Roughing the passer.

[Psycho_X]

Lol, remember saying something to this effect in the gameday thread that Donald was giving the NFL great film to show other teams on how to sack the QB.

 

[OldSchool]

The NFL just blew up the arguments for this increased scrutiny on defensive players by calling this.


View: https://twitter.com/RichEisenShow/status/1046499451676704768


Sorry the NFL has lost any credibility by calling that roughing the passer. Don't even try to justify it.

 

[-X-]

The NFL just blew up the arguments for this increased scrutiny on defensive players by calling this.


View: https://twitter.com/RichEisenShow/status/1046499451676704768


Sorry the NFL has lost any credibility by calling that roughing the passer. Don't even try to justify it.

Wow.

They should just call that encroaching upon the QB's personal space.

 

[EastRam]

The NFL wants viewers/viewership.

They don't give a shit about Fans.

Fans not needed just viewers.

 

[Mackeyser]

The NFL just blew up the arguments for this increased scrutiny on defensive players by calling this.


View: https://twitter.com/RichEisenShow/status/1046499451676704768


Sorry the NFL has lost any credibility by calling that roughing the passer. Don't even try to justify it.

I don’t agree with it but he lowered his head and made helmet to helmet contact.

Much as the NFL doesn’t want to parse hits like the Matthews hits, they couldn’t have been more clear how seriously they are taking this.

Lower your head? Get the flag, no is ands or buts.

 

[OldSchool]

I don’t agree with it but he lowered his head and made helmet to helmet contact.

Much as the NFL doesn’t want to parse hits like the Matthews hits, they couldn’t have been more clear how seriously they are taking this.

Lower your head? Get the flag, no is ands or buts.

Just stop it's sad at this point. Every other NFL fan seems to be offended with these calls.

 

[Angry Ram]

The NFL just blew up the arguments for this increased scrutiny on defensive players by calling this.


View: https://twitter.com/RichEisenShow/status/1046499451676704768


Sorry the NFL has lost any credibility by calling that roughing the passer. Don't even try to justify it.

Yeah that one is dumb. Maybe that ref saw helmet to helmet but it shouldn't been called.

 

[Mackeyser]

Just stop it's sad at this point. Every other NFL fan seems to be offended with these calls.

 

[kurtfaulk]

I don’t agree with it but he lowered his head and made helmet to helmet contact.

that's what i thought initially but i'm not sure he did. looks like he hits shoulder to shoulder. baker's helmet doesn't move at all.

just refs having no sense.

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[Ramlock]

Lol, remember saying something to this effect in the gameday thread that Donald was giving the NFL great film to show other teams on how to sack the QB.

Textbook

They should pay AD to tour the league cities in the summer giving clinics!

 

[Akrasian]

that's what i thought initially but i'm not sure he did. looks like he hits shoulder to shoulder. baker's helmet doesn't move at all.

just refs having no sense.

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Well, it moved a little - at least his whole head slanted over immediately afterward. A ticky tack foul perhaps, but by the rules a foul nevertheless. And had to be called at full speed, not slomo replay. It would create other issues, but perhaps all personal fouls should be reviewed from headquarters by satellite. But I'm sure if officials don't call something like that on the field, they have the riot act read to them in their reviews.

 

[SeminoleRam]

Can we be expecting a NFFL (National Flag Football League) to be replacing the exististing NFL? Okay, I know that is not going to happen but that call was just down right RIDICULOUS (And, I am NOT a Raiders Fan!)!!!

 

[Mackeyser]

Yes it’s ridiculous.

AND the NFL has made clear, repeatedly, that they are going to call lowering the head, ESPECIALLY against a QB, every time.

We can be unhappy, but I’m glad that our DC is teaching our players how to play within how the game is being called.

 

[1maGoh]

Well, it moved a little - at least his whole head slanted over immediately afterward. A ticky tack foul perhaps, but by the rules a foul nevertheless. And had to be called at full speed, not slomo replay. It would create other issues, but perhaps all personal fouls should be reviewed from headquarters by satellite. But I'm sure if officials don't call something like that on the field, they have the riot act read to them in their reviews.

By "have the riot act read to them in their reviews" do you mean absolutely nothing being said to them during a non-existent process because there is no accountability for the refs whatsoever? I feel like that's what you meant, but the text leaves it open to interpretation.

 

[Akrasian]

By "have the riot act read to them in their reviews" do you mean absolutely nothing being said to them during a non-existent process because there is no accountability for the refs whatsoever? I feel like that's what you meant, but the text leaves it open to interpretation.

I meant what I wrote. Despite what some falsely claim, they do get reviewed on every play. https://operations.nfl.com/the-officials/these-officials-are-really-good/

Now, you may not feel there is enough punishment, but among other things, which officials and crews work playoff games is based on reviews and trainings. And what the officials' role is the subsequent season is based at least partially on reviews.

I agree it could be better, but it's utter ignorant bs to say that there are no reviews and no accountability.

 

[1maGoh]

I meant what I wrote. Despite what some falsely claim, they do get reviewed on every play. https://operations.nfl.com/the-officials/these-officials-are-really-good/

Now, you may not feel there is enough punishment, but among other things, which officials and crews work playoff games is based on reviews and trainings. And what the officials' role is the subsequent season is based at least partially on reviews.

I agree it could be better, but it's utter ignorant bs to say that there are no reviews and no accountability.

Wow. You reacted kind of strongly there. I was sort of mostly joking.

First, I know there's a review process. If the results of that review process says they're doing a good job, that process is a joke.

Second, the article you referenced admitted that they were accurate on 95-97% of plays. 95% means they were wrong on 2000 plays a season. That's a huge number.

Third, they don't define what "wrong" is. That makes their statement about how much they get right meaningless.

Fourth, they list remediation and demotion as consequences, and then casually drop that they are on year to year contacts as if bad officials get dropped. What about guys like Jeff Triplett or the other awful ref whose name I've forgotten (I think 2 or 3 of the worst retired after last year)? They were being terrible year after year after year. Not a damn thing done. So they can take their claims of remediation, demotion, and potentially not being brought back and shove them.

Their "review process" is probably closer to them having a few beers before turning on a highlight reel of their worry calls for the season and laughing their asses off at what they got away with than it is to any kind of meaningful evaluation process with consequences.

Without any real actions, I can't just take them at their word that they are reviewing and punishing accordingly. What would believing that be based on? Their word? Absolutely not. They can *say* that they are punishing poor performers and getting them out all they want, but we don't actually see that. Why? They say the officiating is great. We know for a fact that that's a lie. Which would make the supposed value and function of their review process... Also a lie.

 

[Psycho_X]

View: https://twitter.com/LindseyThiry/status/1047963642438668289

 

[Ken]

It was a foul by the current rules. I don't have a problem with the call, but the rules (and the 'points' they are emphasizing) could use some adjustments.

 

[nimite]

View: https://twitter.com/TommySledge/status/1048016466170339328

 

[OldSchool]

Last night just made this even more of a joke, a bad joke at that, than it already was.