Rams select Stetson Bennett (QB) with the 128th pick.

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There’s no guarantee he’ll stick on. I just think that if you’re in college for six/seven years, and you didn’t care enough to get a degree, you deserve to be called an idiot.
Except he didn't go to college to get a degree. He went to play football and get drafted into the NFL. And he did.

If that's considered being an idiot then wth are we, talking about him as a fan on an online forum?
 

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McVay said it right after the draft. That it was LaFleur and Robinson that targeted Stetson from the very beginning. All he said at that time was he liked his throwing motion. That's a far cry from what he said about Mayfield as someone he followed and liked. Stetson doesn't have the arm for McVay's normal scheme. Too many of his deep throws are rainbows and make the WR adjust. Go ahead and watch his pro day, many of his throws were catches because of the WR adjusting, which he might not be able to do in actual coverage.

That said, in a more normal offense, being able to drive the ball 20 yards with accuracy is really all you need. You do that and the WR will often get good YAC. I think Stetson will be a very good backup, but I simply don't see him making the throws in the way that Goff or Stafford can. I think Stetson is viewed as being a decent backup and a future comp pick or trade bait.

IMO Snead and McVay have targeted a QB in next year's draft that will be their future QB1. I've said in other posts, that if the Rams didn't get a clear future QB1 in this draft, that future franchise QB would probably be targeted next year. I don't think McVay or Snead sees Stafford playing beyond 2024. I think they saw that when they extended him and the contract is structured that way. It's also obvious that Stafford understands that and wants those 2 years to make another run at a second Lombardi.

As long as the Rams have a healthy Stafford and Kupp their offense is dangerous enough to make a run. Their defense simply needs to be in the top half of the ratings, not the bottom half where Morris dropped it.
Here is the actual interview and even though McVay mentions the others he did not say Bennett was their pick.

 

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One of his first when he talked about a team jumping in front of them to grab Haener, he said that Bennett was always their target as he was Robinson's and LaFleur's choice. That is when McVay simply mentions that he has a nice "stroke" i.e. passing motion. This isn't the interview I saw initially but in the interview with Camryn Irwin he mentions how Robinson and Lafluer picked him and it was always Bennett as their choice. McVay isn't going to talk him down. He will wait and see how coachable he is and just how good his talent is. I have always contended that arm strength can be improved. A lot of that same arm strength stuff was said about Drew Brees who intentionally worked to strengthen his arm after the draft. McVay knows that physical traits can be developed. It's the mental toughness that of anything is the part that might impress Sean.

“When you identify a guy that’s got a lot of the traits and characteristics that you look for and you’re able to get him when we did, that was something we had kind of targeted from the jump. It worked out the way that we hoped,” McVay said on Saturday. “Being able to move back yesterday allowed us to get that fourth-round pick, and that was always our thought in mind, to be able to use that on Stetson.”


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kvWrAR5j0k
 

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There’s no guarantee he’ll stick on. I just think that if you’re in college for six/seven years, and you didn’t care enough to get a degree, you deserve to be called an idiot.
If thought what it takes to be a champion,then yes being an idiot is not all that bad.

 
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One of the biggest reasons I don't see Bennett as the future franchise QB in LA is because he needs a whole lot of work on reading defenses. Too many times it seems he fixates on his early LOS read presnap and waits too long or tries to force it. He's almost too much of a gunslinger who is looking for the splash play and doesn't see or won't take what is given. Until he learns how to go through his progressions and better anticipate his throws he could end up being a turnover machine. McVay's current system is read heavy which is why Goff struggled because Sean refused to give him the time to read by holding him in the huddle until the last 15 seconds. It's why Goff is thriving in a more conventional offense where he reads and takes what is given to move the sticks.

On film, you can see the inconsistent accuracy of his deep throws which were on full display in his private workouts. That is why he dropped in the draft IMO. The Rams unlike most teams pick guys with traits they want in a particular position. The Rams assume they can develop them into the players they need. It's not right or wrong it's simply the way the Rams work. Bennett would have much more success in a more conventional offense. But because of his age after being on the Rams for 3-4 years he might not have the opportunity.

That's why as a backup QB he will be coming in under pressure so being able to handle pressure situations is a huge consideration, above all other considerations. That is why McVay has consistently pointed that out about Bennett and why I think Bennett will be very good in that role.
 

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I love it when draft analysis says a player was a “reach”. Nobody sat behind their keyboard in their mum’s basement is privy to the intel that NFL draft rooms have, let alone the analytics and data.

Saying that a player was a reach is just throwing their toys out of the pram and tantamount to saying that their big board is better than the pros’.

You’re right, nobody but the Pros could have predicted Tutu’s 2 Pro Bowls and 1 All Pro selection….. ohhhh wait I think that was Creed.

Guess all the info the “ pros” have got this pick right and all the others one right huh?

Makes me laugh when people laugh at others enjoying the draft.

