Roughing the passer.
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A player sacking a QB and landing on top of him isnt someone intentionally injuring a player its part of the game
neither is saying that stopping players intentionally hurting players is protecting the integrity of the game ..if someone wants to intentionally hurt a QB or any player they'll take the chance and rules and fines be damned.
this rule will cause mayhem ... especially as you can bet your bottom toms and drews and cams get the call mnore than your Daltons trubiskys and tannehills
That makes no sense. Players intentionally hurting other players does damage the integrity of the game. It's simply another form of cheating.
And Matthews has been playing dirty for years. I don't have a problem with them calling that roughing the passer on Matthews. The 'Rodgers' rule coming back to bite GB, and Matthews in particular, is karmic justice. Just don't call it on other defenders like you call it on Matthews.
This is what happens when Lawyers make the rules.
ReekofRams
Hall of Fame
If landing on a quarterback is, what you csll, intentionally trying to injure somone, then why is it okay to land on a RB or a WR without it being ruled as intentionally trying to injure someone? That's the way they've learned to tackle, and sometimes your momentum won't allow to avoid landing on top of them. That is not a dirty play, it's called tackling.
Every once in a great while when I was very young when a group of us were playing football a certain girl would get to play. And though she always said to treat as one of the boys, we always tackled her very carefully. So what I'm sensing is that the league now want the defense to view the QBs as girly, sissies, pansies, and wusses.
If defenders are going to be forced to arm tackle QB's, they need to limit QB's ability to break the tackle and continue the play.
If you ask me, until the NFL bans stiff arms to the head area, all of their minutia on how to safely tackle a QB is just fluff.
If you ask me, until the NFL bans stiff arms to the head area, all of their minutia on how to safely tackle a QB is just fluff.
Three hits of his on QB's were terrible and I can't stand him.
The hit on Keapernick, the hit on Wilson and the hit on Foles when he was with the Rams were just flat out dirty hits with the intent to injure.
He also got away with kneeing a player in the head that was already down while he acted like he was falling.
The same rules should apply to all the players. Making the rules different for different position players is going to cause a lot of problems. If you make landing on the QB a penalty it should apply to everyone playing on the field. And if they enforce that new rule to everyone, there's no more football as we know it.
I want to make 30 million a year.
But please don't let me get tackled.
I want to break all the passing records but please don't let the Defense try and stop me.
We don't need to keep a TE in to block. Just give us another rule to protect me and we can send 6 out in pass patterns
See I get paid a lot of dough. So you have to protect me I'm the reason people watch.
Here's a suggestion. Since all the rules are to score more points. Then let's help the D some. Let's put 12 men on the D to regain some balance.
But please don't let me get tackled.
I want to break all the passing records but please don't let the Defense try and stop me.
We don't need to keep a TE in to block. Just give us another rule to protect me and we can send 6 out in pass patterns
See I get paid a lot of dough. So you have to protect me I'm the reason people watch.
Here's a suggestion. Since all the rules are to score more points. Then let's help the D some. Let's put 12 men on the D to regain some balance.
RocknRam29
Live, Love, Laugh, & Learn
Badly implemented rules don't impugn the impetus for the rule.
The game is QB centric and many fans stop watching if their starting QB goes down.
And guys like Anthony Barr and Clay Matthews didn't help with their spearing and pile driving of the QBs.
As has happened in the past, including the whole "what is a catch" controversy, the NFL often has to iterate multiple times to figure out how to address an issue.
Their first attempt went sideways and they're already calling it different as we saw in our game (the Vikings didn't get a roughing for the late push on Goff, for example)
Also, QBs don't feel that way.
Derek Carr said of the William Hayes injury that he would have preferred Hayes landed on him rather than tear his ACL.
Other QBs have also been public in at the very least commiserating with defenders who were lost.
I honestly don't think a single QB has functioned like that.
Let me just say I get what they are trying to do.
The catch rule was fine the way it was. Ball touches the ground the result should be no catch.
The NFL keeps changing the essence of the game.
There are other ways to protect the players within reason without changing the game
NFL now using the Rams as examples of the right way to tackle the QB. My personal feelings on the rule aside, it's nice to see the Rams once again as a leader and not a follower on league trends.
View: https://twitter.com/TroyVincent23/status/1046392943420956672
View: https://twitter.com/TroyVincent23/status/1046392943420956672
Yup. Not gentle, but not pounding them into the turf with the DT on top of them. Showing you can still do a football hit, and stay within the rules.
BonifayRam
Legend
Rams show rest of league the right way to take down a quarterback
Posted by Mike Florio on September 30, 2018, 9:50 AM EDT
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.c...gue-the-right-way-to-take-down-a-quarterback/
While the NFL’s roughing-the-passer rules continue to be unsettled and uncertain (more on that in a bit), here’s one thing that is settled and certain: The best team in the NFL has provided the best examples of getting a quarterback to the ground without also landing on top of him.
NFL executive V.P. of football operations Troy Vincent has posted a video with three sacks from Thursday night’s Vikings-Rams game, a game that included no fouls for quarterback hits. And it’s easy to see why, when watching the video.
Twice, Rams defensive tackle Aaron Donald approaches Vikings quarterback Kirk Cousins. Instead of laying on Cousins or executing the scoop-and-dump maneuver (either of which are aimed at compressing the chest and/or busting a shoulder), Donald struck Cousins from the side and rolled him to the ground. On the other play, Rams defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh, one of the most-fined players in recent years, used the same technique.
The most frequently asked question the last three weeks: How do you tackle the passer? Your answer from @RamsNFL @AaronDonald97 and @NdamukongSuh on #TNF #NFLWaytoPlay #NFLgameday pic.twitter.com/KYdgHhWbaL
— Troy Vincent (@TroyVincent23) September 30, 2018
That’s not a mistake or a coincidence. It’s coached, practiced, and planned. And it keeps quarterbacks from being crushed, injured, and ultimately unable to play possibly for weeks.
The overriding goal is clear: The NFL wants exciting games, and the NFL knows that exciting games won’t happen if backup quarterbacks are playing. If fans are going to be complaining about anything, it’s better that they complain about too many flags than not enough games worth watching, because too many substandard signal-callers are on the field playing.