The official Aaron Donald IS BACK thread

[JackDRams]

So holding out for more money is okay if the entire group does it, but it's not okay if one player does it?

Regardless, you don't have to respect it. I'm just not down with the people who question Donald after this. He's the same guy he's always been. Take the emotions away and look at the situation rationally.



The players were/are the union reps. They decided as a collective to strike.
http://articles.latimes.com/1987-09-23/sports/sp-6303_1_nfl-strike

But you know what, we'll move on from that example. Let's talk about Marshall Faulk. Did he love football?

I'd say every single version of Aaron Donald loves football. That was apparent if you watched him in college. It's apparent watching him in the NFL. Donald and the Rams were playing chicken. Donald felt that if he held out passed the deadline, it might force the Rams' hand. It didn't. Donald decided that holding out wasn't worth it at this point, and he decided to report. It's a business. Both side made business decisions.

Only one business decision is jeopardizing the team this Sunday. But I'm done here.

 

[JackDRams]

I love scouting prospects as a hobby. I'd do it for free if it meant getting myself a job in the NFL. That doesn't mean I should expect people who actually have a job doing that in the NFL to do it for free.

You aren't good enough to make the NFL. It isn't your job. It's not the same situation. That's what he's telling you.

That's fine. But he, along with many, are missing my point. I can care less about the holdout. It's the fact that he shows up two days late, to be in the exact same situation, simply so he doesn't have to play.

And I was only replying like an asshole, because he decided to be an asshole. It's not ok to call someone's opinions and thoughts "messed up". I'm not the only one with this opinion. Just the only one with the balls to call it out.

 

[jrry32]

Only one business decision is jeopardizing the team this Sunday. But I'm done here.

Two business decisions are. Donald's decision to hold out, and the Rams' decision not to pay him.

But if we need Donald to beat the Colts when they're missing Luck, Kelly, and Vontae Davis, we suck.

 

[jrry32]

That's fine. But he, along with many, are missing my point. I can care less about the holdout. It's the fact that he shows up two days late, to be in the exact same situation, simply so he doesn't have to play.

And I was only replying like an icehole, because he decided to be an icehole. It's not ok to call someone's opinions and thoughts "messed up". I'm not the only one with this opinion. Just the only one with the balls to call it out.

That's one explanation. Here's another: He showed up early to make sure he can play next week (and so he wouldn't be a distraction to teammates during the game) because the Rams still refused to give him what he wanted even after it was clear he would miss a game.

 

[JackDRams]

Two business decisions are. Donald's decision to hold out, and the Rams' decision not to pay him.

But if we need Donald to beat the Colts when they're missing Luck, Kelly, and Vontae Davis, we suck.

I agree with your second paragraph. Not the first. We're paying Donald. We'll give him an extension, in good faith. We're essentially doing him a nice favour in this regard.

But we'll have to agree to disagree. I'm a little done feeling prosecuted. I usually agree with your opinions Jerry, so it's all good wit me. I respect your opinions. I'm just pretty pissed off, as you can see, that I won't be seeing 99 on the field tomorrow.

 

[jrry32]

I agree with your second paragraph. Not the first. We're paying Donald. We'll give him an extension, in good faith. We're essentially doing him a nice favour in this regard.

But we'll have to agree to disagree. I'm a little done feeling prosecuted. I usually agree with your opinions Jerry, so it's all good wit me. I respect your opinions. I'm just pretty ticked off, as you can see, that I won't be seeing 99 on the field tomorrow.

We're not doing him a favor by giving him the extension he earned. Your opinion is completely warped if you believe that.

It's clear that you can't view this issue through the perspective of both sides.

 

[BriansRams]

Seriously though? He really wants to be "the highest-paid player in the NFL?"
Come on now.

 

[BriansRams]

As long as the deal doesn't kill the cap and prevent keeping his teammates ...

The problem is, I think it will.

 

[kurtfaulk]

The problem is, I think it will.

Welcome to the nfl.

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[nighttrain]

no one knows what AD wants, good on both him and the Rams
train

 

[BriansRams]

I'm talking about guys calling him greedy, selfish, POS, etc.

I'll stand by him being greedy and selfish.
You have to be greedy not to accept whatever piles of millions were offered him. (14 million per year? No. I want 17 million per year.) Yes, I pulled those numbers out of the air.

Selfish because his teammates have been working very hard to get better all summer.

 

[JackDRams]

We're not doing him a favor by giving him the extension he earned. Your opinion is completely warped if you believe that.

It's clear that you can't view this issue through the perspective of both sides.

We have no obligation to give him an extension upwards of three years early. So yes, it's a favour by the team to do so.

Plenty of players earn extensions, and still manage to play out their contracts. I'm all for giving him an extension early. But to take the stance of "we have to" is the warped view.

You act as though I'm against the entire idea of an early extension. I'm not. I'm just not going to pretend like the Rams have some obligation to break the terms of his contract because he outplayed it. Early extensions are always a little good faith from the team. Especially three years out.

 

[jrry32]

We have no obligation to give him an extension upwards of three years early. So yes, it's a favour by the team to do so.

Three years early? He has two years remaining on his deal. We absolutely have an obligation to give him an extension. Otherwise, he'll hold out, like he just did.

Plenty of players earn extensions, and still manage to play out their contracts. I'm all for giving him an extension early. But to take the stance of "we have to" is the warped view.

Nah. It's a warped view to believe the Rams are "doing him a favor" by giving him an extension to keep him from holding out again when Donald EARNED that extension. There is no favor there. It's a business. They'll finally be paying him what he's worth.

You act as though I'm against the entire idea of an early extension. I'm not. I'm just not going to pretend like the Rams have some obligation to break the terms of his contract because he outplayed it. Early extensions are always a little good faith from the team. Especially three years out.

No, early extensions are not good faith. Teams do them because it's in their best business interests (or they believe it to be). The Rams absolutely have an obligation to extend him because he outplayed his rookie deal. Not doing so would be a terrible business decision.(see our handling of Janoris Jenkins)

 

[bubbaramfan]

Jerry32 said "He showed up early" Where u been? He just showed up today.

 

[kurtfaulk]

We have no obligation to give him an extension upwards of three years early. So yes, it's a favour by the team to do so.

Plenty of players earn extensions, and still manage to play out their contracts. I'm all for giving him an extension early. But to take the stance of "we have to" is the warped view.

You act as though I'm against the entire idea of an early extension. I'm not. I'm just not going to pretend like the Rams have some obligation to break the terms of his contract because he outplayed it. Early extensions are always a little good faith from the team. Especially three years out.

It's actually 2 years. And the cba allows rookies to renegotiate their contracts after their 3rd season in the league. AD had a crack at it. Not gonna hold it against him. 1st round rookies really got screwed by the vets last go round in cba negotiations. Crazy that teams can make elite players play for peanuts in their prime playing years. I feel sick for ad, obj, Mack, etc.

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[IowaRam]

 

[Frogbelly]

Yeah I should have put that in parentheses haha. But it's probably our easiest game of the season and should be a guaranteed win.

That's what we said before the first game last year....(28-0)

 

[bnw]

I think its a genius move. Saved from all the contact in training camp and preseason and the season opener and still gets paid.

 

[nighttrain]

That's what we said before the first game last year....(28-0)

Much, very much, different circumstances
train

 

[LARAMSinFeb.]

I think its a genius move. Saved from all the contact in training camp and preseason and the season opener and still gets paid.

That reputation hit, possible resentment, and damage to your team though. It's not all positive. Don't get me wrong--I'm elated he's back. I think AD will get caught up in the WeNotMe train soon enough.:yay: