I have not seen anyone talk about gurley’s mental state but again I could have missed it. You were calling out all of the doubters weren’t you? That tells me you agree Gurley has a torn acl as that is the subject at hand. You are absolutely right people can have partial tears but we live in a world that acl injuries happen all the time. A partial tear would still not go under the radar. Maybe I miss interpreted your post but it seemed to me you thought Gurley was mentally tore up due to an acl injury?
Todd Gurley - Possible Torn ACL
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I have not seen anyone talk about gurley’s mental state but again I could have missed it. You were calling out all of the doubters weren’t you? That tells me you agree Gurley has a torn acl as that is the subject at hand. You are absolutely right people can have partial tears but we live in a world that acl injuries happen all the time. A partial tear would still not go under the radar. Maybe I miss interpreted your post but it seemed to me you thought Gurley was mentally tore up due to an acl injury?
Well, if it was known by any member of his staff and he wasn't told about such a serious injury, then someone needs firing. Yet, McVay is an excellent judge of talent. He could tell how special Todd was while seeing him in practice and on tape, so how could he not see the diminishment of skill? We don't know everything right now, so I am waiting for further info...
Allowed? Yes. Continuing on? I already gave you my reasoning and I see nothing new to change that. If one of the other mods wants to change the title, so be it. I changed it because I felt the source was pretty solid and if true it helps explain the situation with our RB. Pretty simple. If something new comes in, it can be changed again. Until then, I don't want a bunch of threads on Gurley and this about covers it.
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Wait for it.
Why did he have an mri after the Philly game? Just standard operating procedure? So he had mri’s after every game, right?
No. There was a problem. To be clear, it is just me speculating about that shot to the knee in the Philly game. Others point to the awkward tackle in the Bears game. We may never know.
But who said a tear happened in either game? Not me. I just think the signs of an injury occurred then. Not a tear, necessarily.
I don’t even accuse the team of hiding anything major. Maybe they downplayed inflamation, or a strain, or something.
But it was only 24 hours ago TG had his year-end physical. Something showed itself in that physical.
It may have happened in the Super Bowl. But the team is in PR mode. Gurley is not speaking. I am just telling you what is coming.
But I am just “a source” to you. And my friend, that I will at least disclose to you is a Ram fan in the medical field, is a serious person to me. But just a “source” to you. I don’t blame you.
But keep in mind, news sources are just people, too. I have a journalism degree. Does that make me a journalist? No. I don’t call myself that. I work in another industry.
But many of us have come to understand that many major news sources are actually very unreliable. The truth is all that matters. I ask a lot of questions.
You will believe the Washington Post, but be sceptical of what I say. Mkay.
Only one of us has a reputation of pathological lies.
Ultimately I wish for the best for TG and the Rams. We will find out in due time.
News sources I trust, in order of trust to not trust.
1) loyalRam
2) my neighbors dog
3) National Inquirer
4) Washington post
Except that as my boss was saying, at this point in the year, every player is a bit nicked up - especially your RB. He was saying Jimmy Johnson and even more so Barry Switzer used to believe in going full tilt in practices up to the end but that is pretty rare. Most would be having no hit rules on your skill players and having more walk through drills than contact drills. He thought that Emmitt's greatness was ended early because of it. That's his opinion. But the point he was making is that you won't really see the severity of an injury in many cases this late in the season. Often you just assume the player is going through what they all go through.
Just an observation, but ... that seemed like a lot of bet-hedging by you after the near-certainty of some of your previous posts.
I was going to post loyalram / SNL, bit I figured that was asuumed.
That dude defines fake news.
I took it more as clarification of what he was saying vs. what he felt like people though he was saying.
Here's what he wrote on a previous post in this thread (emphasis in original):
That seems pretty unequivocal to me. There is no equivocation on the "Gurley tore his ACL" part.
Here's another post by the same author from this thread (my emphasis this time):
the hit to the knee. Torn ACL guys. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. -sigh
Here he's stating, flatly, that Gurley has a torn ACL, and accompanying that statement with a picture from the Eagles game, effectively stating that's when it occurred.
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I don't gamble. As @tklongball said, just clarifying where I am speculating, like any of us, and what I know, and wanted to share with you guys.
Torn ACL.
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No. I've been consistent. That play in the Eagles game, (and I also posted those pics right AFTER THE EAGLES GAME in a thread, too) I infer there was an injury. An issue. Not an ACL TEAR. Gurley was different after that. The ultimate tear may have just occurred this past Sunday.
Well, earlier you were stating it as if it's fact, and not speculation. You are very unequivocal that Gurley tore his ACL in the two quotes of you I put forth in my previous post, and now you say you are just speculating. So can I gather then that you didn't really mean it in those two previous posts I quoted, as well as others where you were pretty strong about it?
And is your source just speculating as well, without full knowledge of the situation. You did say that your source was impeccable, presumably to bolster your point that Gurley did indeed tear his ACL, but speculation from an impeccable source is just that - speculation. Nothing more.
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Sorry if I was unclear. Torn
Edit: the source was not speculating. He was definitive.
You go a little farther than merely inferring in the posts I have quoted. You flatly state that Gurley tore an ACL - including right under the pic from that game. You didn't write "I think he tore an ACL there" or "I hope he didn't tear his ACL." You wrote "Torn ACL guys."
The fact that Gurley was injured and having knee issues was known even before the Eagles game. Some suspected as much after the Chiefs game, and most suspected there were issues after the Bears game. So knowing that Gurley was having knee issues was not news then.
Inferring there was an injury was and is moot - we have all known that for some time. Your main point on this thread up until now has been "Gurley tore his ACL", with your impeccable source being a Rams fan who is in the medical field. So if all you meant to do was infer that he might have tore his ACL, you should have written that instead of stating flatly, unequivocally, things like "Torn ACL guys" (under a picture of him taking a hit to the knee against the Eagles) and "Gurley tore his ACL."
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If he has one, I imagine it does bother him. Some here and on other threads question his mental state. Is he mad at McVay? Mad CJ got so much playing time? Depressed and ready to quit because of an ACL. Maybe they are saying itbecause he refused to talk after his physical. But people mentioned it.
I just said I think he has some kind of injury because he was limping. Some are saying he isn’t injured at all. Then why limp along the sideline? Was it fake? He has something wrong imo.
And how would your source actually know? Is he on the inside of the Rams organization? You could at least tell us that, given that you've also told us that he/she is in the medical field.
And if this information got to you and leaked to a publicly viewable message board like ROD, why isn't it being confirmed elsewhere?
I won't pretend that I know the status of Gurley's knee - it could be swelling from past issues all the way up to a fully torn ACL. But I certainly wouldn't be putting it out there as incontrovertible knowledge - yours or your source's - without independent corroboration.
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