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Jamal Adams says his playful hit sent Patriots mascot to the hospital
Posted by Darin Gantt on January 24, 2019

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Jets safety Jamal Adams wants to deliver big hits to Patriots.

But he said his attempt to add some levity to the Pro Bowl skills challenge went awry, which his tackle on the Patriots mascot sent the person inside the suit to the hospital.

“He [the mascot] was running around and everybody was booing him, so I said, ‘You know what? Let me go tackle him,’ Adams said, via Michael DiRocco of ESPN.com. “I didn’t hit him that hard, man. All jokes aside, I didn’t hit him that hard. I don’t know what’s really going on, but they did tell me he’s in the hospital. My intention was never to hurt him. it was all about just a joke but I definitely want to check on him and make sure everything is good. At the end of the day we were out here just having fun and it wasn’t nothing intentionally to try to hurt the guy.”

He tweeted out the footage yesterday, and it was a solid shot that appeared to take the poor mascot by surprise.

Adams said the league wasn’t happy with him, but there hasn’t been any official word from the league about that person’s condition.


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Dude from https://www.patsfans.com/new-englan...ms-superbowl-pre-game-analysis.1147118/page-4
They are not the same offense without Cooper Kupp.

Goff is not the same QB without Kupp.

With Cupp and KC game (which was the first one he missed) 35 ppg.

After Kupp & KC: 24ppg

Goff w/ Kupp + KC game= 68% comp, 322ypg, 113 rating, 2.4TDs, .5INT per game
Goff after KC no Kupp= 59% 232ypg, 76.08 rating, 1TD, 1INT per game.

"MIKE, GOFF SUCKS AND HE BLOWS WITHOUT COOPER KUPP"

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What type of dipshit analysis is this? Kupp didn't play against KC. If the argument is that Goff isn't the same QB without Kupp, you can't take out the KC game. It's pretty clear Admiral Asshat is trying to cherry-pick.

This is hilarious. How about we try this top-notch analysis:

"If you take away all the good plays Goff made this season, his stats indicate he is not a QB that should worry us."

Super info, bro!
 

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Rams are one of those teams that try to buy a SB (Cooks, Talib, Peters, Suh). Umm two of those players were on past Patriots team and the Patriots didn't draft either. You would think Pats fans knew there own team.

It’s a very unintelligent point people try to make. Especially in sports with a salary cap. Besides, several Rams disagree.

Including:

Goff, Gurley, Aaron Donald, Michael Brockers, Dante Fowler (courtesy of Jamon Brown), John Johnson, Lamarcus Joyner, Havenstein, Saffold, Blythe, Higbee, Everett, Kupp, Reynolds, Littleton, Franklin-Myers, Ebukam, Zuerlein, Hekker, McQuaide

...that’s just to name a few since I don’t wanna go through the whole damn roster.

But hey, if you’re mad because we got a our LT and DBs by making moves, you might wanna look at your own LT and DBs. (Trent Brown from the Niners, Gilmore from Buffalo and McCourty from Tennessee). And how about Shelton, Clayborn, Allen, Hogan...and that’s just off the top of my head.

Next...
 

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My coworker: I think Aaron Donald is overrated. I think that he's a product of his environment. I never even heard of him until last year.

Me: :palm:
 

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Product of his environment? Not even sure what that means.
I didn't either. He said " because opposing team's fall behind and have to pass so Donald can just rush the passer." Obviously a baseless, "casual observer" statement. I honestly don't think he's watched Donald play. He will next sunday.
 

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I didn't either. He said " because opposing team's fall behind and have to pass so Donald can just rush the passer." Obviously a baseless, "casual observer" statement. I honestly don't think he's watched Donald play. He will next sunday.
Especially when we had lots of close games.
 

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2019 Super Bowl predictions: Patriots given a 53% chance to beat the Rams
New England is seen as a slight favorite on Super Sunday.
By Bernd Buchmasser

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Winslow Townson-USA TODAY Sports

When the NFL’s championship weekend came to an end with the New England Patriots defeating the Kansas City Chiefs in the AFC title game, the Los Angeles Rams — winners of the NFC — were initially seen as slight favorites to win the Super Bowl. However, the line has shifted since then: while the Rams originally were 1-point favorites, they are now 3-point underdogs against the Patriots.

