The rage aimed at Cody Parkey is disgusting

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Y’know... what I find funny is that there is so much ire over a fucking Bears kicker missing a kick - FOR WHATEVER REASON.
 

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But certain idiot Bears fans apparently have. I’m not sure how you took it this way but I was pointing out that your point has merit, but you wouldn’t take it to that extent just because you deem it his fault.
Thanks for clarifying for me! Issuing death threats is out of line. I only did it once towards Georgia F. (kidding, but felt like it with her).
 

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Y’know... what I find funny is that there is so much ire over a freaking Bears kicker missing a kick - FOR WHATEVER REASON.
Come on...it's all the rage! Nothing else matters!
 

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Y’know... what I find funny is that there is so much ire over a freaking Bears kicker missing a kick - FOR WHATEVER REASON.
It's almost as funny that we are obsessing about the feelings of a Bears kicker, when we are having a divisional playoff game in a few days... 5 pages worth..lol
 

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Guys...I am not joking.

The "trajectory" of a fg kick has always been a factor. On shorter kicks, kickers will purposely kick the ball on a higher trajectory (or arc) to get the ball over the lineman. They sacrifice distance in doing this. As the kick gets longer and longer, they have to lower the trajectory in order to gain distance. When a kicker is going for say 55+, or 60 yards or more, it becomes an issue. The ball gets kicked more like a line drive lower to the ground.

Here's a couple of analogies:

Golfers; When they tee up a driver and bang it 300 yards, it travels like a bullet low to the ground. When they hit a 9 Iron 125 yards out, the ball flies up very high and lobs onto the green.

Ski Jumpers: It might not look like it on tv, but those guys are mostly zipping along about 5-10 yards in the air. They're like bullets with a low trajectory to extend distance.

In this case, Parkey hit a low trajectory from 43 yards out and allowed the 6'2" Hester a shot at getting a hand on it. In 2018, NFL kickers made 76% of their kicks from 40-49, or 3 out of 4. 43 yarders are probably higher than that.

For these reasons, and watching the replays, Parkey should get 100% of the blame for that missed kick...in my opinion!

I think, at least I hope we all understand this. The point I was making is that if the D Line is in the backfield and reaching up, they are going to be able to reach the ball, where if they were blocked properly they might not. It is a ridiculous position to take that because the ball was blocked/tipped it is 100% the kicker's fault. What if the guy who blocks it gets 3/4 of the way to the kicker? there is no way to kick it high enough then. And that was my point. The Eagles got a lot of penetration on that kick by blowing up #68 who by any metric didn't block well on the play. They fact that they got penetration allowed them to block the ball when it was lower than it would have been had they been still back at the LOS. Therefore it is really hard to tell if it was blocked because it was a low kick, or because of the penetration.
 

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Watch that clip and look at the push the D Line gets against the left side of the O Line, specifically the 2 guys that push past #68. They get 2-3 yards past the LOS.
 
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I got that, but was thinking it's a circular point to discuss.

And maybe, that's all the more reason he should of kicked it higher, if he saw his linemen getting blown up before he made the kick!

He is not looking at the line, he is looking at the spot the ball is going to be, then the ball. He is trusting that his line will block, and he is only worried about the kick. No kicker in the world could do what you suggested.
 

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I've never understood how badly fans react to their team, in whatever sport, loses a big game. I don't go past disappointment myself, and can't grasp the hatred aimed at a player or coach for not winning a game. It's just a sport and I am not attached to it at that low of a level and it's not part of my identity.

I understand how it feels to watch my Rams lose a Super Bowl, and a playoff game and have the worst 5 year stretch in the history of the NFL. But I never hated anyone for it.

So I think the people flinging this type of crap towards a player is horrible.

ESPECIALLY sine we knew right after the game that the kick was tipped which altered the path of the ball.

Not a peep about the guy who didn't do a good enough job blocking to keep another player from getting his fingertips on the ball, it's all about the kicker who needs to die.

This must be something among certain fanbases because I don't remember this type of reaction when the Rams lost the SB to the Patriots, or when Az Hakim fumbled away the game in the playoffs against the Saints, or when Martz went fetal against the Panthers.

I wonder if there is any kind of study done on fans like this.

There wasn't Facebook, YouTube or social media like there are today. Today it's all over the net so we don't really know how many Ram fans really reacted. You know something? I still haven't gotten over that loss to the Pats in that Super Bowl. We were 14-point favorites; there is no way we should have lost. Of course I survive and don't think about it all the time. But until the Rams win a second Super Bowl, it will always be that way.
 

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https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.c...es-cody-parkeys-missed-field-goal-to-a-block/

NFL officially changes Cody Parkey’s missed field goal to a block
Posted by Charean Williams on January 7, 2019

It won’t make Bears fans feel any better . . . or Cody Parkey for that matter. But the NFL officially changed Parkey’s 43-yard, game-winning attempt to a blocked field goal.

No one mentioned Parkey’s kick being blocked until postgame interviews when Eagles defensive lineman Treyvon Hester revealed he tipped the ball. It began a social media debate about whether Hester really touched the ball, with a “Zapruder film” type of frame-by-frame video of the kick.

The NFL, though, has made the change on its Game Statistics & Information System site. In the play by play from the game, it now lists the play as:

4-2-PHI 25 :)10) (Field Goal formation) C.Parkey 43 yard field goal is BLOCKED (T.Hester), Center-P.Scales, Holder-P.O’Donnell.

So it’s official: Hester blocked Parkey’s kick. Now, everyone can debate whether Hester’s tip was the reason Hester missed the kick, but the NFL apparently saw enough that it thinks Hester was the reason for Parkey’s miss.
The truth will never catch up with the apparently false impression. That's reality at this point in time, or maybe always.
 

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I got that, but was thinking it's a circular point to discuss.

And maybe, that's all the more reason he should of kicked it higher, if he saw his linemen getting blown up before he made the kick!
He probably didn't see it because he was focused on the kick. I imagine he doesn't have that much time/concentration/skill to surgery his surroundings and change his intent mid kicking process. I could be wrong, but that seems like a recipe for flubbing a kick to me.
 

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@Karate61 it isn't possible to judge the angle of the kick/flight of the ball because it gets touched a few yards after leaving the ground. The guy who got his hand on it was on a free run, he was unblocked. And the lineman who was consoling Parkey looks like he is the one who did the Ole move and whiffed the block. I can't tell but it wouldn't surprise me if it was.

There was poor blocking on both edges.
 

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It's actually the Bears who are to blame for keeping a guy who obviously has a penchant for hitting the upright and the crossbar.

Good luck to Parkey in the future.
 

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Here's a pic of golf balls in flight, to visualize how the height and arc of a ball in flight differs between the length of a shot:
HowFarShouldYouHitYourGolfClubs.jpg

Not accurate at all...

3 of those shots will end up in the water

At least 2 would go 200 yds into the woods (not shown)

3 into the bunker

4 into adjacent fairway

With a 14 club bag, including putter, that leaves just 2 shots that actually went straight and intended distance

:D
 

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I blame Bears fans for not demanding a better stadium. A recent study ranked the Bears stadium the 5th worst in the NFL for kicking field goals. They live in the fricken Windy City! If you dont want the wind messing with kicks then build a dome. They are basically asking for things like this to happen on a regular basis.

Angry Chicago fans should burn down their own houses to send themselves a message.

https://nationalfootballpost.com/which-nfl-stadiums-are-the-best-and-worst-to-kick-in/
 
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Some of it is pretty bad, yeah.
But then, some of it is pretty funny too.

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