Todd Gurley - Possible Torn ACL

[kurtfaulk]

I don't follow you, Kurtfaulk. The "he may be done" thing IS speculation. The ACL information is NOT.

Why are they conflicting in your mind? With Todds injury history, why is it far-fetched that he may be done?

This isn't the 1980s, an acl injury doesn't mean any player's career is done.

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[dieterbrock]

I was laughed at and criticized for saying in another thread that it was ridiculous to pay a RB with a history of knee injuries a ton of money. SMH.

 

[I like Rams]

Its 2019. He either has a torn acl and they are hiding it or he doesnt. Theres noway any of the medical staff has been clueless for 2 months on the health of his knee. If they are hiding it, they better hope that shit doesnt get out. Id also like to think McVay is smart enough to not sacrifice the best rb in the league's career for 1 season. Besides the Dallas game, he's been a nonfactor for 2 months and nothing he has done besides that game has shown its worth putting him in if he is indeed injured.

 

[…..]

It’s probably something that Gurley had a choice to make. Clearly he wanted to play and help however he could even if that was less than his normal workload. That’s why he was so emotional after the Saints game.

Anything too serious, and the choice to play is removed from the player.

 

[Jacobarch]

Why wouldn't they come out and say it now? There's no reason to keep on hiding it at this point. The season is over... Is he injured? Sure, but I don't think it's torn because they would just come out and say he needs surgery...
Furthermore trading a player with an injury doesn't really fly in the nfl, teams have their own doctors that run physicals on players that they are trading for. See Rodger saffold

 

[Liberator]

Why wouldn't they come out and say it now? There's no reason to keep on hiding it at this point. The season is over... Is he injured? Sure, but I don't think it's torn because they would just come out and say he needs surgery...
Furthermore trading a player with an injury doesn't really fly in the nfl, teams have their own doctors that run physicals on players that they are trading for. See Rodger saffold

As you said before, I really cannot imagine a scenario where they let a guy with a torn ACL play let alone at running back.

 

[MadGoat]

Why wouldn't they come out and say it now? There's no reason to keep on hiding it at this point. The season is over... Is he injured? Sure, but I don't think it's torn because they would just come out and say he needs surgery...
Furthermore trading a player with an injury doesn't really fly in the nfl, teams have their own doctors that run physicals on players that they are trading for. See Rodger saffold

Fines would likely be the biggest risk if the NFL determines the Rams were hiding a signifigant injury.

 

[fearsomefour]

Could be a partial tear.
It would spectacularly irresponsible to play him if he was not totally torn but ran the risk.
Either way, if it has to be replaced twice....well, that's a tough one to come back from.

 

[fearsomefour]

Fines would likely be the biggest risk if the NFL determines the Rams were hiding a signifigant injury.

Fines, maybe lose a draft pick as the NFL suddenly has a pretend hard on about player safety.

 

[MadGoat]

Its 2019. He either has a torn acl and they are hiding it or he doesnt. Theres noway any of the medical staff has been clueless for 2 months on the health of his knee. If they are hiding it, they better hope that crap doesnt get out. Id also like to think McVay is smart enough to not sacrifice the best rb in the league's career for 1 season. Besides the Dallas game, he's been a nonfactor for 2 months and nothing he has done besides that game has shown its worth putting him in if he is indeed injured.

There is the possibility he has no ACL. Now that would be scary.

 

[Ramlock]

I was laughed at and criticized for saying in another thread that it was ridiculous to pay a RB with a history of knee injuries a ton of money. SMH.

My humble counter to that is that TG was 3 -1/2 seasons removed from that injury, had demonstrated further injury avoidance and exceptionally high level performance.

OPOY and so on.

I think that’s a guy that the organization pays.

Everyone has personnel strategies; you and I are no different.

I just disagree.

Now, the current mystery seems to be a lot like 2016, when he had an off year and most wondered why. Turns out, he had a back issue and wasn’t totally healthy, according to
Dave McGinnis, after that staff had been fired.

I wish we knew...

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

@Robert I addressed my opinion on the ‘mental state’ because others here brought it up. I didn’t bring it up.

And many people here are also saying torn as in a partial tear. Players can play with a partial tear. Some are worse than others.

I also said some kind of injury. You seem to have selective reading skills or are just imaging that I said it is definitely torn because you want to argue or something.

 

[RamFan503]

If someone in the organization or media comes out and says something along the lines as " Gurley has a knee problem, acl tear not ruled out" etc. Noone has said anything. I also highly doubt they would put their highest paid running back in the league out there on the field if they thought he had a torn or "possibly" torn acl.

Title is misleading.

Dude - drop it and get over it.

 

[Loyal]

Right now I am uneasy that a HC who I like and respect, may have lied about an all important player's health like Todd Gurley. He looked into the camera and said Todd was "100%" before the Super Bowl. We sometimes give a pass for deception around the NFL draft, which is something I'm not fond of either, but it seems to be NFL custom.

If this ACL rumor is true and it happened weeks ago, I'll always question the truth of an important issue coming from my HC's mouth. He is a a preacher about accountability and it would show an incredible lack of it if he played a player with a torn ACL as a decoy for weeks, just to win games, against NFL reporting guidelines.

 

[Rambitious1]

Guys, I just think we should let things play out. Then form our decisions.
-whenever possible, assume innocence.

 

[badnews]

Right now I am uneasy that a HC who I like and respect, may have lied about an all important player's health like Todd Gurley. He looked into the camera and said Todd was "100%" before the Super Bowl. We sometimes give a pass for deception around the NFL draft, which is something I'm not fond of either, but it seems to be NFL custom.

If this ACL rumor is true and it happened weeks ago, I'll always question the truth of an important issue coming from my HC's mouth. He is a a preacher about accountability and it would show an incredible lack of it if he played a player with a torn ACL as a decoy for weeks, just to win games, against NFL reporting guidelines.

Yeah, that would be tough but before you make any lasting assumptions about McVays answers, you have to remember that there are a lot of other possibilities including that he was telling the truth as far as he knew it.

 

[I like Rams]

Dude - drop it and get over it.

I was responding to you on my reasoning, is that not allowed?

 

[Jacobarch]

Obviously this is a sore subject for us fans. Let's all agree that we will wait and see what the diagnosis is then we can talk about it. I say lock this damn thread until then

 

[thirteen28]

Right now I am uneasy that a HC who I like and respect, may have lied about an all important player's health like Todd Gurley. He looked into the camera and said Todd was "100%" before the Super Bowl. We sometimes give a pass for deception around the NFL draft, which is something I'm not fond of either, but it seems to be NFL custom.

If this ACL rumor is true and it happened weeks ago, I'll always question the truth of an important issue coming from my HC's mouth. He is a a preacher about accountability and it would show an incredible lack of it if he played a player with a torn ACL as a decoy for weeks, just to win games, against NFL reporting guidelines.

I think the fact that he had an MRI after the loss to the Eagles that turned up nothing dispels the theory that he tore his ACL in the Eagles game.

This article linked below also says there is no surgery planned:

https://news.yahoo.com/todd-gurley-insists-knee-fine-034416166.html

When all of this started, the concern was just about swelling in Todd's knee, which he said started occurring after week 1.

In the end, I'll believe the ACL tear theory when I see it corroborated as fact by multiple sources. Until then, it's just a message board rumor.

 

[RamWoodie]

Use "holding" in quotations, since that was a BS flag. But I'm talking earlier. Though that sequence was a bunch of crap. "Oh, it's 3rd and 20...let's surrender and do a no huddle rush!"

Exactly! Romo clearly questioned that call...I was HOT about it.