Rams contract restructures + FA/draft targets

[Mojo Ram]

please define ”hime“ and “wroth“.

I thought of this guy

 

[Loyal]

I thought of this guy

bastids....

 

[Loyal]

We need to release Mike Florio, immediately.

 

[Mojo Ram]

bastids....

 

[MachS]

SJD has been an ascending player the last few years and I expect him to continue to improve. Gains has flashed in the middle and should continue to improve. And we didn't see the best of A'shawn Robinson last year. He missed time, came back sluggish, and didn't really find his form until very late in the year. He should be much improved and could be the best NT we have next year. IMO we're fine on the inside. Maybe draft a NT with a late round pick and try to develop. But edge is much more important to me. Especially with T Lewis a complete question mark.

I think we sign a FA interior o-lineman and cut Havenstein with Evans starting outside. We wont sign JJ, maybe we sign Floyd but I doubt it. There are numerous great edge FAs available, and we could get a comp pick if we lose Floyd. I think that's been our strategy. Sign someone similar and a bit cheaper, and gain the comp pick.

We wont sign an ILB, no reason to with Kaiser and Reeder. But I still want us to sign Marvin Jones or Agholar at WR too.

 

[dang]

Getting above 50 Million in cap space looks very doable... If so...bringing back Floyd, JJ and Williams will be very doable.

5 moves Rams can make to create $50 million in cap space

The Rams are way over the cap right now, but they can create an abundance of cap space with five moves.

theramswire.usatoday.com

So making all 5 of these moves would put the Rams $15-$25m under the cap. So at $15m the Rams cannot even bring Williams (@$4m and a must have), Floyd (@$13m) and Mundt (@$1m and a probable) back. So let’s try to decide which FAs the Rams should bring back and see if there is any $$$ left for outside FAs. My guess is there will be little to no $$$. Stafford WAS the splash FA. No $$$ for any other splash FAs IMO.

 

[Neil039]

Ye olde English, spaeketh by thy Master Loyal shall henceforth be thine language embraced by the children of the frostiest countenance...

I have so many typos. I figured it was best to deflect my incompetency to another member. Thanks Loyal. Lol

 

[MachS]

We're $32m over according to the article, the $50m in restructures requires cutting Havenstein and extending Stafford, and I don't think it's counting free agents such as Johnson or Floyd

I think cutting Hav is much more likely than resigning Floyd and JJ. We have 4 viable safeties and we can find cheaper edge options while gaining a 3rd round comp pick.

Also that article didn't account for restructures of Woods and Kupp which would get us into the $35M range of available cap. Who knows exactly what we'll do regarding restructures, but IF we want to open that much space this off-season we definitely can.

 

[Allen2McVay]

We're $32m over according to the article, the $50m in restructures requires cutting Havenstein and extending Stafford

Yes but the article also projects alternatives to get to sufficient cap relief.

For instance, the 2021 cap hits for both Woods and Kupp are largely salary. The Rams could convert that to bonus and get the same relief for releasing Havenstein.

 

[PhillyRam]

IMO the Rams will let Floyd walk because with AD up front it creates production on the EDGE like Fowler, Floyd. I'm not saying just anyone can be productive, they must be gifted EDGE guys not JAG's. I feel like the Rams will pull another FA EDGE guy out of their ass and he'll produce. The Donald factor is real...unless of course his rib cartilage is shredded. You're welcome Packers.

IMO they let JJ walk because paying young stud Safeties is a luxury. I think they retain everyone else in the secondary unless Hill gets offered a fuckload. I'd be careful signing Hill to be your #1 guy and big money.

I expect Brock to return as well as Fox.

Reynolds, Everett, Brown...gone. Everyone seems to be in agreement there. I suspect we'll sign some middle of the road but underrated guys to replace at WR/OL.

The one aggressive/shocker move i feel like we could see is a trade involving Kupp. Goff's dude. Also not exactly Mr Reliable in terms of durability.

Looking forward to see how it all goes down. As usual i'm not nervous and don't see any doom n gloom. Cap shmap. No 1st? No problem. The Rams know what they're doing.

I could see Kupp to Detroit since they are losing their WRs.

Get a 3 & 5... and those are high picks in those rounds.

With his injury history a #2 might be too high.

 

[PhillyRam]

I think cutting Hav is much more likely than resigning Floyd and JJ. We have 4 viable safeties and we can find cheaper edge options while gaining a 3rd round comp pick.

Also that article didn't account for restructures of Woods and Kupp which would get us into the $35M range of available cap. Who knows exactly what we'll do regarding restructures, but IF we want to open that much space this off-season we definitely can.

They would trade Hav before cutting him. He would be in demand, like the Olgetree or Quinn deals. Something like a #4 & #6 would do it. Gives you chips to trade up to target a guy or stay put and take more shots since they don't have many picks this yr.

 

[Kevin]

We can create cap room this year without cutting anyone.

Right now for next year we have $41 million in projected cap space - even if the cap doesn't go up as projected, we'll have plenty of space with the following guys under contract:

Stafford
Akers/Hendo
Woods/Kupp/Jefferson
Higbee/Hopkins
Evans, Edwards, Havenstein, Whitworth, Anchrum
AD/Brockers/Gaines/Robinson
Lewis/Hollins
Ramsey/Long
Burgess/Rapp/Fuller
Hekker

Plenty of space to re-sign Williams Corbett, SJD and Kiser if we want to.

