Vent thread

[dieterbrock]

Exactly. If goff "goes through his progressions" and takes a sack in that situation who do you think would be the 1st person to complain about it? We already know the answer. The hypocrisy is amazing.

I've yet to hear McVay say the primary goal was to make the first down. That's the problem with the play calls. They went for the big play as if there was plenty of time left.
They had all the confidence in the world that they'd get the ball back, and the Jets deplorable offense made not only 1, but 2 first downs to run out the clock

 

[Ellard80]

Rams need a deep threat! Nobody respects the deep ball anymore! Fucking Jets 30th pass defense my ass!!!

yeah our passing game has really gone down hill.. all we can do is dink and dunk...

It's a combination of many different factors but its bad...

 

[kurtfaulk]

My point was that if you're the OWNER of the team looking at the money and franchise building value of that pick, you defend it at all costs. Fire the HC who you're gonna fire immediately in 3 weeks if not sooner and INSTRUCT whoever you appoint to not fuck up the plan.

but that is why they are the jets. ineptitude at every level of the organisation.

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[FrantikRam]

Goff got exactly the matchup on 4th and 4 that McVay wanted. That was the design of the play. It was the same play that beat the Chiefs. Criticize McVay for choosing that play there. It wasn't Goff who made that call.

Listen to McVays press conference. He mentions having Kupp there on an underneath route and the way he says it sounds like that was the primary - maybe it wasnt open, who knows - but it was Goff who decided to throw deep there

 

[badnews]

I want so bad for Goff to be an elite QB. But if anyone thinks he is more than an average QB at best should not watch football

Im about as big a Goff fan as you will find on here and "average" is exactly what I would call him this year.

And I don't care which stats suggest that this year has seen improvement from him. That line doesn't pass the eye test.

Our offense needs some serious work.

 

[Boston Ram]

As my parents used to say, I’m not mad, just disappointed.

They don’t even deserve this thread.

 

[MachS]

I'm not arguing that I'm just pointing out you're hypocrisy. What I said is 100% true and you and others have proved it time and time again.

He should be able to go through his progressions and still not get sacked. That's a professional QBs job.

But why are you automatically assuming he gets sacked by going somewhere else with the ball??

If he puts this ball on Reynolds body its a completion.

 

[dieterbrock]

That makes no sense.

Because its how they run the organization. They dont fire the HC during the season. Gase doesnt think he's fired. You ever hear him talk? Darnold isnt giving up his spot, he knows he's out if they draft a new QB
Players play man, they arent going to lose on purpose and damage their own career.
They should have beat the Raiders, period. This loss would have still sucked but maybe just not as bad

 

[jrry32]

Listen to McVays press conference. He mentions having Kupp there on an underneath route and the way he says it sounds like that was the primary - maybe it wasnt open, who knows - but it was Goff who decided to throw deep there

It was going to be open. And Goff loves Kupp. So it doesn't make a lick of sense to me that Goff would go rogue and throw a deep ball over going to his security blanket unless the play made Everett the primary read.

 

[dieterbrock]

He should be able to go through his progressions and still not get sacked. That's a professional QBs job.

But why are you automatically assuming he gets sacked by going somewhere else with the ball??

If he puts this ball on Reynolds body its a completion.

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Goff, Goff, Goff, Goff, Goff, Goff

 

[Mackeyser]

Well, for 1, the Johnson family dont believe in firing a coach during the season. They never have, said they never will. And while he's the coach, its his team. Firing Williams was the right move, there turned out to be more to the story where Williams was defying him and that loss was final straw.
You fire the head coach, it doesnt guarantee losing either BTW. If its a coach the players support, they can play hard for him and win. Again, fans wish their team loses but coaches and players dont

And THAT'S why they're the fucking Jets.

Stupidest fucking team ever... and I'm including the Browns all those years and us during our dark days.

I feel bad for the fans, but I'm laughing HARD at the Jets as an organization.

They DESERVE to be bad.

And this isn't any year. In a year when you have the chance to get a Peyton Manning or Andrew Luck, you don't adhere to the normal "you play to win the game"

You don't take one Pyrrhic victory at the cost of a potentially fruitful decade of being competitive.

Well, *I* don't.

Apparently the Jets ownership is thrilled to be complete shit.

Good for them.

And the Jags fans are about to blow up Sam Darnold's charity b/c they understand.

In the 2020s there's nothing worse in sport than being a Jets fan. Nothing.

 

[MachS]

It was going to be open. And Goff loves Kupp. So it doesn't make a lick of sense to me that Goff would go rogue and throw a deep ball over going to his security blanket unless the play made Everett the primary read.

He often locks into his primary read and decides to go there. Nothing wrong with him being aggressive down the field, I think we all want to see that more. But it's situational football. In that moment when you only need 4 yards why would you choose to go deep if you saw Kupp coming open underneath? It's because he didnt know Kupp was coming open underneath because he was locked onto his 1st read with Everett.

 

[Giles]

He should be able to go through his progressions and still not get sacked. That's a professional QBs job.

