What 9er fans are saying. Post game.

[dang]

Nor do I understand why the Whiner fan was not helped by ANYBODY? Nobody will convince me this wasn't seen by somebody who could have helped an unconscious person on the ground.

I guess his Whinner “friends” valued their $2000 tickets more than their “friend”.

 

[Tano]

I love him on my fantasy football team but so happy to see the Rams send him home a loser. WAB (whinny ass bitch) got what he deserved.

Deebo has made a dramatic move up on my hated players chart

 

[OregonRamsFan]

You are oversimplifying it. Trent Dilfer won a Superbowl, so did Foles and Flacco. Jimmy G has a very good team around him and wasn’t good in the playoffs.

Then there is the stat saying of all playoff QBs in the modern era, Jimmy G is the worst for fourth quarter performance. (Something like that).

JG is limited. He’s best trait is his quick release. He only fits into certain offense. He’s a short to mid range passer with serious questions about his performance under pressure. The Niners only have ups second round pick to get him. Maybe they can get that back. But teams know they don’t need him and are moving on, so unless there is a bidding war I think they maybe get a third round pick.

Remember, his team almost beat the best team in football (Rams) that featured an insane pass rush. He was very close to a SB. I personally don’t like Jimmy as a player; I’m just saying somebody will pick him up because there are plenty of bad GMs out there. It’s more of an indictment of our league than an approval of Gpolo. We will see.

 

[Merlin]

Well, I'd counter that by stating we're not in 3rd grade anymore. There is no law that states you need to punch someone who pushed you.

Fuck that. Someone puts hands on you then what happens is on them. You can do whatever you like, but I'm going to defend myself.

And if I'm the DA and find things went down that way I would drop the charges. Because fuck a society where we can't even let assholes learn a hard lesson.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Well, I'd counter that by stating we're not in 3rd grade anymore. There is no law that states you need to punch someone who pushed you.

Think about how countries deal with one another. When a country shows some act of aggression on another, the attacked country huddles up to discuss an "appropriate response". There are a range of responses that show they will not back down, but are not disproportionate. You don't launch nukes when a jet is "accidentally" shot down, for example.

The dude got pushed, and punched the other guy.

I remember playing in a casual, intramural flag football game in college, where I reached and grabbed a guy's flag while he was trying to avoid me, and he lost his balance and fell. He approached me, pissed off that I "tackled" him, and I just calmly told him "chill out, was just an accident". It should have ended there, but the dude turned away, then sucker punched me right in the mouth. This was not an appropriate response, and I was not pleased. The escalation afterwards, in my opinion, was completely justified by his response.

This Whiner fan never had that chance as he was unlucky and hit the ground hard. I hope he recovers fully. I also don't understand why the guy who punched him chose that response, in a parking lot on his way to the NFC Championship game. I would not want to risk not being able to see the game, but that's just me I guess. Nor do I understand why the Whiner fan was not helped by ANYBODY? Nobody will convince me this wasn't seen by somebody who could have helped an unconscious person on the ground.

Just a sad thing all around. Will we never learn? The Giants fan that was beat up in the Dodgers parking lot has permanent brain damage...

It’s likely that anyone that saw the altercation felt that the guy who did the shoving must be a jerk and they weren’t going to risk missing the game since he instigated the whole mess.

I think the punch was warranted because a push can be just as dangerous. The guy who was pushed could have tumbled onto the asphalt or concrete and hit his head.

If you decide it’s okay to lay your hands on someone then you open yourself to retaliation. Fight or flight response can be pretty instantaneous. I know from my own experience that I’d likely have punched the guy too. It’s a reaction.

Now if the push was accidental then that’s a different story. In the end just don’t be stupid.

 

[hotanez]

So it was one punch and lights out? I keep hearing the news about the vicious beating this guy took. I guess the news needs to make seem like a bigger story than it really was.

 

[Kupped]

So it was one punch and lights out? I keep hearing the news about the vicious beating this guy took. I guess the news needs to make seem like a bigger story than it really was.

He’s in a coma.

Seems bad.

 

[BigRamFan]

He’s in a coma.

Seems bad.

Does seem bad and that is unfortunate. But let's be clear here, his own actions got him put into a coma.

 

[Kupped]

Does seem bad and that is unfortunate. But let's be clear here, his own actions got him put into a coma.

Kinda, sure.

Law doesn’t really care much

 

[Merlin]

From the story it said he hit his head when he fell. So he went lights out with the punch. The coma idk not a doctor but don't they induce that at times for brain swelling or something of the sort?

 

[BigRamFan]

Kinda, sure.

Law doesn’t really care much

Not looking for a debate on litigation but, in my opinion, any reasonable investigation, based on what we've heard about this incident, can't lead to any conclusion other than self defense. His injuries were more the result of bad luck, hitting his head when he fell, than malicious intent.

 

[Kupped]

Not looking for a debate on litigation but, in my opinion, any reasonable investigation, based on what we've heard about this incident, can't lead to any conclusion other than self defense. His injuries were more the result of bad luck, hitting his head when he fell, than malicious intent.

Was it self defense or retaliation?

I won’t go any further, but those seem to be different things.

 

[kurtfaulk]

Not looking for a debate on litigation but, in my opinion, any reasonable investigation, based on what we've heard about this incident, can't lead to any conclusion other than self defense.

I dunno.

It's not self defence if the other person is walking away from you. He wasn't in any danger. His feelings were hurt. So he pushed the whiner and when the whiner turned around he sucker punched him.

He's going down for this.

.

 

[hotanez]

He’s in a coma.

Seems bad.

not that he's in a coma , you totally missed the point. The news is talking about a vicious beating, not a one punch and done. On top of that it sounds like the guy started it. Play stupid game win stupid prizes.

 

[BigRamFan]

I dunno.

It's not self defence if the other person is walking away from you. He wasn't in any danger. His feelings were hurt. So he pushed the whiner and when the whiner turned around he sucker punched him.

He's going down for this.

.

Walking away as was the Ram fan when he was pushed from behind? No amount of proceedings will change the fact as to who was the instigator.

 

[hotanez]

I dunno.

It's not self defence if the other person is walking away from you. He wasn't in any danger. His feelings were hurt. So he pushed the whiner and when the whiner turned around he sucker punched him.

He's going down for this.

.

definitely not self defense but both guys wee in the wrong.

 

[kurtfaulk]

definitely not self defense but both guys wee in the wrong.

They sure were.

.

 

[hotanez]

They sure were.

.

Whatever was said they both could of just walked away, now one guy is in a coma and the other guy is facing chargers/jail time. All this over a football game. You really can't fix stupid.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

He’s in a coma.

Seems bad.

A medically induced coma. That could mean different things. Like if he needed facial reconstruction and needs to be intubated then inducing a coma is common.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

From the story it said he hit his head when he fell. So he went lights out with the punch. The coma idk not a doctor but don't they induce that at times for brain swelling or something of the sort?

Yes. There could be several reasons.

Not looking for a debate on litigation but, in my opinion, any reasonable investigation, based on what we've heard about this incident, can't lead to any conclusion other than self defense. His injuries were more the result of bad luck, hitting his head when he fell, than malicious intent.

Maybe self defense. I guess if he felt threatened. If he thought the guy was going to continue coming at him.

Was it self defense or retaliation?

I won’t go any further, but those seem to be different things.

Could be either. Was it a shove and that's all or was the guy still coming at him? Its really difficult to tell from where we sit. If I shoved somebody and he punched me I'd figure I deserved retaliation for starting it.