Todd Gurley - Possible Torn ACL

[NERamsFan]

Mods, can we please change the title of this thread and remove unconfirmed info?? I hate to be that guy, but cmon..

 

[wmc540]

I submit to you exibit C, a quote from coach, in full “coach-speak”...

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translation:

“The team is not ready to drop a bombshell announcement regarding Todd, and certainly we’re not going to do it on your time schedule, Lindsay.

You caught me on my heels with this one so I’ll dop this PR approved foreshadowing on you to grease the skids for when we announce Gurleys injury: I will sit down with Reggie soon and he will “inform” me of Todds injury that I am freaking out about inside right now.”

Did we hear/read the same quote?

 

[Jacobarch]

huh. Well according to my impeccable source @Jacobarch this is the dumbest thread ever. I trust him over the information I know, and these paranoid reporters that spoke face to face with team officials.
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When i see an official report I'll eat crow. Until then...

 

[Psycho_X]

Well, if true, CJ Anderson long term contract... COME ON DOWN!!!!! Not long, long term but I could see a three year deal worth $15ish million with us being able to get out of it in two easily. I'd say that's about what he'd get on the market. RBs just don't get paid.

 

[OntarioRam]

Until we get an answer, we have to assume he's healthy, in which case, Sean McVay, for as good as he was this season, needs to be looked at pretty seriously. The Dallas game aside, he has gotten pass happy in nearly every big game the Rams have played in.

Well, if true, CJ Anderson long term contract... COME ON DOWN!!!!! Not long, long term but I could see a three year deal worth $15ish million with us being able to get out of it in two easily. I'd say that's about what he'd get on the market. RBs just don't get paid.

I'd go the opposite way if Gurley is healthy though!

I'd move on from Anderson if Gurley was healthy. If there is even an off chance CJ damages Gurley's confidence, we need to move on, if only to safe-guard the investment in our bell cow and his confidence. Backup RBs are replaceable. We already had a very good one, in fact, that jived well with TGIII in Malcolm Brown.

 

[XXXIVwin]

PARTIAL ACL tears are problematic, since relatively minor injuries are much more difficult to diagnose and treat as compared to severe ones.

There could be a combination of different things going on with the knee, including scar tissue buildup, cartilage damage, minor meniscus damage, or partially torn ligaments. MRI results are notoriously unreliable— oftentimes a surgeon has to actually see and feel the tissue (via arthroscopy) before making a definitive diagnosis.

If the central problem is indeed a “partially torn ACL”, then Gurley and the Rams would face a really tough decision with no easy answers. If you rehab the crap out of the surrounding area, you are still left with a “ticking time bomb” in a way— it’s much more likely to have a full tear at some point, and you’re still liable to have chronic inflammation. OTOH, it’s hard to make the leap all the way to surgery—after all, the ACL is still partially intact, and it is difficult to justify full reconstruction when the knee “might” respond to more conservative treatment. Finally— full reconstruction would probably mean Gurley would miss the first half of 2019.

Bottom line— my guess is that there are multiple medical opinions about the knee, and I bet Gurley will receive a “scope” to better assess what the hell is going on.

Final note: wouldn’t surprise me that Gurley could still reach top speed even with an ACL sprain. ACL injuries affect cutting ability more than top-end speed.

 

[RamsFanCK]

Ugh, as if loosing the super bowl wasn't enough. Now I have to hear this "possible" news. Rip my heart out why don't ya.... now I'm in panic mode a bit, if he's healthy then something is really really wrong, if he's not healthy then something is really really wrong

 

[rdlkgliders]

Ugh, as if loosing the super bowl wasn't enough. Now I have to hear this "possible" news. Rip my heart out why don't ya.... now I'm in panic mode a bit, if he's healthy then something is really really wrong, if he's not healthy then something is really really wrong

Good points, I hope if ACL it is a strain. Everyone is different but partial tears are the worse according to my surgeons opinion. I tore mine completely had very minimal pain and could have run full speed or close to it if my head would let me, For me and most if not all the problem is stability. If someone had a partial tear man as an athlete it is a tough call but IMO surgery and allograft over autograft for quicker recover is my choice. Often Miniscus tears come with ACL tears I was told. I had 2 separate surgeries 1 for each which slightly lengthens healing time. I hope it is not his ACL man that would suck. maybe just some chondromalacia or something treatable. But I don't believe for a second it is his head or conditioning....B.S

 

[I like Rams]

I'm trying to figure out where "possible" is a statement of fact.

