Teams To Interview Raheem Morris For HC Vacancies

[Tano]

I don't think the 3rd and 7+ is as bad as you think. It may not be what you (or any of us want) but my point as been the massive overreaction to what is happening in 3rd and long (traditionally defined as 7 or more yards). People wanted him fired, people called him stupid, retarded, no b@lls, a coward. They'd second guess and say he should do things are are not part of the Fangio philosophy.

3rd and long under Morris is middle of the pack, not great but not bottom 5 and he needs to get fired. And 3rd and 6 or less is better than the 3rd and 7 or more. However, I don't think it is a huge enough difference for the level of hate Morris gets.

2021-23
3rd and 6 or less is 11th
3rd and 7+ is 14th
3rd and 1 (a yard short) is 21st

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I admit I wanted him gone last year after the Tampa Arizona and New Orleans games last year allowing the 4th quarter collapse and then allowing two horrible offenses last year to short pass us to death.

But this year, I have not been as critical of Morris other than the 3rd and long (and that includes the yard short situations which probably lowers us quite a bit in the above standings). How many times has the other team gotten 1 yard short and gone for it on 4th down or kicked a field goal that was out of reach on 3rd down. Plus I haven't like the fact that when we get a big lead in the 4th quarter that we let the other team come back. I haven't rewatched those games to see if Morris changed his defensive schemes or not in the 4th quarter in those games.

One more question - what is the Rams % on 3rd and 10 and longer compared to the rest of the league. I have no clue but it is those downs that I have a real problem with Morris and how he plays ultra soft on them. Heck 3rd and 15 or more has been awful this year too.

 

[JimY53]

Again my definition of a soft zone against the "statisticians definition of a soft zone" is completely different.

I see the Bills frequently play tough coverage with their CBs. Only a few times a game do you see both CBs playing 7 yards back (my definition) on 3rd and long.

That's the point ... it does not matter what you think you see. It matters what happened. You are not seeing the full picture because you don't watch the all-22

These are consecutive pictures... nothing cherry-picked ..from the first couple of drives of a few games with Frazier/McDormott defense. The yellow circles are close coverage the red arrows are 7 or more yards. The ones in cloud (4 yards) are not marked.

In only the first few plays they play off more than you say the whole game.

And there are more where this came from hundreds.

Now, so you don't get the wrong idea ... I am not saying the Bills play MORE soft zone than the Rams. They don't. But you characterization of "aggressive" is simply errant. Bills defense is very good -- better than Rams

The pictures show it and the fans in Buffalo know it.

 

[JimY53]

I admit I wanted him gone last year after the Tampa Arizona and New Orleans games last year allowing the 4th quarter collapse and then allowing two horrible offenses last year to short pass us to death.

Fine. You wanted him gone. But did you think he was stupid? Or a coward? If not, then this stuff doesn't apply to you. My only issue with you is you say things that are not (unintentionally) accurate. You said Rams played more aggressively early in te Tampa game and THEN went to a soft zone. That was false. So, it gave me the impression you were not seeing the full picture.

You also threw out 3rd down this and all that ... and my point there was it was not as bad as you make it out to be. You were comparing it to just "your eyes" and that isn't fair. The stats show that Ramsz 14th on 3rd a 7+ in Morris's tenure. They are 11th in 3rd and 6 or less.

So while I think it is fair you wanted fired. Anyone can have an opinion but I think opinions are more credible when there are facts backing them up. That is why I go through great pains to show receipts.

My opinion is that Rams defense had breakdowns, and is not as good as it was in 2020 but that people who wanted him fired were going by emotion based on what they "saw". I show the reality is not what they "saw".

I haven't rewatched those games to see if Morris changed his defensive schemes or not in the 4th quarter in those games.

I understand that and get that impression from your answers. That's fine. Not everyone is into Rams football like I am. For some it is more casual. Some more emotionally intense. I do what I like to do..try and understand and be reasonable. That's me.

But it requires work. But to your point --- he didn't change schemes. I showed you the Tampa game---there is a post here somewhere that shows the same coverages the entire game. What we all were upset about is that it failed. His detractors never praised him in the past when it worked to the level they wanted to run him out of town on the few occasions it didn't work.

One more question - what is the Rams % on 3rd and 10 and longer compared to the rest of the league. I have no clue but it is those downs that I have a real problem with Morris and how he plays ultra soft on them

Okay -- once again -- it you have a problem with 3rd and 10 or more because of how soft Morris plays them -- certainly your right to think that. But if you have a problem think about how fans of the 24 teams behind the Rams feel. They must be pulling their hair out.

Rams are 8th in 3rd an 10 and longer.

 

[OldSchool]

Fine. You wanted him gone. But did you think he was stupid? Or a coward? If not, then this stuff doesn't apply to you. My only issue with you is you say things that are not (unintentionally) accurate. You said Rams played more aggressively early in te Tampa game and THEN went to a soft zone. That was false. So, it gave me the impression you were not seeing the full picture.

You also threw out 3rd down this and all that ... and my point there was it was not as bad as you make it out to be. You were comparing it to just "your eyes" and that isn't fair. The stats show that Ramsz 14th on 3rd a 7+ in Morris's tenure. They are 11th in 3rd and 6 or less.

So while I think it is fair you wanted fired. Anyone can have an opinion but I think opinions are more credible when there are facts backing them up. That is why I go through great pains to show receipts.

My opinion is that Rams defense had breakdowns, and is not as good as it was in 2020 but that people who wanted him fired were going by emotion based on what they "saw". I show the reality is not what they "saw".


I understand that and get that impression from your answers. That's fine. Not everyone is into Rams football like I am. For some it is more casual. Some more emotionally intense. I do what I like to do..try and understand and be reasonable. That's me.

But it requires work. But to your point --- he didn't change schemes. I showed you the Tampa game---there is a post here somewhere that shows the same coverages the entire game. What we all were upset about is that it failed. His detractors never praised him in the past when it worked to the level they wanted to run him out of town on the few occasions it didn't work.


Okay -- once again -- it you have a problem with 3rd and 10 or more because of how soft Morris plays them -- certainly your right to think that. But if you have a problem think about how fans of the 24 teams behind the Rams feel. They must be pulling their hair out.

Rams are 8th in 3rd an 10 and longer.


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Now that is fun to see. People so upset about the Rams being bad in 3rd and long and they're 8th best Impressed the offense is 5th best.

 

[JimY53]

Again my definition of a soft zone against the "statisticians definition of a soft zone" is completely different.

I see the Bills frequently play tough coverage with their CBs. Only a few times a game do you see both CBs playing 7 yards back (my definition) on 3rd and long.

And it's fine you see what you see. I contend you are not really looking at it closely ... but you have to admit that many Bills fans don't see what you are seeing.

I see the same complaints that Rams fans have. But not having a dog in the fight in terms of Buffalo ... it's well known that McDermott runs a soft zone -- missed with others --- so once again not saying more off coverage than the Rams --- but more than most of the rest of the league. Their soft zone of preferences are cover-3 and cover-2 with a lot of soft cover-2 on third downs ... Morris shows a soft look and rotates into cover-3 but also Cover-4 and covered 6/8

So I am going to disagree that the Bills are some kind of aggressive defense in terms of coverage and most would agree with me, that have looked at.

This is good, though, it gets the facts out there so people can perhaps re-evaluate their views on things within the context of the entire league and not just a myopic view of the Rams.

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[JimY53]

Now that is fun to see. People so upset about the Rams being bad in 3rd and long and they're 8th best Impressed the offense is 5th best.

True. Offense is good at it, that's one of Stafford's special qualities he can hit some of the 3rd and ultra-long.

But I did 3rd and 10 or more upon request. 3rd and 15+ will show the same thing. Stafford is clutch. Stll, we not talking high percentages it's just a comparison with the other NFL teams.

Things are not as good as we want them, we all wish the defense was better. I do. But whatever Morris's sins he's done nothing that deserved getting fired over.

Also ... as I mentioned Stafford for the offense ... why do folks obsess over the coaches so much? Both coaches and players are part of the equation but Morris gets the short end of the stick.

 

[Kupped]

I'm not nearly as football literate as @JimY53, obviously.. but it's fun seeing someone with the ability/desire to truly breakdown what the Rams defense has done under Morris to show people how faulty their narratives are.

I've said it in other posts.. I don't know how much of it is a football thing and how much a current society thing. People stuck on/attracted to easy narratives, as opposed to taking the time to learn nuance and subtlety is a huge issue these days.
I get that it's "just football".. but the communication issue is a thing, imo.

Anyway.. thanks for all the detailed breakdowns.. I enjoy it.

 

[JimY53]

This is not a Morris thing ... leave that aside ... think brader, Fangio-related ... more coaches run it than before ... withtheir own twists and whatever...

but as aggressive Cover-0 and Cover-1 (man-to-man) and Cover-2 man combined go down and soft zones (cover-5, Cover-6/8) go up, scoring has gone down.
0, 1, 2-man in 2023 = 24.4%
0, 1, 2-man in 2019 = 34.9%

Obviously, many factors are involved ... I can think of one right off the top of my head.

But the questions have to be asked what is happening -- is the soft zones limiting scoring? That is the point of Fangio's defense philosophy, limit explosives because when you have an explosive play (offense or defense) the chance of a touchdown rises significantly.

McVay got Staley and it worked so McVay wanted to keep it and other teams wanted it too (copycat league). I said this on another board and it's always been true ... QBs like man coverage. They prefer it and are more successful with it.

Steve Young said a while back that wide receivers are too good for teams to play a lot of man-to-man.

 

[WestCoastRam]

yes, Yeast would play if Fuller can't go. Durant has been starting but has also been splitting some time with Kendrick.

But, here is a twist ... Duke Shelley is back. So, Lake could play safety and Shelly could play nickel (star).

Maybe could be this:
Base
OLB-Hoecht
DE-Williams
NT-Brown
DT-Donald
OLB-Young
ILB-Jones
ILB-Reeder
CB-Spoon
CB Durant
LS-Lake
RS-Johnson

Penny
OLB-Hoecht
DE-Williams
NT-Brown
DT-Donald
OLB-Young
ILB-Jones
Star-Lake
CB-Spoon
CB Durant
LS-Yeast
RS-Johnson

Nickel
DE-Hoecht
NT-Turner
DT-Donald
DE-Young
ILB-Jones
Star-Lake
CB-Spoon
CB Durant
LS-Yeast
RS-Johnson

Or this
Base
OLB-Hoecht
DE-Williams
NT-Brown
DT-Donald
OLB-Young
ILB-Jones
ILB-Reeder
CB-Spoon
CB Durant
LS-Yeast
RS-Johnson

Penny
OLB-Hoecht
DE-Williams
NT-Brown
DT-Donald
OLB-Young
ILB-Jones
Star-Durant
CB-Spoon
CB-Kendrick or Shelly?? Is he ready?
LS-Lake
RS-Johnson

Nickel
DE-Hoecht
NT-Turner
DT-Donald
DE-Young
ILB-Jones
Star-Durant
CB-Spoon
CB-Kendrick or Shelly???
LS-Lake
RS-Johnson

Also, possibility Johnson goes LS and Yeast or Lake RS -- Fuller been LS all year, 3 guys have played right side, Yeast, then Lake for a game then Johnson.

So, Johnson has played LS in past and both Yeast and Lake have been on right this year ... maybe they'd want Johnson where he's played before ...

With a passing attack like Lions, a lot of 3 wides, St. Brown in slot ... maybe Shelly would be better as the outside and Lake safety and Durant inside??

Then there is Kendrick ... he could play outside with Durant inside. How much confidence do they have with him vs Shelly?

Shelly has experience against Detroit...was a Viking and Bear. With Vikings an outside CB with Bears he was a slot. Have no idea if he's healthy enough.

But the answer is I don't know. All this may be moot if Fuller can play

Shelly back is no small thing. Will be fascinated to see tweaks with him avail.

 

[WestCoastRam]

I'm not nearly as football literate as @JimY53, obviously.. but it's fun seeing someone with the ability/desire to truly breakdown what the Rams defense has done under Morris to show people how faulty their narratives are.

I've said it in other posts.. I don't know how much of it is a football thing and how much a current society thing. People stuck on/attracted to easy narratives, as opposed to taking the time to learn nuance and subtlety is a huge issue these days.
I get that it's "just football".. but the communication issue is a thing, imo.

Anyway.. thanks for all the detailed breakdowns.. I enjoy it.

Don't sell yourself short... you read football at a graduate level. But like a state school.

 

[WestCoastRam]

My opinion some people (don't know about you) don't watch much football other than Rams games.

I know so much more about Rams football by watching other teams.

 

[PhillyRam]

This is not a Morris thing ... leave that aside ... think brader, Fangio-related ... more coaches run it than before ... withtheir own twists and whatever...

but as aggressive Cover-0 and Cover-1 (man-to-man) and Cover-2 man combined go down and soft zones (cover-5, Cover-6/8) go up, scoring has gone down.
0, 1, 2-man in 2023 = 24.4%
0, 1, 2-man in 2019 = 34.9%

Obviously, many factors are involved ... I can think of one right off the top of my head.

But the questions have to be asked what is happening -- is the soft zones limiting scoring? That is the point of Fangio's defense philosophy, limit explosives because when you have an explosive play (offense or defense) the chance of a touchdown rises significantly.

