VENT Vent Thread: Eagles at Rams

[PhillyRam]

I guess this is the part I don't get. I thought the point of venting was to get stuff off your chest and then move on. I agree that people should not attack players or coaches, but it should be expected that scheme, personnel, etc are going to be criticized after a bad loss.

Think of it as constructive criticism vs manically ranting.

Or let's say it's like comparing a little league mother's reaction to her kid striking out vs a batting instructor who will simply point out issues with his swing.

I prefer the constructive criticism approach.

 

[DzRams]

Even with the line we have no juice in the wr room and kupp loss a step

Correct. It's possible to have multiple problems at once. We've had teams this year who have had success against our DL by getting the ball out in 2 seconds. There's no reason we couldn't do the same with a subpar OL if we had more juice in the skill positions.

 

[DzRams]

not so sure eh?

Look at the top 10 QBS in passing yards in the NFL...

There may not be one single high flying passing offense in the NFL right now.receivers

The Bengals? great young recievers but no offensive line.

The Ravens actually have the highest yppass... but no one thinks of them as a scary passing team.

Lions

 

[PhillyRam]

Eagles success comes in spite of, not b/c of Sirianni. Guy is a shit game-coach.

Best comment on X last night:


View: https://x.com/Kicktheball92/status/1860893075020632348

That I agree with. Their strength is that O-Line, Barkley, and there OL coach, and now adding Fangio to fix that defense.

Adding those two CBs was huge, The Rams need an offseason like that to fix the CB position. Williams should be a #3 CB on a SB team.

 

[Ellard80]

Lions

That's probably the closest thing ill agree.

But the lion's offense is totally built upon the run and physicality.

100% run first team.

Stafford has more passing yards on the season than Goff....

 

[Tumak61]

At least we don't have to think that if the refs didn't screw us we would have won. We got the shit kicked out of us. Looking like the Lions or Eagles are going to the bowl.

 

[PARAM]

Well let's look at things logically. We ARE NOT a Superbowl contender. Surprise, surprise. Did any of us really think we were? We have to set our aims juuuuuust a bit lower. Playoff team? Sure we can do that......this year. Gotta solve the OL problems. RT was a liability last night. LT was a liability last night. Avila got pushed around. Dotson and Limmer didn't do anything to single them out. But we need an improved OL. The rest? Kyren fumbles too much. And Tutu has sure hands, runs good routes and gets open just by the mere threat of his speed. Throw it to him more. I was hoping we'd upset them but they are a very good team. And with Saquon, a Superbowl favorite. So we lost to a Superbowl favorite. Nothing to warrant jumping off a roof. Let's win the NFC West and play a home playoff game. Give some other fanbase a nice vacation in L.A.!

 

[VegasRam]

Also....the Lions have the best roster around a QB in football. We would not have had that even if we kept our picks, as those picks would have been in the 15-25 range each year (and the Lions had their picks, which we obviously would not have had). So its just not an apples to apples thing.

This is absolutely dead on.
Which everyone doesn't realize, doesn't care, or just flat ignores.
Lions had been drafting in the top ten for fucking years, get Campbell, Holmes and a very good QB.
Embarressment of riches.

Storyline should be - "You should be good, and you should have been good sooner."

On another note - Ilike reading the vent thread, and especially like counting the number of posters that have NEVER posted on any other thread/topic.

 

[Ram65]

Eagles vs. Rams takeaways: Saquon Barkley goes off for franchise-record 255 yards rushing as Philly rolls​

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Eagles vs. Rams takeaways: Saquon Barkley goes off for franchise-record 255 yards rushing as Philly rolls

Barkley helped lead the Eagles to their seventh win in a row

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Eagles vs. Rams takeaways: Saquon Barkley goes off for franchise-record 255 yards rushing as Philly rolls​

 

[snackdaddy]

Are the Rams a good team? That is subjective. They clearly are not a bad team. To me they are a borderline playoff team that may or may not win a playoff game if they make it. They likely won't win two if they do win one. With the youth of this team on defense that is to be expected. As long as McVay and Stafford are willing to stick around for Stafford's final years we have a chance to have a very good team in the next year or two. A couple draft picks and a couple good free agents to plug holes and they will be better than what we saw last night.

 

[dieterbrock]

2 things you've never seen before, and they both happened in the same game.
1) Reviewing a play after they ran another play, I dont care that the red flag was thrown, the refs missed it and frankly Siranni waited too long to throw it. And that they were reviewing it upstairs regardless makes matters worse. Refs miss time out calls often and teams dont get a mulligan
2) Allowing a team to change their mind on declining a play. Totally ridiculous.
National tv game and 2 ridiculous calls. That either happened is crazy but that both happened on the same night?

 

[Selassie I]

Hold on just a minute...

Philly has just decided to go ahead and decline that penalty again.

You know, the call they initially Declined, then we ran a play, but the refs then said that Philly had changed their mind now and wanted the penalty to now.

