The 2020 Season (+ Opt outs)

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City of Philadelphia leaves open possibility of fans at Eagles games this season

 

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I have a feeling that the NFL will mandate that all venues must be able to have at least minimal attendance or none will be allowed in the interest of fairness. I simply don't think that some teams will be allowed a home-field advantage like that when others are being denied. It would taint the season and put an asterisk over the entire season. They already did this type of thing with training camps and OTAs.
 

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City of Philadelphia leaves open possibility of fans at Eagles games this season



They were complaining on sports radio that they can't have fans at the Eagles games. I guess it's not completely out of the question. Thanks for the info and link.
 

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City of Philadelphia leaves open possibility of fans at Eagles games this season


LoL, the mayor of Philadelphia was on sports radio this morning. Basically he was talking out of his you know what. He said it was a fluid situation that a vaccine could be available in the next two weeks. That is just plain wrong to say that because they are months away from getting vaccines tested etc before the are available. Just read that the earliest is possible is in 2021.

The Mayor did say watching a game isn't worth dying over etc....The distinction was that any group over 50 people needs a permit but, that doesn't include major league sports. Thus fans for Eagle games hasn't been ruled out. He didn't make it sound at all promising that the Eagles would be able to have fans attend games.
 

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League To Create COVID-19 Classification

After much discussion on the topic, the league and union have agreed to a modification of IR rules. According to Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk, players who test positive for COVID-19 will be placed on a new COVID-19 list.

Once a player has been placed on the list, his roster spot may be taken by a player who has tested negative. Players on the COVID-19 list will be eligible to practice after three weeks, though he must be returned to the active roster within three weeks after that. If he is not able to return to the active roster, he will be placed on season-ending injured reserve or released with an injury settlement.

Critically, players who find themselves on the COVID-19 list will receive their normal salaries. That seems like an obvious point, but given the history of negotiations between the union and the league, one can never take anything for granted.

Team owners are expected to hold a virtual meeting tomorrow to discuss, among other things, whether training camp can start on time. Player opt-outs and testing protocols are also likely to be on the agenda, but it’s encouraging that this important step has already been taken.
 

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What we learned from the NFLPA's Friday conference call

On Friday, the NFLPA held a conference call with members of the Pro Football Writers of America to give the media a better idea of where the Players’ Association stands on discussions with the NFL as regards the safe start to a season, how a full season could possibly exist with spikes in coronavirus cases happening in multiple states, and where the two sides stand in the establishments of protocol.

NFLPA Executive Director DeMaurice Smith, Assistant Executive Director of External Affairs George Atallah, and President JC Tretter (who is also the center for the Cleveland Browns) were on the call representing the Players’ association, and Los Angeles Rams left tackle Andrew Whitworth joined the call, as well.

The NFLPA issued this statement a few hours after the call:


View: https://twitter.com/nflpa/status/1284238587589021704?s=21


Here’s what we learned.

Many things are still held up in discussions between the NFL and the NFLPA.

As one might expect, communications between the NFL and the NFLPA are ongoing, and all kinds of things — from whether there will be a preseason or not (if you’re listening to the NFLPA side, bet against it) to the absolute safety protocols, to testing schedules, and all kinds of other things — are still up in the air as the two sides attempt to hammer everything out in an unprecedented environment. A fairly scary thought with training camp reporting dates coming up at the end of the month. As Smith repeatedly said, the idea is to avoid the quick answers in favor of the right answers. But given the number of things that need to be decided upon, and the timeframe as it stands, that’s going to require an inordinate amount of heavy lifting to start everything on time.

Some coaches are not taking coronavirus precautions seriously.

Early in the call, Tretter mentioned that there are a few coaches in the league whose responses have been that the protocols are too difficult to enforce, and implied that some coaches appear to believe in the herd immunity theory.

“We’ve had coaches say the protocols are too much to ask, coaches are coming forward and saying, ‘Everyone’s going to get sick, so we might as well all get sick together.’ Those attitudes can’t happen. There are consequences to getting sick.”

I asked Smith how teams and coaches would be audited regarding adherence to whatever protocols are put in place, and he told me that it could be similar to the 2011 season, when teams that didn’t follow the new rules regarding contact were penalized financially, or with reduced practices.

The NFL must do more than adhere to state and local guidelines.

Smith talked at one point about the need for team doctors to follow state and local guidelines regarding testing and other medical aspects of handling COVID-19, which could be a very dangerous thing for players in states like Florida, Georgia, Texas, and Arizona, where testing protocols have fallen far behind, and cases have increased as a result. There will be a joint task force to ostensibly hold teams accountable, but without an absolute set of rules in place, regardless of location, teams could wind up in a nightmare scenario in which players are testing positive, and local hospitals are already at capacity due to spikes in cases in the area.

“Close contagion” is the elephant in the room.

Tretter pointed out that as a center, he’s in the epicenter of the whole thing when it comes to contagion, and he brought up an specific scenario. Let’s say that one of his teammates on the offensive line tests positive. Tretter has been right next to that teammate, or one player over from that teammate, on rep after rep. And all of Tretter’s linemates have been blocking defensive linemen and linebackers rep after rep. Based on that, it doesn’t take much to envision an instance of massive positive tests — as Tretter said, from zero to 30 in a big hurry.

Andrew Whitworth already knows how contagious this can be.

During the call, Whitworth relayed a story in which a relative of his went to lunch with a friend and caught coronavirus without knowing. From there, Whitworth, his wife, and their children caught it. From there, Whitworth’s father-in-law caught it and had to be hospitalized.

“It was definitely a scary thing,” Whitworth said, “to realize how contagious this is.”

There is no absolute number of positive cases that could cause a team quarantine.

Peter King of NBC Sports, who has spoken with Dr. Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institutes for Health and the guy Donald Trump is supposed to be listening to when it comes to the pandemic, asked if there’s an absolute number of players who would test positive and force a total team quarantine.

Smith spoke about the potential for false positives and false negatives, and the potential for “over-quarantining” in cases like that. The importance is to test every player every day, so that doctors can determine how many people may have created a “viral load.” But there is no number of positive tests at this point that would automatically cause a total team quarantine.

“If you’re looking for heroes in this, you’ve found that guy,” Smith said of Fauci. But the lack of an absolute number is, like so many other things right now, caught up in discussions between the NFLPA and the NFL.

“What’s good for the country is good for sports.”

At the end of the call, Smith made a separate and overt statement, exhorting everyone in America to take the most obvious precaution.

“Going forward in this, we understand that we’re trying to make a lot of decisions in the best health and safety [interests] of our players. But I’ll tell you right now — we’re in a place where, very simply, what’s good for the country is good for sports. As simple as something like wearing a mask will have, probably, the most significant impact on whether sport returns in this country. And that’s not a political statement; that’s a common sense and scientific statement. And where I think our guys [the players] can be incredibly helpful in stepping out on a larger stage other than football is that nothing will bring fans back to our stadiums [more] than a simple decision across the country to wear a mask.”

Mr. Smith is preaching to the choir here at Touchdown Wire. As my colleague Mark Schofield recently and eloquently wrote, if you want football at all in 2020, wear a mask. It’s as simple as that.
 

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CoVID Thread here: JUMP

This topic is about the 2020 Season and how it will go. (y)


NFL agreement: No preseason, less pads, more testing, players can opt out

With rookies around the NFL set to report to camps Tuesday, the league and its players’ union have found common ground on a lot of important issues:
  • No preseason games.
  • Players can opt out of the season amid COVID-19 concerns.
  • An expanded “acclimation period” — meaning, no pads — from seven to 18 days.
But as of Monday evening, there was no overall deal in place. Not surprisingly, it all comes down to the financial challenges of putting on a season that might not be played to completion, and how the revenue hit of 2020 will be absorbed in future seasons.

What’s left is a league in limbo looking to chart a path through the murky uncertainty of a pandemic.

With every sports league that has resumed in the age of coronavirus, the situation becomes more complicated and difficult as the restart nears. The NFL is no exception.

Testing was a significant hurdle. Whereas the league advocated that players be tested every other day, the NFL Players Assn. pushed for daily testing.

The sides met in the middle. Players will be tested daily for the first two weeks of camp, then, if the numbers meet certain standards, the testing shifts to every other day.

Specifically, if individuals in Tiers 1 and 2 — players, coaches, trainers, and others close to the team — have a positive rate that’s less than 5%, that triggers every-other-day testing. If the rate is more than 5%, daily testing continues.

In a memo sent Monday by the NFL Management Council to all teams, the league outlined the testing regimen, including the procedures for players reporting to camp. A player must test negative twice — with 72 hours of quarantining between the nasal swabs — before being allowed to enter the team facility. Starting Day 5, he is tested every day for the next two weeks.

An outside firm will conduct the testing, so it’s not as if players will be making daily trips to local emergency rooms or health clinics.

“We did not want any of our clubs to have to go to a hospital or hospital system, or a health-care facility in market and in any way take away from their capacity,” said Dr. Allen Sills, the NFL’s chief medical officer. “That was a driving force for us.”

What’s more, players, coaches and others will wear digital proximity-tracking devices that keep track of who they are coming in contact with, and for how long.

“Contact tracing is hard,” Sills said. “It’s not easy to do. When you do it the old-fashioned way, you have to rely on people’s recall of who they were around and how much time and what distance. So we’re actually really excited about having the devices that will provide a very high degree of precision.”

The individuals will wear the watch-sized devices at the facility, as well as having them implanted in their equipment. Players also will wear transparent mouth shields on their helmets that are aimed at reducing the likelihood of virus transmission. Of course, in a sport that’s all about physical contact, it’s hard to imagine that making a huge difference.

