Vent thread

[RhodyRams]

Think before you post ....

 

[payote75]

I’m sure there were multiple reads. Goff just didn’t go through his progressions. Just pretty much chucked it up there twice. Don’t get it. You have Higbee, Woods and Kupp and needing 4 yards you throw a deep pass to a rookie and then another to a guy who drops the ball 1/3 of the time.

I like Goff but I think my love of the Rams clouds my judgement of him. He is a good QB but his football IQ is alarming at times and considering how long he’s been in the league I don’t know if that will change.

With all that being said we should have ran the ball twice. This team is just mystifying.

Thank you lord I've been trying to say that as well. That's my biggest worry/gripe. We all want him to be Maholmes or Brees or Rodgers but just don't see the intelligence. I will even say "yet" but how long do we wait? How long can we wait?

 

[Giles]

It was literally the same play as the KC game, without the obvious result.
Why they continue to believe in him I'll never know

Guy has insane potential but obviously hasn't lived up to it. It's such a shame honestly. But this whole goff lost the game crap is just that...crap. Those playcalls were stupid given the situation and mcvay should9 have just kicked the fg to tie it. Which probably wouldn't have mattered given how the d played.

 

[matt30]

Like its never a case of the rest of the team playing bad and Jared not, hes ALWAYS a constant denominator in our losses.

That's true of any team that looses. The QB has the ball so often that breakdowns elsewhere on the team fall on the QB's shoulders.

Can't stop the run? Then passing volume goes up. Can't stop the pass? Then you need to score quickly to keep pace. Getting manhandled on the LOS? Watch those sack numbers/fumbles/ints climb. Receivers not getting separation? Same thing.

That's why QBs get paid more than anyone else on the team.

 

[Ramlock]

Yeah that's a given.

I'm happy about that.

But honestly, I just don't understand how we shit the bad so badly defending the run.

I mean, if we defend the run, even with the TOs, we win easily.

I ‘VE read that Staley runs a light box bringing safeties down hard at the snap.
With a lead, the Rams can do that and commit to the pass D.

Teams that get a lead can run at the Rams, like the 9ers did and the Jets did.

 

[tklongball]

We still have a Play Action system, with a center who can't handle power DTs. It happens every time we face a team with a Big, strong DL. Blythe was abysmal today. 2nd half we started rolling Goff out of the pocket. You can only roll out of the pocket so often before a team adjusts. That is why it works so well SOMETIMES, but usually isn't a great strategy for an entire game.

I honestly believe that until we replace Blythe, we are going to struggle running the ball and passing from the pocket vs those types of teams.

 

[Ram_Rally]

3rd and 4, and we go deep?!

4th and 4, we go deep AGAIN?!

I'm sure there were other options on that play. Not sure why our qb went with the deep ball on both

 

[payote75]

Y'all need to stop.

In a year with a reduced cap, there is NO WAY the Rams can eat the dead money for Goff.

So even IF the Rams wanted to move on, they couldn't. He's on the team and likely the starting QB no matter what.

I think that's a good thing.

but even if you don't, he's gonna be our starter until at least 2022. Hopefully by then, he's doing well enough that no one wants to look at alternatives.

I'm good with that I want to give him every opportunity and I've said that a couple of times. I will say dude I hope I'm a thousand percent wrong but in my heart of hearts I feel I know the answer already. At least for me.

 

[jacktheripper85]

Goff got exactly the matchup on 4th and 4 that McVay wanted. That was the design of the play. It was the same play that beat the Chiefs. Criticize McVay for choosing that play there. It wasn't Goff who made that call.

Yes but the difference is against the Chiefs Everett had his man beat-in this instance he was covered like a blanket. Goff could of went through his progressions-I’m sure the pressure he was getting the whole game forced him to pull the trigger early but I know you know football and if you are being honest with yourself you know damn well that the better QBs in the league are not losing the game in that situation.

Sorry, but being at home, on the 40 yard line with 2 cracks to pick up 4 yards against an 0-13 team and you are the QB getting paid what you are getting paid you can’t lose that game. You just can’t. You can preach till the cows come home about it being a tram game but those moments are made for the guys making the most money on the field-period. They are supposed to make the big play at that time and he didn’t. And don’t take this as me being a Goff basher because I’m not-I like him but I’m starting to realize that he’s a good QB but due to consistency issues may never be great.

 

[dieterbrock]

I guess you missed Goff's postgame where he said he should've gone through the entire progression on 3rd down instead of throw to Akers.

You blaming that on McVay too?? Wake up man.

