Staley to the Chargers

[Merlin]

I don't think it changes anything with JJ and Floyd, personally. Don't think we were going to be able to keep either this off-season.

McVay pretty much bid farewell to them and Hill in the interview.

 

[Merlin]

I just made the mistake of visiting our sub in reddit and holy fuck there are some stupid people there, a few here too.

Dude you wouldn't survive that lol.

 

[OldSchool]

Dude you wouldn't survive that lol.

I realized I hadn't drank enough tonight to go there other than the booty and booby thread. Took a u-turn and filled up the next glass of bourbon instead

 

[TXRams86]

If we can only keep our assistant coaches one year how can we expect to win?

Staley is a huge loss. Super disappointed. I knew he would go to the Chargers, though.

This is what pisses me off the most. Teams are coming after our assistant coaches like we’re winning the fucking Super Bowl year in and out. If this is what we have to look forward to every year we get to the playoffs then we better win the whole damn thing because the offseason is going to be brutal. Imagine being McVay and having to deal with all the stresses of being a head coach and then add knowing you’re going to lose key pieces of staff every damn year.

 

[jrry32]

Barring a few dropped passes and Lafleur not burning clock at the end Staley's top defense would have given up a 50 burger.

I personally wasn't a huge fan. He had some ideas that worked well but nothing that can't be duplicated.

His inability to adjust when the front 4 couldn't get pressure cost us games.

Not every team has an Aaron Donald and Jalen Ramsey.

I have to respectfully disagree. His scheme was impressive, as were his adjustments. Sometimes, the opposition is better. There's only so much you can do. Ultimately, players have to execute. He forced Green Bay to win using long, methodical drives. Our gamble was that they'd make a mistake.

The few times they made the mistakes, we either didn't execute or the ball didn't bounce our way. Our DBs dropped back to back picks in the end zone. We forced a fumble that bounced straight to Rodgers. Our defenders whiffed on multiple sack opportunities on Rodgers.

Simply put, without Donald anywhere near himself, it was going to be tough to stop the #1 offense. But it becomes that much harder when your guys don't execute. I watched him adjust to try and better stop the run in the second half. What happened? Green Bay started using play action to try and torch us deep. Rodgers missed a TD, Lazard dropped a TD, and then Lazard torched Hill for a TD.

The Packers were simply better on that day. We couldn't consistently stop the run with a light box like we have in the past, and when we started putting more players in the box, our CBs started to get beaten deep without their normal help.

I think we all remember Fangio and Belichick making McVay look the fool. Well, Staley got a taste of that from LaFleur. That's football. You can't win them all. IMO, the guy is still a genius, and I think he's going to be a good HC. I hope McVay has another Staley ready to go next year.

 

[PhillyRam]

Admittedly it is impossible to know what really happened from the outside, but I personally thought that some share of the blame for a season with chunks of ineffective offense lies with the coaches. Really with McVay since he's in charge.

Watching Green Bay was a reminder of what a precision offense looks like. Of course they have Rodgers, but the entire team was really crisp in its execution. We were too at times this year but not consistently. Not like when LaFleur was the Rams' OC. Of course that was a much better roster.

Might be good to bring in an OC from a diff system that can challenge some of McVay's principals and add some tweaks to his offense.

 

[PhillyRam]

It is the perfect situation for him. He has a game-changing pass rusher (Bosa), a stud safety (James), and a legit #1 CB (Hayward) to build around on defense, and he has a franchise QB on offense. Plus, he doesn't have to move his family, the Chargers have the cap room to sign some FAs, and they have picks.

The one big issue the Chargers have is the OL. Their OL wasn't good last year, and most of them are FAs. He's going to need to hire a great OL Coach and rebuild that unit. Might be a good spot for us to trade Noteboom.

Actually Havenstein... He is the costly one that may need to go to create cap room.

 

[jrry32]

Actually Havenstein... He is the costly one that may need to go to create cap room.

Nah. I'd rather keep Havenstein for his run blocking prowess.

 

[PhillyRam]

Nah. I'd rather keep Havenstein for his run blocking prowess.

Might not be able to.

 

[jrry32]

Might not be able to.

Unless the cap drops very significantly, I think we'll be okay. We'll move some money into future years. We only save $5 million cutting or trading Hav, so that's not something that will make or break us.

 

[XXXIVwin]

Fucking shit, I just got finished (on tape delay) watching Bucs-Saints and that asshole Tom Brady give another one of his "Aw shucks yeah I know Im fucking awesome" postgame interviews.

And now I have to read this crock of shit news.

Last 48 hours have been tough for Rams fans, mother fucker dipshit fuck

 

[TexasRam]

I have to respectfully disagree. His scheme was impressive, as were his adjustments. Sometimes, the opposition is better. There's only so much you can do. Ultimately, players have to execute. He forced Green Bay to win using long, methodical drives. Our gamble was that they'd make a mistake.

The few times they made the mistakes, we either didn't execute or the ball didn't bounce our way. Our DBs dropped back to back picks in the end zone. We forced a fumble that bounced straight to Rodgers. Our defenders whiffed on multiple sack opportunities on Rodgers.

Simply put, without Donald anywhere near himself, it was going to be tough to stop the #1 offense. But it becomes that much harder when your guys don't execute. I watched him adjust to try and better stop the run in the second half. What happened? Green Bay started using play action to try and torch us deep. Rodgers missed a TD, Lazard dropped a TD, and then Lazard torched Hill for a TD.

The Packers were simply better on that day. We couldn't consistently stop the run with a light box like we have in the past, and when we started putting more players in the box, our CBs started to get beaten deep without their normal help.

