from those Types of plays.
 

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I doubt we will know who starts until game time.
McVay should play this until Saturday.
I'm sure Seattle wants to know who is starting.

I was thinking this too. Make them prepare for the read option and other plays and keep them guessing until the day of.

Indicator will be first team reps throughout the week and I wonder if our beat writers will leak anything on that front. Hard to imagine Wolford getting first team reps all week and then McVay starting Goff on Saturday. I read Goff was throwing pre game yesterday so who knows at this point.
 

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I was thinking this too. Make them prepare for the read option and other plays and keep them guessing until the day of.

Indicator will be first team reps throughout the week and I wonder if our beat writers will leak anything on that front. Hard to imagine Wolford getting first team reps all week and then McVay starting Goff on Saturday. I read Goff was throwing pre game yesterday so who knows at this point.
Knowing Seattle well, gives us the upper hand. Goff knows the playback in and out.
Let Wolford take most the starting reps
 

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He's not a mini anything....
Plachke has always gone for the shock value and likes making waves.
Yea, he is unreadable to me and always has been.

Nothing against you Faceplant. I've just never liked the guy. Ever.

I didn't like T.J. Simmers either.
 

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Oh for cripes sakes. You really think it’s “smart” for the QB to give up and play it safe with the WHOLE SEASON on the line? No, no, no.

McVay gave Wolford a game ball. You really think McVay wasn’t stoked when Wolford iced the game on that play?

Recall the circumstances. Rams up by 11 with 3:34 left. 3rd and 8 at their own 22 yard line. Cards out of timeouts. If the Rams fail to convert, Cards get the ball back with good field position and maybe enough time for two scores. But if Rams convert the 3rd down, it’s Game Over. Rams can just sit on the clock, and Cards get the ball back down 11 with 30 seconds or so.

Let me ask you, if it were the same exact circumstances in the Super Bowl (up by 11 with 3:34 left, etc.) would you really expect the Rams QB to slide and “play it safe” in this situation?

Maybe it wasn’t the Super Bowl, but it iced the Rams’ spot in the playoffs.
Forget it not worth it at all I'm done you really don't even want to acknowledge what I'm saying. Have a great night.
 

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Rams(da) Rams(da) Rams(da) Time. The Lambs(da)'s left when Fisher was cordially dismissed. I'm cool with Goff (full clearance only on the thumb), if not let's fucking rock it with The WereWOLF of LA!
 

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Forget it not worth it at all I'm done you really don't even want to acknowledge what I'm saying. Have a great night.
I get what you were saying, maybe we were just talking past each other a bit.

Yeah, generally speaking, if a QB is gonna run a lot AND seek out contact, he’s asking for an injury-prone, short career. Carson Wentz is a prime example.

I just took issue with your assessment of that one PARTICULAR play.

But yeah, generally speaking, if Wolford took a lot of hits like that he wouldn’t last long in the NFL.

Cheers.
 

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I seem to recall in 2001 our dreams were dashed by a young QB (Brady) out of nowhere who replaced a former #1 pick (Bledsoe) during the season and they never looked back. Catching lightning in a bottle is a magical thing. Passion and energy are a huuge and often overlooked aspect in how well a football team plays. McVay and the rest of the players are completely juiced and you can tell how excited they are in the way they speak about Wolford. He’s a competitor and its rubbing off. I think you ride Wolford here and do it the way that 2001 Pats team did with Brady-lean on the defense and running game and take shots when they are there and use his legs for that added dimension. The defense is Super Bowl caliber and the offense is good enough IMO when healthy (Whitworth especially) if they limit turnovers and score TDs in the redzone. Control time of possession and take a lead at halftime where McVay is now 35-0 in his career. Put me in the start and ride Wolford camp. If Wolford plays miserably in the first half then bench him for Jared. Theres no way McVay starts Goff next week-mark my word