Veltung cannot be replaced by a shrimp.Ramrasta talking shit about my man Veltung:
I don't have a problem giving this guy a chance. Maybe now we won't need to have Veltung returning our kicks.
Like to see the Rams trade up after a trade down in 1st. to get Dennard! He's the replacement for Finnegan!I would really rather add Dennard in the draft. I like Joyner but he and Reid are very similar. I think we need some size on the back end of our D.
Thanks for all the info.I don't think he has ever played free safety in his career (even HS), so he is most likely a nickel corner or bust on defense. At FSU his sophomore year he played CB opposite Xavier Rhodes (2013 1st Rd pick and current Minnesota Viking) and I only remember him losing a 1-on-1 jump ball once in his career (against Michael Floyd - 2012 1st Rd pick and current Arizona Cardinal 1000+ yd receiver) where he played the ball as perfect as possible and actually out-jumped the 6'2" Floyd to get both hands on the ball, but Floyd showed his strength and ripped it away. Here's a link to that play and you can see his ball skills/timing and leaping ability. He lands on his head and it knocks him out, but it shows he will give all he has to make a play, and when he fails it is not for lack of effort. That play really epitomizes Reid as a defender- great instincts and ball skills and timing that can put him in the right position to succeed. But if 5'8" and 6'2" both time it right, then 6'2" wins more often than not.
You basically hit on everything else. He definitely will have a following from FSU fans who watched him, so don't be surprised to see a few attending FSU fans in the stadium hold up the "5 fingers" symbol (for his jersey #5 or nickname "G5") when he goes back for a punt. If you have 10 minutes and want to get a good idea of his on-field demeanor, instincts, and field vision check out some of his youtube highlights (he has a lot, but here are links to his Freshman and Sophomore years and a short one of his Junior year at FSU). In high school he just dominated the biggest HS classification in Georgia, and was also voted Player of the Decade (for 2000-2010) by state coaches/media (including over current NFL'ers Eric Berry, Cameron Heyward, etc.).
Basically he has been very, very good at every level of competition thus far. NFL offenses will try to prey on his lack of height and top gear (like college offenses did), but he has mostly been able to win one-on-one jump balls despite this by using excellent timing and instincts. If he is plugged into a system that nullifies those weaknesses (ie. as a Nickel corner close to the line of scrimmage, minimizing the risk of jump balls vs. taller, stronger receivers) he could be excellent and a potential game-changer down the line.
Eh? Since when does size matter for a returner?Veltung cannot be replaced by a shrimp.
Just saying.
With possibilities.....All this guy is a early UDFA signing. At his peak a couple years ago before he tore his ACL he was at best a late round pick or more likely a UDFA. He's too small to play safety, and is even small for a nickle.
Let him come to camp and compete. You never know with a year on the PS he might be ready. I just don't see him pushing Tru or JJ day one of camp.
Veltung cannot be replaced by a shrimp.
Just saying.
I think you covered it amigo, if Reid stays healthy I believe we just robbed a cookie jarHey guys, signed up to give a first-hand take. The reason interest in Greg Reid picked up was due to FSU's Pro Day last week, where several scouts pegged him as the best corner there (over L. Joyner and T. Brooks). He was coming off a year of rehab and no team had seen him live yet. Last week was the first time with over 70 scouts and a half-dozen head coaches in attendance in Tallahassee.
I watched Reid from HS throughout college, and attended FSU while he was there. Greg has a competitive fire that is contagious to teammates and fans, and definitely has the swagger of a prize fighter. Pre-injury speaking, Reid (affectionately known as G5) was absolutely electric as a punt returner. Electric. So-so as a cornerback (again, based on 2012 play), but a dynamite return man. If he makes the 53-man squad it will most likely be as a punt return specialist and situational nickel-corner. Watch him return punts and you will see true fearlessness, as he has the pure instincts necessary to know when to field it or let it go, how to make the first guy miss, and where to run after that. He made huge returns when games were in the balance, and saved us literally hundreds of yards in field position by catching punts on the bounce or while running full speed to fair catch it before it bounces another 20 yards. That dependency alone is worthy of a job in the NFL, but his elite quickness (even for the NFL) allows him to pick up yardage on nearly every return, even when surrounded. He's gifted, a natural, any word you can conjure up where the perfect mental makeup meets the perfect tools necessary to succeed.
As a cornerback - it's a mixed bag. He's undersized and lacks the top end speed to hang with deep threats (4.5ish speed). But his quickness, ball skills, and instincts makes him a natural Nickel corner tasked with mirroring the slot. In run support he has a tendency to go for the big hit and not wrap up. In my opinion, it's his "Go Big or Go Home" mindset that causes this, and it shows with either a missed tackle or a forced fumble off a monster hit (See Marcus Lattimore @ the Chick-fil-a Bowl).
As a person, he was booted from FSU for multiple weed violations. He then tore his ACL and went undrafted. He basically hit rock bottom and finally realized he could do still live his dream if he straightened out and worked hard. All evidence points to him doing just that. He was and still is an FSU fan favorite. I hope this sheds some light on who G5 can be for the Rams, and I'll answer any questions if I can.
We're Ram fans, what do you expect???You know we're a desperate bunch when one UDFA gets 90 replies!!
We're Ram fans, what do you expect???![]()
Your logic is unassailable and I'm changing my stance to "Veltung cannot be replaced by anyone". There, good to go now.jjab360 with a persuasive argument:
Eh? Since when does size matter for a returner?
Obviously, we have a pretty prime example to the contrary already on our team in TA, but he's just one example of many around the league.
Veltung is chock full of intangibles. I'd go into more detail but as they're intangibles they're not, you know, tangible.Ramrasta blind to his intangibles:
I'm not saying Veltung is terrible but he just isn't an all-star.
What kind of compromising pictures does that kid have on you Alan? Are THEY tangible?Veltung is chock full of intangibles. I'd go into more detail but as they're intangibles they're not, you know, tangible.
I want his jersey too. When it becomes available that is.
EXACTLY!!!It's what the ones who don't get thrown off the team are doing that worries me.