I think we all remember Fangio and Belichick making McVay look the fool. Well, Staley got a taste of that from LaFleur. That's football. You can't win them all. IMO, the guy is still a genius, and I think he's going to be a good HC. I hope McVay has another Staley ready to go next year.

100 agree the opposition personnel was better. But it's actually my exact point. He was a good coordinator that had his guys playing a solid scheme and that's it. There are some coordinators that can win on scheme alone. Such as the Miami game. Mcvay completely outcoached by a scheme he didn't expect and didn't have a counter for quick enough. He admitted as much in his postgame.

The great Coordinators can scheme up unexpected alignments and pressures to win games. Staley schemed up a conservative game plan that didn't work. They went after Hill all night and other weak points. You don't have to be a genius to se that coming.

Hindsight 2020 and I won't take away from his solid effort in the regular season. Staley did a great job. But I can also point to several games where his defense failed with his lack of aggressiveness.

Let's see how he does as a head coach. If he is a genius we should expect a compete turnaround for the Chargers.

 

[jrry32]

100 agree the opposition personnel was better. But it's actually my exact point. He was a good coordinator that had his guys playing a solid scheme and that's it. There are some coordinators that can win on scheme alone. Such as the Miami game. Mcvay completely outcoached by a scheme he didn't expect and didn't have a counter for quick enough. He admitted as much in his postgame.

The great Coordinators can scheme up unexpected alignments and pressures to win games. Staley schemed up a conservative game plan that didn't work. They went after Hill all night and other weak points. You don't have to be a genius to se that coming.

Hindsight 2020 and I won't take away from his solid effort in the regular season. Staley did a great job. But I can also point to several games where his defense failed with his lack of aggressiveness.

Let's see how he does as a head coach. If he is a genius we should expect a compete turnaround for the Chargers.

That's not it. He was a great coordinator who built a scheme around our stars, masked our weaknesses all year long, and led us to the #1 defense in the NFL (after we were an average defense last year). Sometimes, there isn't a counter. The other team is just better. LaFleur had a great gameplan and a better team. As for them going after Hill, the way to mask that is to give Hill help. But you can only do that if your front is stopping the run. Our front couldn't stop the run, so he adjusted to stop the run, and Hill couldn't hold up without the help.

Simply put, without Donald wrecking the game, we didn't have a way to counter what they were doing. If we gave the run defense help, that meant players like Hill had to hold up in coverage, and that obviously didn't happen. If we didn't give the run defense help, the Packers ran the ball down our throats. Sometimes, the opposition is just better. The Packers were better. No amount of smoke and mirrors were going to change that with Donald's injury.

 

[Deac]

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Barring a few dropped passes and Lafleur not burning clock at the end Staley's top defense would have given up a 50 burger.

I personally wasn't a huge fan. He had some ideas that worked well but nothing that can't be duplicated.

His inability to adjust when the front 4 couldn't get pressure cost us games.

Not every team has an Aaron Donald and Jalen Ramsey.

I have to respectfully disagree. His scheme was impressive, as were his adjustments. Sometimes, the opposition is better. There's only so much you can do. Ultimately, players have to execute. He forced Green Bay to win using long, methodical drives. Our gamble was that they'd make a mistake.

The few times they made the mistakes, we either didn't execute or the ball didn't bounce our way. Our DBs dropped back to back picks in the end zone. We forced a fumble that bounced straight to Rodgers. Our defenders whiffed on multiple sack opportunities on Rodgers.

Simply put, without Donald anywhere near himself, it was going to be tough to stop the #1 offense. But it becomes that much harder when your guys don't execute. I watched him adjust to try and better stop the run in the second half. What happened? Green Bay started using play action to try and torch us deep. Rodgers missed a TD, Lazard dropped a TD, and then Lazard torched Hill for a TD.

The Packers were simply better on that day. We couldn't consistently stop the run with a light box like we have in the past, and when we started putting more players in the box, our CBs started to get beaten deep without their normal help.

I think we all remember Fangio and Belichick making McVay look the fool. Well, Staley got a taste of that from LaFleur. That's football. You can't win them all. IMO, the guy is still a genius, and I think he's going to be a good HC. I hope McVay has another Staley ready to go next year.

I expected to see the defense that got McVay's attention in the first place. Tampa crushed the Packers using the single high safety, extra man on the line and blitzes. Green Bay basically runs the same offense as the 49ers. How many times does a team have to get beat by it before changing things up?

 

[jrry32]

I expected to see the defense that got McVay's attention in the first place. Tampa crushed the Packers using the single high safety, extra man on the line and blitzes. Green Bay basically runs the same offense as the 49ers. How many times does a team have to get beat by it before changing things up?

We'll see next week if Tampa can do it again. Something tells me Green Bay is going to be a lot more prepared for those sorts of looks. We haven't been a single-high defense all year. You adjust to your opponents, but in doing so, you don't abandon what you do best.

 

[ProGen]

Fuck....this has been a crappy weekend

Rams lose
Staley gone
Brady a game away from another SB appearance

 

[CGI_Ram]

The Chargers were the best landing spot, IMO. Lots of good pieces to work with, there.

For Staley, staying in the same city... gravy.

 

[IBruce80]

Damn it.
I've been holding out on all NFL related sites, incuding here, until I'd watched todays games.
Watched the games, came here, and spotted this thread.

Thought he'd hang around, but the Chargers with their star QB was too much to resist I guess.

 

[HX76]

Well this is a bit shit.