Oh yeah because you expect him to say he went with the play that was called? Come on man, your act is so thin.
Go thru progressions? So you and the other hacks would complain that he took a sack there?
You keep repeating the problem, and dont even realize it. It was a shit play design for the time of the game. They need 4 yards for 1st down, any positive yards gives the FG a chance. The design, the call was shit. THAT is the problem

 

[Ramlock]

Fuck the refs they were holding our dline blatantly the entire fucking game and im pretty sure there wasn't one holding call on them the entire game. The refs had money on this game but thats still no excuse for this sorry ass showing im embarrassed to be a rams fan today. Oh and fuck those two 3 and 4 calls GOOD GOD SEAN GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS!

One hold called on the Jets

 

[Giles]

I guess you missed Goff's postgame where he said he should've gone through the entire progression on 3rd down instead of throw to Akers.

You blaming that on McVay too?? Wake up man.

Lol you need to wake up. When has goff ever not taking 100% of the blame after a loss? You expect him to throw mcvay under the bus for not taking the fg there? Or Blythe and corbett's getting man handled all game? Come on dude you're bias is getting in the way of the obvious. That 4th down play was the correct read Everett just missed it. It happens.

 

[rdlkgliders]

He's better than Luck. They just gave the Jaguars a gift that will keep on giving for the next 15 years. We'll see if the Jags fuck it up. We're guaranteed to make the playoffs. The Vikings lost their 8th game. That means the only team that could knock us out at 9-7 would be the Bears, but they lost to us H2H. The only thing this game likely costs us is the #2 seed (which is still technically possible if we win out and NO loses to a NFC team). But it still fucking hurts.

Maybe but injuries asside I would take Luck over Lawrence in the same draft. If Luck consistently had good players and coaches around him he would have had an amazing carreer. Again injuries are always the unpredictable vaiable.

 

[Mackeyser]

Well, the coaches dont stop coaching and the players dont stop playing, and there is no way anybody in a Jet uniform wanted to be part of an 0-16 team.
Now, the Jets do suck, but they have a lot more talent than they get credit for

That's my point.

The Johnson family has to be besides themselves. They were on the cusp of not only getting a generational QB talent, but with that having the pick of HCs.

Now, they'll either have to stick with Gase or be stuck with the 5th best candidate (if not lower down) as well as being forced to pay Darnold a LOT of money for a 1 year rental.

They should have fired Gase after last week and told whoever was the HC to play a lot of rookies to "evaluate them" for next season.

I'd ask how you blow getting a Franchise QB who's graded out at the same insane level as P Manning and Andrew Luck and the Jets were like, "hold my beer"

Seriously, they rise up and play their best game of the year...on the road...against a playoff team...only to ensure they have the #2 pick in a draft where the 2nd best QB isn't worth the cost to move up???

I'm upset about this loss, but if I'm a Jets fan? I don't even drink and I'd be drinking HEAVILY tonight... that team FUCKED them for a decade tonight.

I mean... I can't even comprehend what they were thinking. And don't anyone give me the "you play to win the game" bullshit. Not when a franchise QB is there for the taking.

The Jets are the new Factory of Sadness.

 

[jrry32]

Yes but the difference is against the Chiefs Everett had his man beat-in this instance he was covered like a blanket. Goff could of went through his progressions-I’m sure the pressure he was getting the whole game forced him to pull the trigger early but I know you know football and if you are being honest with yourself you know damn well that the better QBs in the league are not losing the game in that situation.

Sorry, but being at home, on the 40 yard line with 2 cracks to pick up 4 yards against an 0-13 team and you are the QB getting paid what you are getting paid you can’t lose that game. You just can’t. You can preach till the cows come home about it being a tram game but those moments are made for the guys making the most money on the field-period. They are supposed to make the big play at that time and he didn’t. And don’t take this as me being a Goff basher because I’m not-I like him but I’m starting to realize that he’s a good QB but due to consistency issues may never be great.

Everett had his man beat here too. He had a step on him. The throw wasn't perfect like last time, but it was more than good enough. Everett simply doesn't attack the ball like he should. Had he gone up strong and tried to snag it, he would have caught the ball over Maye. But he tried to go up passively. Goff went to the primary read on that play. If you're angry at anybody, get angry at the coach for picking two plays in a row where the primary read was a deep ball. Goff always takes the heat when we lose. But McVay could have picked plays that focused on getting that first down. He wanted to go for it all, and it bit him in the ass. As for the better QBs in the league, plenty of them have lost games in that situation. I've seen Brady do it multiple times during my life.

Oh yeah because you expect him to say he went with the play that was called? Come on man, your act is so thin.
Go thru progressions? So you and the other hacks would complain that he took a sack there?
You keep repeating the problem, and dont even realize it. It was a shit play design for the time of the game. They need 4 yards for 1st down, any positive yards gives the FG a chance. The design, the call was shit. THAT is the problem

The stupid thing is that they arguably had the right route on that play. McVay should have had him treat Kupp at the primary option. Kupp ran a whip route and had the first down.

 

[MachS]

Oh yeah because you expect him to say he went with the play that was called? Come on man, your act is so thin.
Go thru progressions? So you and the other hacks would complain that he took a sack there?
You keep repeating the problem, and dont even realize it. It was a shit play design for the time of the game. They need 4 yards for 1st down, any positive yards gives the FG a chance. The design, the call was shit. THAT is the problem

McVay said he called the right 3rd down play vs the look... Goff said he needed to continue to go through his progression instead of throw to Akers. The design was shit? So you know more than McVay? He said they called the right play to win there. What do you think that means? Goff made the wrong decision with the ball.

What else do you need to understand? He made the wrong read, and/or chose the wrong WR. Plain and simple its not rocket science. This is not hyperbole...its a fact. From the coach and the QBs mouth after the game.

 

[Ramlock]

Everett had his man beat here too. He had a step on him. The throw wasn't perfect like last time, but it was more than good enough. Everett simply doesn't attack the ball like he should. Had he gone up strong and tried to snag it, he would have caught the ball over Maye. But he tried to go up passively. Goff went to the primary read on that play. If you're angry at anybody, get angry at the coach for picking two plays in a row where the primary read was a deep ball. Goff always takes the heat when we lose. But McVay could have picked plays that focused on getting that first down. He wanted to go for it all, and it bit him in the ass. As for the better QBs in the league, plenty of them have lost games in that situation. I've seen Brady do it multiple times during my life.



The stupid thing is that they arguably had the right route on that play. McVay should have had him treat Kupp at the primary option. Kupp ran a whip route and had the first down.

Everett had a step for sure.
Physical mistake not mental for Goff.

 

[dieterbrock]

That's my point.

The Johnson family has to be besides themselves. They were on the cusp of not only getting a generational QB talent, but with that having the pick of HCs.

Now, they'll either have to stick with Gase or be stuck with the 5th best candidate (if not lower down) as well as being forced to pay Darnold a LOT of money for a 1 year rental.

They should have fired Gase after last week and told whoever was the HC to play a lot of rookies to "evaluate them" for next season.

I'd ask how you blow getting a Franchise QB who's graded out at the same insane level as P Manning and Andrew Luck and the Jets were like, "hold my beer"

Seriously, they rise up and play their best game of the year...on the road...against a playoff team...only to ensure they have the #2 pick in a draft where the 2nd best QB isn't worth the cost to move up???

I'm upset about this loss, but if I'm a Jets fan? I don't even drink and I'd be drinking HEAVILY tonight... that team FUCKED them for a decade tonight.

I mean... I can't even comprehend what they were thinking. And don't anyone give me the "you play to win the game" bullshit. Not when a franchise QB is there for the taking.

The Jets are the new Factory of Sadness.

I disagree. I dont think they fire the HC and tell the interim coach who to play. Whoever gets that gig, also wants to win. Coaches arent going to lay down. I get it that fans want the team to lose, but the guys in the trenches dont

 

[kurtfaulk]

That's my point.

The Johnson family has to be besides themselves. They were on the cusp of not only getting a generational QB talent, but with that having the pick of HCs.

Now, they'll either have to stick with Gase or be stuck with the 5th best candidate (if not lower down) as well as being forced to pay Darnold a LOT of money for a 1 year rental.

They should have fired Gase after last week and told whoever was the HC to play a lot of rookies to "evaluate them" for next season.

I'd ask how you blow getting a Franchise QB who's graded out at the same insane level as P Manning and Andrew Luck and the Jets were like, "hold my beer"

Seriously, they rise up and play their best game of the year...on the road...against a playoff team...only to ensure they have the #2 pick in a draft where the 2nd best QB isn't worth the cost to move up???

I'm upset about this loss, but if I'm a Jets fan? I don't even drink and I'd be drinking HEAVILY tonight... that team FUCKED them for a decade tonight.

I mean... I can't even comprehend what they were thinking. And don't anyone give me the "you play to win the game" bullshit. Not when a franchise QB is there for the taking.

The Jets are the new Factory of Sadness.

i can't wait to watch rich eisen's take on it.

.

 

[jrry32]

Everett had a step for sure.
Physical mistake not mental for Goff.

Sure. But at the end of the day, players make plays. Goff didn't make the perfect throw, but the ball was still there for Everett. You have 3 to 4 inches on the safety. Go up aggressively and snag it. Everett didn't do that. I think Woods or Kupp snags that ball. Reynolds and Everett are too passive attacking it. I wish we could get our hands on Kyle Pitts. He's the best I've seen in years at attacking the football. Goff could really use a guy like him.