Rams facilities shut down by league due to COVID

[Q729]

This thread reminds me of Thanksgiving at the inlaws.

And yet I can't keep myself from reading what happens next.

 

[PhillyRam]

This thread reminds me of Thanksgiving at the inlaws.

Believe it or not, I can argue both sides of this. I have a brother-in-law who refuses to get it. He is 62 and should get it. I try to tell him that he should, but not because I fear him, but for his own good and it would crush his 90 yr old mom if something happened to him. But hey, it's his life, his choice

 

[PhillyRam]

I get all my info from Alex Jones, CNN and Facebook so I'm an expert, but I'm pretty sure vaccinated people (or those with the natural antibodies) shed the virus much quicker, which usually results in them infecting others less.

Well, looking at the Rams and other teams, that seems hard to believe right now.

 

[PhillyRam]

My son is 23 and got the shot because his girlfriend's mom is fighting cancer, but after reading many instances of young people suffering from some heart issues after getting the vax, I was a little uneasy about it.

 

[Classic Rams]

If the vax works then people who want the protection can get it and won't have to worry about getting hospitalized. If it doesn't work then what's the point?

This is year 2 of the pandemic, do some people want another year of the same bullshit in 2022? The stuff keeps mutating. Get vaxxed and let's end this nonsense. My favorites are the ones who say no way the vax wasn't tested and then they go for the horse dewormer!! Just stop listening to idiots like Marjorie and Rogan. People don't want to follow the CDC guidelines but they'll follow those dimwits? It's pure comedy.

Btw the heart issues were reportedly from J&J.

 

[Kupped]

Do you say the same about people who are obese? The biggest factor in hospitalization's regarding Covid or most diseases is obesity.

Should obese people not benefit from our public health system? How about smokers? Drug addicts? How about any bad habit that effects your health?

Maybe we should have panels who decide who is worthy of care?

Starting to sound like having overlord's doesn't it?

Be careful of the slippery slope you want us to head down.

None of those are communicable diseases.
What workplace these days allow smoking?

I would say that I'm discussing a communicable disease in a pandemic, not your personal lifestyle choices.

 

[Zodi]

Well, looking at the Rams and other teams, that seems hard to believe right now.

Look at the sky right now. Would you believe it isn't black all the time? Just because you don't see things a certain way doesn't mean they can't be true.

Vaccines dropped the R0 number of the non-variant virus from 5 to somewhere around 1.5 I believe.

 

[PhillyRam]

This is year 2 of the pandemic, do some people want another year of the same bullshit in 2022? The stuff keeps mutating. Get vaxxed and let's end this nonsense. My favorites are the ones who say no way the vax wasn't tested and then they go for the horse dewormer!! Just stop listening to idiots like Marjorie and Rogan. People don't want to follow the CDC guidelines but they'll follow those dimwits? It's pure comedy.

Whose to say when a vaxed person gets the virus that it won't mutate?

And BTW, the CDC has constantly changed its views. Originally a vaxed person could no longer get infected. They stated that. Obviously that was wrong.

A little history of what we have been told. Who knows what will be the story 6 months from now.


View: https://twitter.com/JamesMelville/status/1461750873445568515?t=3XkhHwvp4ZNec_RTH-FGJw&s=19

 

[Classic Rams]

Some are still not getting it. I can see where the keeping up and the reading of the news may have fallen short. I just had to say my say and I'm out before thread lock. Bill Burr has a funny take on the subject. Back to the Rams - Cardinals replay for me. AZ fans are a bunch of mouth breathing crayon eaters lol. You all have a safe holiday.

Go Rams!!!!!!!!!

 

[Angry Ram]

Some are still not getting it. I can see where the keeping up and the reading of the news may have fallen short. I just had to say my say and I'm out before thread lock. Bill Burr has a funny take on the subject. Back to the Rams - Cardinals replay for me. AZ fans are a bunch of mouth breathing crayon eaters lol. You all have a safe holiday.

Go Rams!!!!!!!!!

They never will, so that's why I'm past it. Do whatever you want just don't act/talk like you know something the people that study this extensively (not just attend Google Search University or Twitter Technical Institute) don't. I for one, though, don't want to have to buy a freakin oxygen monitor to check my levels. So whatever. Doubled vaxed. Boosted. No problems. So there.

 

[blackbart]

And I feel if you choose not to, you don't get to benefit from things like the public health system and a society that creates safe work environments, in great part, from that.

Pretty simple, as you would say.

Sort of like nazi Germany, show me your papers, now get on the train.

If the vaccines are safe why can’t big pharma be sued by the people who are harmed by the vaccine.

Why are new variants spreading in countries touting 95% vaccinated populace?

What happen to two weeks to flatten the curve?

Why did Fauci give money to the Wuhan lab to do cross functional testing?

What happened to the protests in China that were going in just before the outbreak?

Why are the Seahawks being allowed to practice?

Mandates are not laws and the Constitution does not give the federal government many of they powers they have taken.

I’ll be in the control group and my dna will not be altered.

Go Rams

 

[Kupped]

Sort of like nazi Germany, show me your papers, now get on the train.

