What does "all-in" mean this time?

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The first time around, the Rams threw EVERYTHING at getting the roster to critical mass to win a SB, including a massive amount of draft capital. They had to, they desperately needed difference-makers like Stafford, Ramsey and Miller. This time? They *have* difference-makers on the roster, imo.. in Stafford, Verse and Puka. Their biggest issues are obvious, Corner and overall Special Teams.

I would argue that the "all-in" this time should be more on the financial end.. targeting FAs, especially one prime Corner. I would also consider going after Rasheed Shaheed.. overpriced.. but a perfect fit for this team's needs.

Do not use draft capital in trades unless there's a ridiculous value to be had and they should be looking to bolster the roster's overall talent and depth with the draft and be looking at the longterm as much as the immediate. My plan going into the draft would be using one of the firsts, but trading back with the other with the goal of having at least 6 picks in the first 4 rounds. WR, CB, and OT being the top priorities.. but then S and ILB and Edge. If they draft as well as recent years.. wow.

They've put themselves in the position to push the 2026 roster over the top.. while not sacrificing the future of the team.

Two moves.. converting Davante Adams and releasing Darious Williams.. puts them up to 71 million in space. I assume AT LEAST 10 mil of that goes to a raise for Stafford.. but that leaves A TON of money for some immediate roster help. Both in high-end spots like the two I mentioned.. but also for bargain hunting for those vets who can come in and offer quality depth.
 
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I think you're right. They need less additions to be all in this time and they have the cap to do it without sacrificing picks. Hopefully all in means aggressively upgrading the entire secondary with capable vets and adding more fire power and depth on offense through the draft.
 
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Honestly?

We need to bring in four new and good corners (two from the draft, one free agent and resign McCreary or Durant); two wide receivers, one of which who can return kicks; one inside linebacker; a safety (draft, free agent or resign Curl); and I think we still need an upgrade at center.

This is all relatively reasonable, without any huge moves.

I do think we have 'too many' draft picks right now - we really only have room for five or six rookies tops, so I suspect we'll be trading up more than down in the draft.
 
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"All-in" may mean packaging picks to move up for a Tate, Tyson or Reese. It may mean packaging picks and players to get a Max Crosby. It may mean investing some FA $$ into a Shaheed or Pierce (my preference).
I can't wait to find out :sunglasses:
 
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Pupped said:
The first time around, the Rams threw EVERYTHING at getting the roster to critical mass to win a SB, including a massive amount of draft capital. They had to, they desperately needed difference-makers like Stafford, Ramsey and Miller. This time? They *have* difference-makers on the roster, imo.. in Stafford, Verse and Puka. Their biggest issues are obvious, Corner and overall Special Teams.

I would argue that the "all-in" this time should be more on the financial end.. targeting FAs, especially one prime Corner. I would also consider going after Rasheed Shaheed.. overpriced.. but a perfect fit for this team's needs.

Do not use draft capital in trades unless there's a ridiculous value to be had and they should be looking to bolster the roster's overall talent and depth with the draft and be looking at the longterm as much as the immediate. My plan going into the draft would be using one of the firsts, but trading back with the other with the goal of having at least 6 picks in the first 4 rounds. WR, CB, and OT being the top priorities.. but then S and ILB and Edge. If they draft as well as recent years.. wow.

They've put themselves in the position to push the 2026 roster over the top.. while not sacrificing the future of the team.

Two moves.. converting Davante Adams and releasing Darious Williams.. puts them up to 71 million in space. I assume AT LEAST 10 mil of that goes to a raise for Stafford.. but that leaves A TON of money for some immediate roster help. Both in high-end spots like the two I mentioned.. but also for bargain hunting for those vets who can come in and offer quality depth.
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I mostly see it the same way with some disagreement.

We have two true difference makers on the team. Stafford and Puka. Verse didn't take that leap to being a game breaker. They could use a real game breaker on defense but will be fine if they continue to roll with a lot of good players.

The only way I see them trading draft picks for established players is if they're trading for a difference maker. Like a Crosby or Trent McDuffie. Other than that, keep the draft picks.

I agree that all-in this time should be on the financial side. They can use the credit card a bit to sign players and back date the contracts because it's likely they have an inexpensive QB on a rookie contract in a few years.

I'd leave Adams' contract alone. They have space even with his large cap hit. Instead, they should restructure or extend AJ if they need more space.

I'd target Jamel Dean and Radhid Shaheed in free agency.

And then draft like they've been drafting.
 
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DzRams said:
I mostly see it the same way with some disagreement.