If someone in the organization or media comes out and says something along the lines as " Gurley has a knee problem, acl tear not ruled out" etc. Noone has said anything. I also highly doubt they would put their highest paid running back in the league out there on the field if they thought he had a torn or "possibly" torn acl.

Title is misleading.

 

[I like Rams]

In defense of the thread title. It does state "possible", not confirmed.

If its not stating something, a question mark should be applied to the end.

 

[“Turbo set!”]

I was laughed at and criticized for saying in another thread that it was ridiculous to pay a RB with a history of knee injuries a ton of money. SMH.

 

[Robert]

I’m sorry unless it comes from Todd, McVay or the front office I don’t buy it. For one why would the rams send a guy back out on the field with a torn acl? Especially a guy they just gave a ton of money too and is a big part to their future success.

 

[Jacobarch]

I’m sorry unless it comes from Todd, McVay or the front office I don’t buy it. For one why would the rams send a guy back out on the field with a torn acl? Especially a guy they just gave a ton of money too and is a big part to their future success.

They wouldn't.

 

[Farr Be It]

If someone in the organization or media comes out and says something along the lines as " Gurley has a knee problem, acl tear not ruled out" etc. Noone has said anything. I also highly doubt they would put their highest paid running back in the league out there on the field if they thought he had a torn or "possibly" torn acl.

Title is accurate.

fixed it.

They wouldn't.

Maybe you guys can set aside some of these questions, and ask some others.

Did you read todays article I posted from the OCR?

• The players all conducted a standard year-end physical today. (Tuesday)
• Todd Gurley was strangely absent for the media, and refused to comment on the result of his physical. A clean bill of health gives him a great opportunity to put to bed all these questions. The chosen reaction stoked the fires.
• You read Coach McVay's comments on Gurley, on whether there were plans for any surgeries, and didn't find his stammering answer alarming? Wow. Read it again. He gave away the fact that there is a problem.
• Again, I tell you. (sure, you don't know me from Adam) Gurley tore his ACL. Nobody said he did it a weeks ago, or that the Rams knew it a long time ago, and played him with that knowledge.
• He had a physical today. It is very possible the Rams were shocked to find out today.

• it sucks. I further am told that he may be done. We all have seen signs of this in the way he has carried himself, of late. I think he is scared that his career may be over. It really, really sucks. I hope I am wrong. But the injury history. He has to have the fight in him. He has to listen to the doctors.

We will find out more soon. I am just sharing what I know with you guys. My source is a friend, and a Rams fan.

 

[kurtfaulk]

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Haha, he may be done. That doesn't mesh with an acl injury.

So which is it?

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[Farr Be It]

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Haha, he may be done. That doesn't mesh with an acl injury.

So which is it?

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I don't follow you, Kurtfaulk. The "he may be done" thing IS speculation. The ACL information is NOT.

Why are they conflicting in your mind? With Todds injury history, why is it far-fetched that he may be done?

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Los Angeles Rams RB Todd Gurley refuses to speak to media in final interviews of season
This is just weird.
Feb 5, 2019,
https://www.turfshowtimes.com/2019/...ss-super-bowl-liii-new-england-patriots-recap

Open locker room for Rams exit interviews, but Todd Gurley apparently has declined to speak, through a PR person.

— Rich Hammond (@Rich_Hammond) February 5, 2019
If you were looking for answers, apparently you’re going to be disappointed.

The Los Angeles Rams have let media know today as they conduct their final “exit” interviews that RB Todd Gurley will not be available.

Following appearances in the NFL Championship and Super Bowl LIII in which he was conspicuously underused that followed Gurley’s absence in the final two weeks of the regular season in which he was held out due to a knee injury, Gurley now heads into the offseason under the cloud of one of the biggest mysteries in NFL history.

With little justification, already many are filling in the gaps with their own explanations.