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One of the biggest reasons I don't see Bennett as the future franchise QB in LA is because he needs a whole lot of work on reading defenses. Too many times it seems he fixates on his early LOS read presnap and waits too long or tries to force it. He's almost too much of a gunslinger who is looking for the splash play and doesn't see or won't take what is given. Until he learns how to go through his progressions and better anticipate his throws he could end up being a turnover machine. McVay's current system is read heavy which is why Goff struggled because Sean refused to give him the time to read by holding him in the huddle until the last 15 seconds. It's why Goff is thriving in a more conventional offense where he reads and takes what is given to move the sticks.

On film, you can see the inconsistent accuracy of his deep throws which were on full display in his private workouts. That is why he dropped in the draft IMO. The Rams unlike most teams pick guys with traits they want in a particular position. The Rams assume they can develop them into the players they need. It's not right or wrong it's simply the way the Rams work. Bennett would have much more success in a more conventional offense. But because of his age after being on the Rams for 3-4 years he might not have the opportunity.

That's why as a backup QB he will be coming in under pressure so being able to handle pressure situations is a huge consideration, above all other considerations. That is why McVay has consistently pointed that out about Bennett and why I think Bennett will be very good in that role.

It's really hard judging college QBs coming out to the pros because even if you go to Alabama or some other top college, it often happens where your receivers are so much faster and better than their opponents that it doesn't take much talent to throw a pass into a huge window or where the DB is trailing the receiver by 5 yards or more because of a speed disparity.
 

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I just happened upon it today (Sunday) take a look at part two of Kurt Warner's breakdown of Stetson. He illustrates how Bennett either doesn't see because he doesn't go through his progressions or simply doesn't take the open receiver option. Yes, Stetson has talent but his penchant for the splash play gets him in trouble at times and he forces passes that in the NFL will end up INTs. All while ignoring or not seeing open receivers (indicative of not going through his progressions). Those are the inconsistencies more than any supposed lack of physical talent that will sink his career. Look at Kyler Murray he has no clue how to go through progressions. His idea of reading is one presnap read then either a handoff or a run or maybe a short quick pass.

If Bennett will accept coaching and become a more structured and disciplined player he can have a pretty good career in the NFL. If not his future is questionable a this level. I want him to succeed because the Rams need a good backup. Also, if he does he might impress McVay enough to have a shot at being the successor to Stafford. If not well it's way to early to think about that. So I give him the benefit of the doubt that he will be a successful backup then let the chips fall where they may.
 

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I don't see any S2 cognition score for Mr S. Bennet.

If this test is an accurate predictor of QB success then the results certainly bode well for Mr B. Young's outlook as he scored as well as anyone ever has.
 

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The problem with Leinart is that he wanted to party instead of playing football.

He pisses me off because he could have been a decent QB in the NFL if he would have pushed himself to be better.

I guess there are a lot of players like that.
Point is, winning a National Championship means literally nothing as it pertains to a QB's NFL potential.
Heck, its probably the opposite considering only 2 QB have won a National Championship and a Superbowl
 

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Point is, winning a National Championship means literally nothing as it pertains to a QB's NFL potential.
Heck, its probably the opposite considering only 2 QB have won a National Championship and a Superbowl
This is true. But ironically playing with top players around them and having time to throw inevitably benefits these guys greatly. Look at Tua and Young, neither of whom would be top group picks if they had played with poor talent around them.

Or look at the other end of the spectrum with Levis being pressured more than Young and Stroud combined. Teams know this and that he was running a pro offense too but all they can see are the mistakes.

I think the team around them matters massively in showing what they can do.
 

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Yeah, what an idiot. He will probably only make 10-20 million as a backup QB in the NFL. Imagine what he could have been with that <insert useless degree here> on his resume....
What if he doesn't make the team and his contract his cancelled or even worse get a leg or arm injury and becomes a shell of himself.

Then what can he fall back on?

I feel all college football players should get their degree to make sure they can fall back on something.
 

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What if he doesn't make the team and his contract his cancelled or even worse get a leg or arm injury and becomes a shell of himself.

Then what can he fall back on?

I feel all college football players should get their degree to make sure they can fall back on something.
Then he goes back and finishes.
 

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Then he goes back and finishes.
With what money?

He doesn't have the football scholarship money anymore

This goes for all college football players not just Stetson

Or if they leave after 3 years, they better have a back-up plan if they get hurt or not drafted
 

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McVay is a smart guy, I think we all agree, so why would he draft a backup QB in the 4th round? Teams that have a legit QB, usually get their back ups in 6th or 7th, even undrafted. Or why not keep Wolford for another season, if its all about a high draft choice next draft?

Teams that draft well, or are plain lucky can get potential starters in the forth round, so why would McVay waste a pick?

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With what money?

He doesn't have the football scholarship money anymore

This goes for all college football players not just Stetson

Or if they leave after 3 years, they better have a back-up plan if they get hurt or not drafted
I should also add that a lot of college football players are idiots due to not completing their degree

I hear stories all the time of college players not having a degree and never making the NFL and having nothing to fall back on.