We can also create more space if A'Shawn, Brockers or Whitworth are let go. Obviously some of that will be taken by the moves to create more space for this year, but overall we have our core mostly locked up and will have space next year to re-sign everyone if we want to and spend in FA

Next year we will have $41 million in cap space but with only 28 players under contract.

 

[CGI_Ram]

IMO the Rams will let Floyd walk because with AD up front it creates production on the EDGE like Fowler, Floyd. I'm not saying just anyone can be productive, they must be gifted EDGE guys not JAG's. I feel like the Rams will pull another FA EDGE guy out of their ass and he'll produce. The Donald factor is real...unless of course his rib cartilage is shredded. You're welcome Packers.

This is how I think it’s set up to do. I agree.

But geez... I think EXACTLY as @Merlin as it relates to Floyd. Damn, he’s like a glove for that role. Staley’s coming for him, IMO.

Floyd's not the only guy who can give us a good contain. But it's a tough thing to find when you're talking about strong side vs some of these offenses. If you can't force that edge vs SF for example you will get run on. If Shanny runs on you he will beat you, or at the least you are in for a long day.

The decision to let Floyd walk may have already been made but if that was the call they will need a good plan. Just looks hard to pull off a replacement for that dude is all. And I don't trust Lewis.

I'll admit a tag is more than he should make. But on a tag he has to prove himself again which helps lessen the chances of getting burned. I am more concerned about another bad contract than overpaying an edge for a season.

 

[FrantikRam]

Next year we will have $41 million in cap space but with only 28 players under contract.

With 13-16 players added via the draft this year and next. And again most of our core is among those 28. And we have the ability to make more space if needed to fill out the roster.

Were in great shape with the cap for future years

 

[OldSchool]

Next year we will have $41 million in cap space but with only 28 players under contract.

Which at league minimum rookie contracts would eat about $17 million of that. Add to that these restructures and we don't have much if any cap again next year.

 

[nighttrain]

Without Ramsey, our defense is much more vulnerable to big time WR's. I seriously think the 1sts we gave up for hime were wroth every bit..

absolutely worth what we gave for Ramsey, every game he took opponents top receiver a;nd neutralized him, every time

train

 

[Kevin]

Yes

Which at league minimum rookie contracts would eat about $17 million of that. Add to that these restructures and we don't have much if any cap again next year.

Yes, and those draft picks are going to be mostly third and fourth round role players. Our roster is now and will become more so a handful of very highly paid stars and a bunch of JAGs filling in around them.

 

[OldSchool]

Yes

Yes, and those draft picks are going to be mostly third and fourth round role players. Our roster is now and will become more so a handful of very highly paid stars and a bunch of JAGs filling in around them.

We're a very very top heavy roster and don't see that changing for a few years.

 

[Kevin]

We're a very very top heavy roster and don't see that changing for a few years.

Yes, and we saw in the NFC championship game how hard it is to win with JAGs when half of your stars are playing hurt.

 

[CGI_Ram]

Leonard Floyd becomes valuable pass rush presence after career season | Free Agent Spotlight

Leonard Floyd becomes valuable pass rush presence after career season | Free Agent Spotlight

When Dante Fowler departed after a career season, the Rams opted to find his replacement via free agency, signing former Bears outside linebacker Leonard Floyd to a one-year contract last spring.

Playing on that prove-it deal, Floyd produced a career-best 10.5 sacks in 2020, but is now set to become an unrestricted free agent when the new league year begins on March 17 at 1 p.m. PT, per a Nov. 18 report on the tentative 2021 league calendar by NFL Network's Tom Peliserro.

Rams head coach Sean McVay has publicly supported Floyd returning, saying "the answer is absolutely yes" when asked during a Jan. 1 video conference if Los Angeles would like to bring Floyd back.

"The versatility, the relentless passion and really persistence that he played with, ability to affect the quarterback, ability to stop the run, I think he was one of the more complete edge players in this league," McVay said during his end-of-season video conference on Jan. 17.

One of the best examples of a complete performance by Floyd came against the Seahawks in Week 10, when he finished with a career-high three sacks, plus a team-high five QB hits, two tackles for loss and one fumble recovery en route to NFC Defensive Player of the Week honors for that week.

Yet, despite that strong production, the Rams have a precedent for moving on from edge rushers whose performances have earned them the opportunity to sign more lucrative contracts. Fowler signed a three-year, $48-million deal (per reports) with the Falcons last offseason after his career year with the Rams, then the Rams added Floyd on that one-year deal as his replacement.

Another potential factor in whether or not Floyd returns is new defensive coordinator Raheem Morris. When Morris' predecessor Brandon Staley arrived last year, Floyd made sense as someone to bring in because he was familiar with Staley's scheme, having worked together with the Bears in 2017 and 2018. While Rams general manager Les Snead has said they want to keep the Staley system while adding Morris' style to it, Morris' prototypical edge rusher may be different from Staley's.

If the Rams decide not to re-sign Floyd, they still have outside linebackers Ogbo Okoronkwo and Terrell Lewis under contract and could potentially turn to one of them for a bigger role. They could also look to the NFL Draft for a possible replacement – they drafted Lewis with the 84th overall pick last year even after signing Floyd.

Like other pending defensive free agents, Floyd will present the Rams with another tough decision to make.