In recent weeks, the NFL agreed to cut the standard four weeks of exhibition games in half, then held on to the idea of one week of preseason games. The union wanted none, and Monday the league acquiesced.

The NFL also budged on the idea of players pushing the pause button on their careers for a season, although the specific details are a work in progress. So, theoretically, if a player decides not to play this season because of the pandemic, he can play next season under the terms of his 2020 contract.

The NFL and NFLPA already have agreed on more than 50 pages of protocols. It’s not as if they are starting from scratch. They are working on the last 10%, which happens to be the most nettlesome part.

Unanswered: What if the league plays only half a season? Do players get all their money? And if a player falls ill from the coronavirus, should he be placed on the non-football injury list? Because teams are not required to pay those players.

And there’s more. The salary cap is a calculation linked to the revenues of the previous season. NFL owners want the financial impact of lost revenues in 2020 to be reflected in the 2021 cap. The players want to spread that pain over the next decade so it isn’t all absorbed in one season.

Even if there’s no agreement on the exact path forward, players are expected to report under the terms of the current collective bargaining agreement. This isn’t a lockout or work stoppage.

All of this is a moving target with evolving issues and no easy answers. Tuesday is a soft deadline, but a far firmer one is July 28 when entire teams report. That will make for some long negotiations over the next week.

The sides have a common destination. Both want games. If history is a guide, they will find a way to resolve their differences — turbulent as it might be — and at least give it a try.
 

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Report: 2020 NFL season ‘likely’ to start on time

Will the NFL season start on time?

The odds of the NFL season even taking place didn’t sound promising on Sunday when NFL players blasted the league over health and safety concerns heading into training camp. Fortunately, it led to a huge victory for the NFLPA and the outlook for the season starting on time is positive.

Currently, the Kansas City Chiefs are scheduled to host the Houston Texans for the NFL Kickoff Game on Sept. 10. While things could always change during the COVID-19 pandemic, NBC Sports’ Peter King told The Dan Patrick Show that it is likely the 2020 NFL season begins on time.

Multiple NFL teams and players have encouraged the NFL to delay training camp and the regular season. But commissioner Roger Goodell and the league office aren’t receptive to the idea, making it far more likely the season begins on time.

However, King does note that there is far less certainty about the NFL finishing its season or operating without interruptions. This, despite the fact that the league is investing heavily in contact tracing and will test players regularly for COVID-19.

The NFL is already facing a potentially massive revenue hit this season with a majority of games played in empty stadiums or with significantly reduced capacity. If the league is forced to cancel games or stop play altogether, things will get even worse for everyone involved.
 

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Well, now with no preseason, it appears as long as the players are healthy, there will be some type of season, however, if one team becomes inundated with positive tests, IMO, they will shut it down.
 

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Gonna be interesting to see how the various coaching staffs determine which rookies stick and which players, including vets, make the final cut without benefit of a single ps game.

Whew!
 

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Gonna be interesting to see how the various coaching staffs determine which rookies stick and which players, including vets, make the final cut without benefit of a single ps game.

Whew!

Very true, especially at kicker, IMO, the veteran Lirim Hajrullahu most likely has the edge here because he has a track record. I guess maybe scrimmages will determine roster makeup.
 

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Have we signed any of our draft picks yet? Haven’t seen word but maybe I missed it previously
 

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And there’s more. The salary cap is a calculation linked to the revenues of the previous season. NFL owners want the financial impact of lost revenues in 2020 to be reflected in the 2021 cap. The players want to spread that pain over the next decade so it isn’t all absorbed in one season.

I don't know how the lost revenue can be accounted for in one season. Teams have been planning on the cap to increase every year. IIRC 2021 was going to be higher than the 10% that has been occurring annually. At least they should keep it the same as this years cap. A 30-40+ Million Dollar decrease will be unworkable for many teams.
 

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BREAKING: The Miami Marlins' season opener tonight has been canceled due to a COVID-19 breakout, according to @ESPN.

At least 14 people, including players and coaches, have tested positive in recent days, sources tell ESPN. abcn.ws/3f4NUjR

I hope we don’t have a similar thing happen where one or two teams have an outbreak during the first or second week of play that results in canceled games and ultimately a canceled season.
 

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I’m not sure how such a contact sport like FB can avoid this kind of thing. So it’s going to be either run the risk and hope you get lucky no teams get hit too hard....Or just be prepared for some teams to be playing lots of bench players randomly for 1-2 games.

Or don’t try at all. No good answers/solutions. Not for sports that is.
 

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so if players opt out they get $150k for the season? fuck that. no wonder they're so worried about their safety. they can get 150 large for doing nothing. i wonder if they had to live on $500 a week, would it make them change their minds about their safety?

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