 

[DzRams]

The only point I'll make is the 70's Rams.
Seven NFC West titles and one Super Bowl loss. I would have traded that limited success for one or two Super Bowl wins. The Lions have won nothing yet that matters and as good as they are now, all will be forgotten unless they win a Lombardi.
We have a Super Bowl from the trade, which makes all the difference to me.

To add to this, we are already the 2nd most successful, behind the Chiefs, over the last 7 years.

The Rams have had the 3rd most playoff wins, been to two Super Bowls and won one of them. The 9ers have one more playoff win and have been to a couple of Super Bowls but have lost them all. Think the 9ers fanbase is happy?

Despite being the 2nd most successful team since 2017, Rams fans are wholly dissatisfied with that; it's only the Super Bowl win that we actually acknowledge and celebrate. Winning it all is the only thing that placates a fanbase.

 

[dieterbrock]

Hold on just a minute...

Philly has just decided to go ahead and decline that penalty again.

You know, the call they initially Declined, then we ran a play, but the refs then said that Philly had changed their mind now and wanted the penalty to now.

Philly just reviewed Kupp's touchdown and it was determined he didnt have 2 feet down, so the final score was changed to 37-14

 

[DzRams]

That's probably the closest thing ill agree.

But the lion's offense is totally built upon the run and physicality.

100% run first team.

Stafford has more passing yards on the season than Goff....

My focus isn't about run versus pass. It's about having dynamic talent. The Lions have Williams and Gibbs - both players that defenses fear and have to gameplan for.

I think you've narrowed this down to having a passing game that's feared versus an overall offense that's feared. I'm not sure how great the Eagles passing offense is but with the addition of Saquon, they now have several game breaking players on offense.

 

[AZRams]

That I agree with. Their strength is that O-Line, Barkley, and there OL coach, and now adding Fangio to fix that defense.

Adding those two CBs was huge, The Rams need an offseason like that to fix the CB position. Williams should be a #3 CB on a SB team.

Yes, fix the secondary and add a good size/speed mix at WR.

 

[AZRams]

To add to this, we are already the 2nd most successful, behind the Chiefs, over the last 7 years.

The Rams have had the 3rd most playoff wins, been to two Super Bowls and won one of them. The 9ers have one more playoff win and have been to a couple of Super Bowls but have lost them all. Think the 9ers fanbase is happy?

Despite being the 2nd most successful team since 2017, Rams fans are wholly dissatisfied with that; it's only the Super Bowl win that we actually acknowledge and celebrate. Winning it all is the only thing that placates a fanbase.

If they were more consistent since 2018 in terms of regular season wins (avg 10+ each year as opposed to 12 one year, 5 the next, then 10, etc) I know I for one would be less critical and less annoyed.

Perhaps it's just the perception but they don't FEEL like the second best franchise in the league as you describe b/c they've been all over the place from year-to-year.

 

[RAMSinLA]

I think McVay is a great coach but I think if he has one weakness its the way he treats his players. He needs to be harder on them on the practice field so they are in the best shape they can be in and they are ready to play, this O-Line is weak slow and out of shape. They get beat on play after play. One good drive or two and they are worn out. Get the team ready to play and win McVay.
If he can't get these guys to play better I would throw in the towel on this season, sit Stafford and play backup players so my best don't get killed out there.
If I'm wrong about this and I could be, it means the Rams just suck and are in need of a complete rebuild and yard sale.

 

[DeaconJones]

Surprisingly, I am not as upset as I should be. This was a reality check game, and we now know what the reality is (in case we had delusions of grandeur). Run D couldn't be any worse, but this is the best running attack in the league we faced.

Even if Havenstein had been in instead of McClendon, the OL would still have had a very rough game. Maybe McVay could have gone 12 personnel, etc. to help protect. I think all were responsible except maybe Dotson?

Our pass rush had a couple of good results but mostly was not effective, especially with the number of run plays called.

I've never thought of Kyren as a fumbler, but now the thought is in my head. Steven Jackson had years with 0 fumbles - it can be done.

Karty looked like he mistimed his bad FG attempt.

If all goes well, we can be 6-7 and run the table and at least get a playoff game. We could in theory beat any NFC team except the Eagles as it stands now (based on the "any given Sunday" mantra).

 

[DzRams]

If they were more consistent since 2018 in terms of regular season wins (avg 10+ each year as opposed to 12 one year, 5 the next, then 10, etc) I know I for one would be less critical and less annoyed.

Perhaps it's just the perception but they don't FEEL like the second best franchise in the league as you describe b/c they've been all over the place from year-to-year.

You're highlighting my point - it's a perception based out of emotion not fact or logic.

2017 - 11-5; playoffs
2018 - 13-3; SB participant
2019 - 9-7, missed the playoffs
2020 - 10-6; NFC Divisional Game participant
2021 - 12-5; SB win
2022 - 5-12; missed the playoffs
2023 - 10-7; playoffs

This is an average of exactly 10 wins per year.
Only one losing season.
5 out of 7 they made the playoffs.

The above record is more consistent than pretty much every other team but the Chiefs and 9ers.