McVay got Staley and it worked so McVay wanted to keep it and other teams wanted it too (copycat league). I said this on another board and it's always been true ... QBs like man coverage. They prefer it and are more successful with it.

Steve Young said a while back that wide receivers are too good for teams to play a lot of man-to-man.


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In Philly, fans bitch about their zone defense as well. It is the way the league is right now, unless you have two elite CBs, which are hard to find.

 

[JimY53]

In Philly, fans bitch about their zone defense as well. It is the way the league is right now, unless you have two elite CBs, which are hard to find.

To play man you need those CBs you talk about but also elite pass rush.. not just average. People can watch the Browns in a few minutes and they will see about as many men as anyone plays.

The Vanilla theory, the so-called Fangio scheme -- is the rage, as you say, and the idea is to cap vertical routes to limit explosive plays and that forces teams to get frustrated and run the ball. When you mix run in you can still score but it takes longer so you are less efficient --- fewer points per minute per TOP.

Teams can beat man easier than zone --- but this is key ---zone defenses can fail, too.

Solution? Fangio's match-zone. Routes are matched once they are presented ... not before. And once routes are matched it's man. It takes about some of the rub routes, the crossing routes and the long seam routes (the NFL's deadliest)

It is weak in short stuff. Heck, There is a 5-yard no-cover zone at the LOS +5 in many cases. And it's weakness is there are a lot more rules so risk of miscommunication.

In man, in most cases it's a poor matchup WR > CBs, TEs > nickels, RBs > LBers the offense has the advantage.

Goal is to limit points, not yards. Does it work? The numbers suggest it marginally does.

 

[JimY53]

o truly breakdown what the Rams defense has done under Morris to show people how faulty their narratives are.

I have not run across this here but there are a couple of people on an old board who simply reveled in their own lack of knowledge and would not accept anything. they hated Morris and were ugly about it. Obsessed even.

years ago there as a local issue of a country attorney to get a $300,000 yearly salary, not including staff and so on. It was not known he was getting that much but it came out because someone did research.

County commissioners, one of them and supporters tried gaslight people -- "oh that's normal, he's not overpaid. Not at all. That's what everyone makes"

So, I call every county in the state ... all of them. Plus counties in neighboring states that shared a border--the region.

I talked to one guy who was all proud, well, "I am the highest paid in the state but let me tell you why. I am also the city attorney I fill two jobs so I make $130,000."

The rest of the state paid $70-80K to their county attorney.

So at the county commission meeting I spoke and read the numbers. It was going to be friend of the guy (1 vote) someone opposed (1 vote) and then a 3rd guy who would not state his position.

He voted for the contract saying "I don't believe your numbers."

He didn't say they were wrong, he just had his opinion. As you can tell from here I had all the FOIAs and records backing things up. I had the papers ... the proof right there.

Nope, was he was really saying is I don't believe the truth.

Same situation for the Morris-haters. Truth is never good enough.

 

[Kupped]

I have not run across this here but there are a couple of people on an old board who simply reveled in their own lack of knowledge and would not accept anything. they hated Morris and were ugly about it. Obsessed even.

years ago there as a local issue of a country attorney to get a $300,000 yearly salary, not including staff and so on. It was not known he was getting that much but it came out because someone did research.

County commissioners, one of them and supporters tried gaslight people -- "oh that's normal, he's not overpaid. Not at all. That's what everyone makes"

So, I call every county in the state ... all of them. Plus counties in neighboring states that shared a border--the region.

I talked to one guy who was all proud, well, "I am the highest paid in the state but let me tell you why. I am also the city attorney I fill two jobs so I make $130,000."

The rest of the state paid $70-80K to their county attorney.

So at the county commission meeting I spoke and read the numbers. It was going to be friend of the guy (1 vote) someone opposed (1 vote) and then a 3rd guy who would not state his position.

He voted for the contract saying "I don't believe your numbers."

He didn't say they were wrong, he just had his opinion. As you can tell from here I had all the FOIAs and records backing things up. I had the papers ... the proof right there.

Nope, was he was really saying is I don't believe the truth.

Same situation for the Morris-haters. Truth is never good enough.

That's dedication to the process.

Yeah... "I don't believe the facts you have.."
And... "everyone is entitled to an opinion"
have combined to create a mind-numbing phenomenon.

 

[JimY53]

That's dedication to the process.

yeah ... but the guy got his $300,000 .... until the next contract. When that came up new commissioner (someone I knew) insisted on a peer-study ... what comparable-sized counties were making.