The oddsmakers are not the only ones to project a New England victory in Super Bowl 53. According to the projections models created by FiveThirtyEight.com, Bill Belichick’s team is also a statistical favorite to come away victoriously on Super Sunday:

New England Patriots: 53% win probability
Los Angeles Rams: 47% win probability

Both the Patriots and the Rams had to go into overtime to defeat their opponents on Sunday, and with neither team standing out it is unsurprising that the odds are this close. New England still holds a slight edge, though, most likely due to a variety of factors: from experience on the game’s biggest stage, to a more balanced split between offense and defense, to simply looking a tad more impressive in the playoffs so far.

That all being said, the game will not be decided by the numbers but rather by preparation and execution — something FiveThiryEight found out multiple times this postseason: on wild card weekend, its projections went just 1-3 before rebounding with a perfect 4-0 score one week later. In the championship round, however, both underdogs won their games to also win their conferences and advance to the Super Bowl.

As the old adage goes “any given Sunday” will be on display again, something the Patriots more than likely are aware of. After all, both they and the Rams won last week despite being seen as underdogs by the oddsmakers and the statisticians. And frankly, beating the odds is at the very foundation of New England’s dynastic run — one that might add another trophy if the Patriots can prevent an upset from happening.
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Sweet!
This means that if we played the Rams 100 times, we’d likely win 53 to their 47. So in order to guarantee victory, we just need the NFL to make the Superbowl a 100-game series instead of the statistically unrepresentative one-off contest it currently is. And also we need to hope that the model is perfectly accurate predictively, which I’m sure is always true because all those numbers and formulas just ooze reliability and accuracy.
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Actually, that's just a point estimator
Assuming we have a 53% chance of winning each game against the Rams, there’s no way to "guarantee" victory, but if we want to be 95% confident of winning 51% or more of the games in a series (typical confidence level used in statistics), we’d need to play about 2395 games. Then our p-value would be slightly less than .05 and we could be 95% confident we would beat the Rams in a series
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Not true, because as long as Slater is calling the flip, we have a 66% chance of hitting the 53% before LA does
unless Gronk is playing, then it’s 69%
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The place: Atlanta
The mission: SB 53
The objective: Silence Of The Rams
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I believe that the Patriots will beat the Rams in the Super Bowl.
Some people are saying that is the weakest team that they had in the Super Bowl.

Yeah…They went into the playoffs as a 11-5 regular season team, but I think it’s the healthiest team that they have had going into the playoffs.

The offensive line is strong, and the defense is playing aggressive.

In TB12, I trust.

He will get his 6th ring.

He’s got the weapons to do it. …..especially Edelman and Gronk

I think Dorsett needs to be thrown to more though.

I really like the 3 running back combo of Michel, Burkhead, and White

well…there is also Patterson who I like better as a running back than a wide receiver
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We should temper things...a bit
Who the hell really thought the Eagles, with a backup QB, would really beat us last year.
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On top of that,
Aaron Donald scares me. Lol
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He doesn't scare me.
The Patriots offensive line can handle him.
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The Rams actually are a similar team to those Eagles in a lot of ways
Disruptive DL, excellent OL, varied/deep offensive attack, weaknesses at linebacker and DB for Brady to exploit. Goff kinda looks like Foles’s younger brother.

The key is we can’t let their OL and skill position players bully our defense like the Eagles did last year.

I’m not sure even our improved DL can win that matchup overall, but I have faith in our secondary against their receivers.
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What??
Statistically the Rams shouldn’t even be in the SB!
 

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Some of them make good points but it shows that they did not really pay attention to the way the Rams played in the playoffs.
They keep mentioning things from the regular season. No one who would have paid attention to the Cowboys and Saints game would see our run defense as weak.
Unfortunately Belichick paid a lot of attention, I'm scared of him, but they should be scared of McVay too.
Rams in the SB man...
 

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The same arrogant disgusting toxic fandom of anybody we've played. They aren't clueless about Goff. They really want him to be bad so they can feel better about their team. Saints fans and Cowboys fans literally did the same thing.

Its wishful thinking at this point. Even if he shredded their defense they'd just talk about how great McVay's system is. Those insults aren't about Goff; they are to mask their own insecurity about us having a chance to upset them.

Like a bully who puts down others to make themselves feel better. Case and point? People talked all day about Goff's numbers after the bi week. But ignore, and sing the praises of Brees who was equally just as average.

I thought they'd be more empathetic given how much negative is spread about Brady; but they are just as arrogant of a fan base as anyone else we've played. Very disappointed. It's no wonder why everyone hates them and the Cowboys.

How soon we forget Goff was royally f*cking defenses for majority of the NFL season. Even outplayed the media darling Patrick Mahommes. I'm done with all this talking. I can't wait till next week.
 

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How good is the Rams offense right now?

We all know that since Kupp has left the Rams offense has struggled somewhat. But how much has the offense struggled? Looking at the overall PPG numbers not much, though it has been inconsistent. So I decided to look a bit deeper.

The Rams since Kupp went to IR have scored 54 vs KC, 30 @ Det, 6 @ Chi, 23 vs Phil, 31 @ AZ, 48 vs SF, 30 vs Dal and 23 @ NO. This all works out to about 30.6PPG. Not much lower than their season average. My question is why does it look so much worse and drop so little? The answer is simple. These numbers are massively inflated for a number of reasons.

KC 54 points? Not exactly. They had 2 defensive TDs and 1 ball at the 50 yard line. The real offensive production was anywhere between 40-37 points.

@Det 30 points? Not exactly. They had 3 recovery's at the 45, 40 and 24 respectively. The real offensive production could be argued between 27-21 points.

@Chi 6 points? Not exactly. They recovered a ball at the 15. The real offensive production could be argued to be 3 points.

Phil 23 points? Probably. They recovered a ball 51 yards from the goal. I don't like to assume anything about balls recovered on your side of the field. 23 points but maybe 20.

@AZ 31 points? You bet. They caught no breaks in this game. It was all earned without any particularly short fields or defensive scores. 31 points

SF 48 points? Nope. They had 1 defensive TD. They also had balls recovered at the 7 and 9 yard lines as well as one ball 52 yards from the goal. It's my opinion if you get 2 balls inside the 10 that should be counted for AT LEAST 10 points but 2 TDs shouldn't be a forgone conclusion. The ball 52 yards from the goal line is a nice side not but I won't count it. The real offensive production could be argued to be 41-27 points

I will sum up to say Dallas and NO were all earned points at 30 and 23 respectively in regulation. I don't think it's fair to count over time points for the Rams as I didn't count them for the Pats when doing a similar break down.

Of the 245 points scored in these 8 games, how many were caused by good offense and how many by the Defense or breaks? At the least you can take 21 points off and knock it down to 224 points (28 PPG) but that would be a bit dishonest to represent what happened here. I would argue the offense of the Rams since losing Kupp should be credited with these amounts.

40 KC, 21 Det, 3 Chi, 23 Phil, 31 AZ, 31 SF, 30 Dal, 23 NO to get an estimate of what their typical offensive production will be in regulation. That totals out to 202 total points or about 25PPG.

Again this is an opinion based amount trying to figure out what a number of offensive possessions on short fields should be worth. Simply put, it is highly likely that if we play a clean game we can keep them somewhere around 21-28 points. This offense is good but not explosive. I think the numbers speak for themselves on that matter.
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Seriously, this is great analysis but what you're telling us is the Rams Defense is really good. Good enough to help their offense score points on a short field or through turnovers. They're points none the less and the Pats will have to score more in two Sundays if they want to win.
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I did a quick look and found these kind of situations were outside the norm for the Rams.

During the other 10 games they scored 1 defensive TD. During these 8 they scored 3. Also the amount and location of turnovers or short fields was highly elevated during this streak compared to the other 10 games.

It wasn't their MO all season like Jax last year. It was more of a statistical aberration. Admittedly the Rams first 3 games looked a bit like this but a lot of that can be called sloppy early season football.
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Why do you feel its a streak and a statistical aberation and not simply a team playing really good defense right now? To me the game comes down to whether the Pats can stop the Rams zone blocking run scheme, something they've had trouble with in the past especially when Denver ran it. And whether the Rams stop the Pats play action cat and mouse game that's been absolutely lethal lately.
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Because when the Rams played good teams recently in the playoffs they weren't given any easy points or spots with the ball. Dallas and NO both were able to play clean games and make them drive most of the length of the field. That's what you would expect from a playoff team.

To not make the key mistake to give you opponent easy points. Those kind of things have more do to with the other team than your team in a lot of situations. Also, this isn't saying the Rams aren't playing good D or that forcing turnovers has nothing to do with your defense. But to say it is something they can depend on regardless of how the other offense plays isn't true either.

I think we saw those kind of plays dry up for LA in the playoffs because of the caliber and style of offenses other teams played against them. The Patriots clearly have the ability to do the same thing. They have been one of the safer teams with the ball all year.

We had 18 give aways in the regular season; Dallas had 17 and NO had 16. We are one of the safer teams with the ball. The fact that similarly safe teams like Dallas and NO could avoid costly mistakes against them bodes well for our chances.
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The Patriots need to copy the Packers Defensive Game plan against the Rams. The Pack lost because of some dumb penalties by their players. But they had Goff and that Offense off balance all game. Packer CB's really played their WR's tight and the Rams were uncomfortable for most of the game. IF Gilmore takes away Cooks the rest of our D can deal with the rest.

Their Offense is not as Potent as KC's probably a notch or Two below but Mahomes is better than Goff and Watkins/Hill is better than Cooks/Woods. We Stopped the #1 Offense for a Half and if we play a similar Half against the Rams minus our mistakes in the SB the game could be over by Half Time.
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Not a big fan of these sites but football outsiders seems to think the Pats D is ideally suited to stop this Rams O:

Film Room: Goff vs. Patriots | Football Outsiders
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Gilmore on Cooks, in man, would not be not my first choice. When you match a tall CB with a short WR the receiver has an advantage getting in and out of cuts. Just my opinion.
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I don't think Gilmore will on Cooks for the majority of the time. I think Gilmore will spend more time on woods and we will double Cooks with a CB and Safety like how we defended Hill. BB will not let Cooks beat us one on one.

I think BB will want to try to move Goff off his spot so I think we will see more overload blitz from either side, pushing him to the left side more.
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Cooks is not the Wiggle type like Edelman he's still kinda Straight line-ish. But I get it we can play Two deep and Double Cooks with Jackson and a Safety and keep Gilmore on Woods. That's taking away two options right there.
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The thing that scares me the most about this Rams offense is not any individual player. It's the heavy usage of play action pass.
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This looks like the kind of game where the no name TE can hurt the Pats on third downs i.e. guys like Dennis Pitta, Dustin Keller and Owen Daniels come to mind...for the simple reason that the Pats will do a good job on Cooks and Woods so it'll be the TE and Reynolds who get less attention.
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The Patriots constantly seemed to bite super hard on play fakes like a bunch of dopes earlier in the season, but really cleaned it up down the stretch. So I'm cautiously optimistic there.

And the Rams look nowhere near as able to make a big play out of nothing as the Chiefs were.
 

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I have to hear this crap all week. Does it really need to be here too!! Please delete this thread lol
 

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You can tell how successful a sports franchise has been throughout the years by how dumb their fanbase is.


Cowboys are the exception. They suck and their fans are dumb, too.
 

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That's it, ignore the defensive stops and takeaways Fact remains the Rams were the 2nd highest scoring team in the NFL and you have to include what the defense contributes.