But why are you automatically assuming he gets sacked by going somewhere else with the ball??

If he puts this ball on Reynolds body its a completion.

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I stopped reading after the first paragraph. I cant believe you just posted that. The oline job is to keep goff clean to be able to go through his progressions. Obviously they fucking failed today. It's also all 11 on the defensive side of the football to stop the opposing team from scoring. Did they do their job today? Obviously not. Alot of people in rams unis didn't do their job especially the coaches. You see how stupid that argument is?

 

[RamDino]

Which is exactly why McVay cant be blamed on these two plays. He made the correct calls to beat those looks, the players just didn't deliver.

Criticize McVay for choosing that play there. It wasn't Goff who made that call.

McVay made the call, and Goff recognized that Cam Aikers was one on one, so it may have seemed like the best option. But why make a rookie running back your number one option to make a great catch? I'm not saying Aiker's can't run that route, but it's not like he's done it a lot this year. Should have just run the ball twice for 4 yards. IMHO.

 

[dieterbrock]

Worst offense in the league. Scored 3 points in 2 of previous 3 games, 10 or less points in 7 of 13 games. And Rams cant keep them from making a 1st down at end of game?? 7 turnovers in last 4 games and they werent close to one today. And we're stuck in a typical Goff debate? Good god...
Here's the end of the game and what was truly disgusting...

• 1st & 10 at NYJ 37
  (3:54 - 4th) F.Gore right tackle to NYJ 40 for 3 yards (S.Joseph).
• 2nd & 7 at NYJ 40
  (3:10 - 4th) F.Gore up the middle to NYJ 48 for 8 yards (L.Floyd).
• 1st & 10 at NYJ 48
  (2:25 - 4th) F.Gore left tackle to LA 48 for 4 yards (T.Reeder).
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  (2:20 - 4th) Timeout #2 by LA at 02:20.
• 2nd & 6 at LAR 48
  (2:20 - 4th) (Shotgun) F.Gore up the middle to LA 48 for no gain (S.Joseph).
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  (2:17 - 4th) Timeout #3 by LA at 02:17.
• 3rd & 6 at LAR 48
  (2:17 - 4th) (Shotgun) S.Darnold pass short middle to F.Gore to LA 42 for 6 yards (J.Johnson III).
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  (2:00 - 4th) Two-Minute Warning
• 1st & 10 at LAR 42
  (2:00 - 4th) S.Darnold kneels to LA 43 for -1 yards.
• 2nd & 11 at LAR 43
  (1:20 - 4th) S.Darnold kneels to LA 44 for -1 yards.
• 3rd & 12 at LAR 44
  (0:39 - 4th) S.Darnold kneels to LA 45 for -1 yards.

 

[MachS]

McVay made the call, and Goff recognized that Cam Aikers was one on one, so it may have seemed like the best option. But why make a rookie running back your number one option to make a great catch? I'm not saying Aiker's can't run that route, but it's not like he's done it a lot this year. Should have just run the ball twice for 4 yards. IMHO.

I dont think being aggressive to Akers was a terrible decision, but was it the RIGHT decision?? What do you think happens if he throws to Reynolds here?

Goff, Goff, Goff, Goff, Goff, Goff

What do you honestly think happens if he puts that ball on Reynold's body Deiter?

But yea it's a bad play call by McVay right?

 

[kurtfaulk]

He should be able to go through his progressions and still not get sacked. That's a professional QBs job.

But why are you automatically assuming he gets sacked by going somewhere else with the ball??

If he puts this ball on Reynolds body its a completion.

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is it? there was a defender right over him. why didn't you add a few more mm to the shot?

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[OregonRamsFan]

I mean, they beat the jets what 40-3 last week...that’s not a leg I can stand on really...sigh

True. I can’t justify what happened today. I’m not a big fan of 17.5 point spreads. This is why. It just pisses off the other team. NFL will humble you.

 

[kurtfaulk]

Listen to McVays press conference. He mentions having Kupp there on an underneath route and the way he says it sounds like that was the primary - maybe it wasnt open, who knows - but it was Goff who decided to throw deep there

kupp was open but he stopped a yard short of the marker and there was a defender within a yard of him. if goff throws the ball to him the defender may have stopped him short of the sticks.

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[jacktheripper85]

He often locks into his primary read and decides to go there. Nothing wrong with him being aggressive down the field, I think we all want to see that more. But it's situational football. In that moment when you only need 4 yards why would you choose to go deep if you saw Kupp coming open underneath? It's because he didnt know Kupp was coming open underneath because he was locked onto his 1st read with Everett.

Exactly. I played QB all the way through HS. As every coach has always said “if your primary read isn’t there take what the defense gives you”. What annoys me is that Goff is going backwards. In that situation to just up and chuck it twice is a cop out. In either situation the receiver would have had to make a great play on the ball to make a catch due to great coverage. In that situation unless a guy is wide open-especially the 4th down play you have to progress to your underneath route and get the first down.