He got $160,000 per year... still way too high but he didn't get a county staff ... so he had to pay own assistant.
Took 4 years, though.

So eventually the taxpayers were paying an exorbitant rate for a mediocre attorney. I mean if he'd been an All-pro -- that's one thing. But this guy got caught up in a bond issue where he was out of his depth (no money for expert in bonds) and eventually county got fined and some other things... no one in country will buy our muni (county) tax-free bonds (or didn't, may be okay now) because they got downgraded in risk, no longer AA or A whatever...

 

[Tano]

Fine. You wanted him gone. But did you think he was stupid? Or a coward? If not, then this stuff doesn't apply to you. My only issue with you is you say things that are not (unintentionally) accurate. You said Rams played more aggressively early in te Tampa game and THEN went to a soft zone. That was false. So, it gave me the impression you were not seeing the full picture.

You also threw out 3rd down this and all that ... and my point there was it was not as bad as you make it out to be. You were comparing it to just "your eyes" and that isn't fair. The stats show that Ramsz 14th on 3rd a 7+ in Morris's tenure. They are 11th in 3rd and 6 or less.

So while I think it is fair you wanted fired. Anyone can have an opinion but I think opinions are more credible when there are facts backing them up. That is why I go through great pains to show receipts.

My opinion is that Rams defense had breakdowns, and is not as good as it was in 2020 but that people who wanted him fired were going by emotion based on what they "saw". I show the reality is not what they "saw".


I understand that and get that impression from your answers. That's fine. Not everyone is into Rams football like I am. For some it is more casual. Some more emotionally intense. I do what I like to do..try and understand and be reasonable. That's me.

But it requires work. But to your point --- he didn't change schemes. I showed you the Tampa game---there is a post here somewhere that shows the same coverages the entire game. What we all were upset about is that it failed. His detractors never praised him in the past when it worked to the level they wanted to run him out of town on the few occasions it didn't work.


Okay -- once again -- it you have a problem with 3rd and 10 or more because of how soft Morris plays them -- certainly your right to think that. But if you have a problem think about how fans of the 24 teams behind the Rams feel. They must be pulling their hair out.

Rams are 8th in 3rd an 10 and longer.


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Looking at those pictures it appears that Buffalo plays a tighter coverage about half the time which is a very good percentage imho.

I think you misunderstand me on soft zones. I do not have a problem with a soft zone per se, I just believe that tighter coverage should be anywhere from 30 to 50% of the time depending on game circumstances. Last year was an aberration with Morris which I could not understand having Ramsey on one side.

Sure Ramsey got beat once in awhile but he is a much better man to man CB or within 5 yards than a playing 7 yards off CB.

I was also for mixing up the defense last year where we show man and then back off and vice versa. I could not understand how Morris last year did not show differences in his secondary. Again I believe it comes down to assistant coaches not being able to teach difficult concepts.

 

[JimY53]

Looking at those pictures it appears that Buffalo plays a tighter coverage about half the time which is a very good percentage imho.

Well, it has to be compared to what other teams do ... not what it appears ... because the Bills are a soft cover-2 team.

I think you misunderstand me on soft zones. I do not have a problem with a soft zone per se, I just believe that tighter coverage should be anywhere from 30 to 50% of the time depending on game circumstances.

Where do you get this? Name a team that does what you want -- 30-50% of the time in tight coverage ... so we are getting somewhere, you want the impossible from Morris. What? 3 teams do that? No one does 50.

Last year was an aberration with Morris which I could not understand having Ramsey on one side.

Ramsey was not on one side. Played both sides plus star --- and pretty much evenly split

Sure Ramsey got beat once in awhile but he is a much better man to man CB or within 5 yards than a playing 7 yards off CB.

Ramsey prefers it. Said he plays out of phase (like it top-down) vs say CBs CB who like press. Since he became a Rams his PFF grades vs man lower every year than in zone. Predates Morris. Some years by a significant margin. Ramsey is a zone CB and has been for 5 years...same with time in Miami.

I was also for mixing up the defense last year where we show man and then back off and vice versa. I could not understand how Morris last year did not show differences in his secondary.

Fangio scheme is the scheme ... as I have said it's a theory. One you don't like. And that's fine. But presnap disguise is one way to do it. Or show the same thing and rotate afterward, the disguise comes after the snap to not give the QB a presnap read.

So, fine, you don't like it. But you are just saying you don't like the scheme because for the most part scheme does not allow it.