If the vaccines are safe why can’t big pharma be sued by the people who are harmed by the virus.

Why are new variants spreading in countries touting 95% vaccinated populace?

What happen to two weeks to flatten the curve?

Why did Fauci give money to the Wuhan lab to do cross functional testing?

What happened to the protests in China that were going in just before the outbreak?

Why are the Seahawks being allowed to practice?

Mandates are not laws and the Constitution does not give the federal government many of they powers they have taken.

I’ll be in the control group and my dna will not be altered.

Go Rams

Take care.

 

[blackbart]

Take care.

Nothing but the best Rams Bro, for you and all of us. We deserve a break!

 

[Shuie3225]

But it TREMENDOUSLY reduces your chance of getting COVID

There is no way you actually believe this anymore. There is quality data that shows it prevents against serious illness and death, but the narrative that being vaccinated reduces your chances of getting COVID and spreading it are completely misleading. I would suggest looking at data from outside US media sources. Try Israel, India, the UK, and Italy. One of the biggest points of contention with this whole pandemic and why it's been politicized so much is because people no longer trust the information coming from US gov sources and/or media. And the more you dig into this the more deception you find - especially with the CDC and FDA both having multiple senior executives as tenured board members on both Moderna and Pfizer. Also last week the FDA just came out and said it needs 75 years to release the Pfizer COVID vaccine data to the public? 75 years??

FYI I am someone who leans left politically and supported vaccination + boosters a year ago and made sure my family got vaccinated. But the more you look into this situation objectively and aggregate info from multiple outlets, you start to see an unsettling trend that appears that many people on both sides are waking up to.

 

[PhillyRam]

None of those are communicable diseases.
What workplace these days allow smoking?

I would say that I'm discussing a communicable disease in a pandemic, not your personal lifestyle choices.

Well the argument that I have heard a lot about this was that unvaxed people take up hospital beds so they should not be allowed to fill them up. And thus should not benefit or should be last on the list for taking up healthcare resources.

Well same could be said about obese people or smokers etc...

 

[Kupped]

There is no way you actually believe this anymore. There is quality data that shows it prevents against serious illness and death, but the narrative that being vaccinated reduces your chances of getting COVID and spreading it are completely misleading. I would suggest looking at data from outside US media sources. Try Israel, India, the UK, and Italy. One of the biggest points of contention with this whole pandemic and why it's been politicized so much is because people no longer trust the information coming from US gov sources and/or media. And the more you dig into this the more deception you find - especially with the CDC and FDA both having multiple senior executives as tenured board members on both Moderna and Pfizer. Also last week the FDA just came out and said it needs 75 years to release the Pfizer COVID vaccine data to the public? 75 years??

FYI I am someone who leans left politically and supported vaccination + boosters a year ago and made sure my family got vaccinated. But the more you look into this situation objectively and aggregate info from multiple outlets, you start to see an unsettling trend that appears that many people on both sides are waking up to.

I very much still believe that.

 

[Q729]

The thing with science is it's constantly evolving. The more data gathered, the more discoveries are made. The CDC or any other agency based on science would love to wait until they had enough data to come up with something more solid, but the public is impatient. We want answers now, so they're forced to come up with something to appease them, not to mention having to counter all the misinformation jumbling up things even more. So yes, guidance is going to change constantly. It would be foolish to stick to outdated models based on early limited data when they have more complete data right in front of their faces telling them otherwise.

 

[Kupped]

Well the argument that I have heard a lot about this was that unvaxed people take up hospital beds so they should not be allowed to fill them up. And thus should not benefit or should be last on the list for taking up healthcare resources.

Well same could be said about obese people or smokers etc...

Yeah, I wouldn't deny someone care.

Now, insurers? If you're obese or you smoke, you're probably paying more.

 

[PhillyRam]

There is no way you actually believe this anymore. There is quality data that shows it prevents against serious illness and death, but the narrative that being vaccinated reduces your chances of getting COVID and spreading it are completely misleading. I would suggest looking at data from outside US media sources. Try Israel, India, the UK, and Italy. One of the biggest points of contention with this whole pandemic and why it's been politicized so much is because people no longer trust the information coming from US gov sources and/or media. And the more you dig into this the more deception you find - especially with the CDC and FDA both having multiple senior executives as tenured board members on both Moderna and Pfizer. Also last week the FDA just came out and said it needs 75 years to release the Pfizer COVID vaccine data to the public? 75 years??

FYI I am someone who leans left politically and supported vaccination + boosters a year ago and made sure my family got vaccinated. But the more you look into this situation objectively and aggregate info from multiple outlets, you start to see an unsettling trend that appears that many people on both sides are waking up to.

Yes, we are getting used to being in a constant pandemic that will never go away. The media hypes up every variant and case numbers even though hospitalizations is not an issue. You see hyped reports of 85% of ICU beds are filled, etc... but that is normal. Hospital's don't have empty ICU's. They don't waste rooms and space.

It's like Covid is ratings gold for the media and the govt uses it as an excuse for their own policy failures. So those in power like the status quo.

 

[jacktheripper85]

Btw the heart issues were reportedly from J&J.