We have two true difference makers on the team. Stafford and Puka. Verse didn't take that leap to being a game breaker. They could use a real game breaker on defense but will be fine if they continue to roll with a lot of good players.

The only way I see them trading draft picks for established players is if they're trading for a difference maker. Like a Crosby or Trent McDuffie. Other than that, keep the draft picks.

I agree that all-in this time should be on the financial side. They can use the credit card a bit to sign players and back date the contracts because it's likely they have an inexpensive QB on a rookie contract in a few years.

I'd leave Adams' contract alone. They have space even with his large cap hit. Instead, they should restructure or extend AJ if they need more space.

I'd target Jamel Dean and Radhid Shaheed in free agency.

And then draft like they've been drafting.
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Verse not being a "difference maker" is a fair-enough take. His pressure numbers would suggest more sacks.. but it hasn't happened yet.
We'll see if he can make a step.
 
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Im really hoping for quality over quantity additions. THE 2022 fallout rebuild is long over.

I think our more conservative draftniks are going to squirm in their seat this year.
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I can honestly see both directions having really good arguments.
 
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all in to me indicates that some kind of trade or trades occurred.

or possibly some big free agents = but i dont really see many out thee.
 
André said:
Honestly?

We need to bring in four new and good corners (two from the draft, one free agent and resign McCreary or Durant); two wide receivers, one of which who can return kicks; one inside linebacker; a safety (draft, free agent or resign Curl); and I think we still need an upgrade at center.

This is all relatively reasonable, without any huge moves.

I do think we have 'too many' draft picks right now - we really only have room for five or six rookies tops, so I suspect we'll be trading up more than down in the draft.
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That is spot on in terms of how many picks. We are not sticking around to wait and see who is available in the 200s. If they have a chance to make the team then we will trade up for them. This roster is stacked!

I am down at how close we were, again, but even more so!
 
This Super Bowl and the Seahawks D will influence the draft. I would be surprised if Delane is there at pick 13. If McCoy checks out health wise, he probably won't either. Teams will be looking for elite CBs.
 
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We have invested a lot of time into Whittington, Mumpfield and X. Smith and all three are cheap and have been productive. I know Smith is going to be dead to a lot of people - dude had 18/303 yards this year in limited opportunities. He's going to be back given how cheap he is.

I think the 6th WR spot - or really, the 3rd - will be addressed.

The pass rush was consistently just 'good', which is almost never good enough to win a Super Bowl. The Seahawks were the lone exception, but they played two playoff games against teams who frankly, weren't all that good, and then we torched their defense. They got lucky. I think edge could be upgraded.

Two CB spots are the two biggest upgrades needed.



Now I want to stop here for a second because I think people are going to be disappointed by what we actually do. IMO, the above four upgrades (assuming they are hits), we will rip through the league.

After those four, as potential additional needs:

Safety - I think people will be a bit disappointed here. Because I doubt we re-sign Curl, and given Kinchens is a good center fielder, I think Tank McCollough gets the nod. We spent the last two years developing him. I do think a safety will be drafted, but likely in the 3rd round or later, unless Caleb Downs somehow falls to 13.

OL depth - emphasis on the word depth here. The starting five is set, and it should be. Thankfully we've now been able to develop both Limmer and Dedich for depth, which really just leaves a need for a swing tackle.

Punter - unless we're saying that the ST coach was somehow making Evans kick shorter punts with little hangtime, I've seen enough here. I am tired of seeing other teams punt from their own 10 and the other team calling fair catch at the 35.

ILB - it is possible that McVay wants an upgrade here....but we are set with Landman/Speights/Dolac - I think there will be a late pick for special teams here, but that will be it.



Notes:

I have WR HIGH because both Adams (age) and Puka are injury risks, and while I like the depth we have, for us to make a run we should be prepared to lose one of them for an extended period of time. Plus, Adams is older and not a long term solution, AND we are about to pay Puka $40 million - all signs point to getting a young, talented, cheap starting caliber player here (likely one of our first rounders if we don't make any crazy trades).

CB x2 needs no discussion.

Pass rush is probably going to be divisive - but I don't think we can go get a top of the market CB. Byron Young and a pick could get us Maxx Crosby. TJ Watt may be able to be had. I doubt the Browns trade Garrett, but he could force his way out.


S and LB - there are a few different ways to skin a cat, and if we get an elite S or coverage LB, it will reduce the dependency on that second CB spot. But based on who is on the roster, I see multiple CBs coming in, while for S and LB, probably a focus on special teams and depth for us to develop.

OL - just for depth and develop.



I would prioritize one CB spot and WR in round one and two. Sign or trade for a CB and Edge rusher.

The other 8-9 picks will be used for depth and special teams.
 
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