I have explained this over and over. If you don't understand, well, that's your choice. The information is in many of my posts and I get it from sources online. You've got to choose to understand rather than reject.

We've gone back and forth. You made claims, I have shown how many of them are wrong. No matter how many times you move the football I've shown that it is at least possible that you have not looked at the numbers prior to forming your opinions. And when you do offer opinions on non-Rams stuff (Bills) you have your definition of what a scheme is.

I mean it is a pretty well-known thing that Bills play a soft zone ... but you don't see it.

Therein lies the issue I have with some Morris critics. They sometimes (may not you, but this convo has me learning that way) see what they want to see and not what happened.

Again I believe it comes down to assistant coaches not being able to teach difficult concepts.

Well, fine. That's what you believe. What if someone felt the exact opposite? Are they wrong? What of neither view had any evidence to back their view up?

Doesn't that make both opinions about equal?

Then you have someone who has stats, facts and film and so on as evidence. See the difference?

My opinion, based on the study I have done on the issue is that you are not seeing what actually happened. From the TB game, to 3rd and 10 or more and all that (rams not as bad as you characterize) to an esoteric definition of terms, including what Bills do...

I think the possibility exists that you are wrong. You might want to consider that. Motive? Probably you just got frustrated and reacted with emotion (Fire Morris!) without see how his body of work compares to other teams

Truth usually outs.

 

[OldSchool]

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[Tano]

Well, it has to be compared to what other teams do ... not what it appears ... because the Bills are a soft cover-2 team.



Where do you get this? Name a team that does what you want -- 30-50% of the time in tight coverage ... so we are getting somewhere, you want the impossible from Morris. What? 3 teams do that? No one does 50.


Ramsey was not on one side. Played both sides plus star --- and pretty much evenly split


Ramsey prefers it. Said he plays out of phase (like it top-down) vs say CBs CB who like press. Since he became a Rams his PFF grades vs man lower every year than in zone. Predates Morris. Some years by a significant margin. Ramsey is a zone CB and has been for 5 years...same with time in Miami.


Fangio scheme is the scheme ... as I have said it's a theory. One you don't like. And that's fine. But presnap disguise is one way to do it. Or show the same thing and rotate afterward, the disguise comes after the snap to not give the QB a presnap read.

So, fine, you don't like it. But you are just saying you don't like the scheme because for the most part scheme does not allow it.

I have explained this over and over. If you don't understand, well, that's your choice. The information is in many of my posts and I get it from sources online. You've got to choose to understand rather than reject.

We've gone back and forth. You made claims, I have shown how many of them are wrong. No matter how many times you move the football I've shown that it is at least possible that you have not looked at the numbers prior to forming your opinions. And when you do offer opinions on non-Rams stuff (Bills) you have your definition of what a scheme is.

I mean it is a pretty well-known thing that Bills play a soft zone ... but you don't see it.

Therein lies the issue I have with some Morris critics. They sometimes (may not you, but this convo has me learning that way) see what they want to see and not what happened.


Well, fine. That's what you believe. What if someone felt the exact opposite? Are they wrong? What of neither view had any evidence to back their view up?

Doesn't that make both opinions about equal?

Then you have someone who has stats, facts and film and so on as evidence. See the difference?

My opinion, based on the study I have done on the issue is that you are not seeing what actually happened. From the TB game, to 3rd and 10 or more and all that (rams not as bad as you characterize) to an esoteric definition of terms, including what Bills do...

I think the possibility exists that you are wrong. You might want to consider that. Motive? Probably you just got frustrated and reacted with emotion (Fire Morris!) without see how his body of work compares to other teams

Truth usually outs.

I watched the games and Buffalo plays tight coverage frequently. It may be called soft zone because the two safeties play deep but again my explanation of a soft zone is 2 CBs playing 7 yards or more which is what Morris did the majority of last year. Maybe I exaggerated about 50 % but they do play a lot of tight coverage.

And yes - Morris soft coverage especially in the three examples I gave frustrated the hell out of me last year.

But I have said more than once that I am mostly happy with Morris this year except for the 3rd and long and one other thing that I will discuss in a separate statement. As to the 3rd and long - if other teams are worse than the Rams, then I would be pulling my hair out on them. I will have to go back this year, play by play to determine if you are right or if my theory that they give up almost all the yards back is right.

The other thing that you have not answered on that I have had a major heart attack from is allowing teams to come back in the 4th qtr when the Rams have a greater than 2 score lead. I don't think my heart can handle these come from behinds.