I’m of the belief that Gurley’s knee still isn’t 100%. It would certainly make sense given how things tailed off at the end of the season and postseason as well.

But if you’re of the opinion that his knee was in regular full health, answers as to why he was so limited get much more murky. And troublesome.

Over at the Ringer, Danny Heifetz is asking if the Rams should be concerned about Gurley’s impact on the salary cap after signing an extension in July that keeps him a Ram through the 2023 season. B/R’s Brad Gagnon went even further suggesting the Rams should looking at trading Gurley.

That’s the kind of thing that people do to fill an information gap when its presented.

Over the course of his five years as head coach (and especially the final three), the media did a poor job getting Jeff Fisher to explain what he was trying to do as head coach to remedy the team’s failures or to explain why they weren’t working.

Now, we have an information gap as to why Todd Gurley, the Offensive Player of the Year a season ago in which he was nearly MVP and the running back who was on pace to challenge the single season rushing touchdown record, was a no-show in the NFC Championship and locked into a jobshare in the Super Bowl with a running back who was unemployed as recently as Week 15.

So some writer is suggesting the Rams trade Gurley? If he's injured you won't be able to trade him, if he's not then why trade him? Because some writer knows nothing about the teams salary cap plans? Oopie Doopie.

Until we get an answer, we have to assume he's healthy, in which case, Sean McVay, for as good as he was this season, needs to be looked at pretty seriously. The Dallas game aside, he has gotten pass happy in nearly every big game the Rams have played in.



I'd go the opposite way if Gurley is healthy though!

I'd move on from Anderson if Gurley was healthy. If there is even an off chance CJ damages Gurley's confidence, we need to move on, if only to safe-guard the investment in our bell cow and his confidence. Backup RBs are replaceable. We already had a very good one, in fact, that jived well with TGIII in Malcolm Brown.

If Gurley's confidence is so fragile how did he make it this far? Maybe his confidence in his knee is shaken but when he needed help/relief, CJ provided. But CJ cannot do everything Todd can, and I'm sure Gurley knows that.

So now we have to look at McVay? 30 other teams would swap coaches with the Rams, he takes them from last to second place in the entire league in two years. We don't have to be looking hard at McVay. He's a young head coach and still learning along the way.

I’m sorry unless it comes from Todd, McVay or the front office I don’t buy it. For one why would the rams send a guy back out on the field with a torn acl? Especially a guy they just gave a ton of money too and is a big part to their future success.

Winning?

Or maybe because Todd's a competitor and downplayed the injury?

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

For all of the doubters here, did you not see Gurley limping on the sideline? He's got some kind of injury that was serious enough to hinder him in the most important game of his life. He's likely torn up about it. He may feel like he let his team down. He may be a bit down worrying if he will be able to play again, or even miss a year. He could be thinking, if this is tear number two, how long until the next one happens, or just dreading the possibility of a long rehab stint that he knows well.

 

[Robert]

For all of the doubters here, did you not see Gurley limping on the sideline? He's got some kind of injury that was serious enough to hinder him in the most important game of his life. He's likely torn up about it. He may feel like he let his team down. He may be a bit down worrying if he will be able to play again, or even miss a year. He could be thinking, if this is tear number two, how long until the next one happens, or just dreading the possibility of a long rehab stint that he knows well.

I don’t understand why your talking about his mental state that has nothing to with what is being said. I 100% agree something is wrong with Gurley. I would assume sometime this offseason he will have work done on his knee but not an acl tear. The statements aren’t adding up so yeah I am doubting it. The guy on this forum that has a “source” says Gurley tore his acl on 12/16 against the eagles. Yet he still played in the playoffs. Gurley said he had a mri after the philly game and it was negative and I am sure he was seen by a few doctors why didn’t anyone catch it? Now a physical today shows he has a torn acl but he still hasn’t came out and said it. Just doesn’t make sense.

 

[Robert]

Winning?

Or maybe because Todd's a competitor and downplayed the injury?

Gurley with a torn acl doesn’t help the rams win. I am sure Todd is a tough guy and wants to help his team but there is no doctor out there that would give the ok to a player to play with a torn acl. Especially doctors who look after athletes that are worth millions of dollars