Rams claim QB Brandon Allen

[bluecoconuts]

I totally disagree and I can only go with what I see with my eyes, but Mannion has performed very well in preseason last season and this season, so I don't understand how they can be dissatisfied with him. Again I know what Allbright, but it does pass the eye test for me.

I'm not dissatisfied with Mannion, my guess is that they don't see Mannion as a scheme fit. They were worried about extending Tru because they didn't know if he would be a scheme fit for a Wade defense, so they tagged him (at least that was the story)... So they might not be so sure on Mannion as a scheme fit. Perhaps Mannion is struggling with reads and protections and it's something that we're not seeing much on the field because he's able to still connect... Just not to the receiver he's supposed to.

Honestly I have no idea. I'm not comfortable with making Mannion a long term starter, but if Goff was to go down, I'd be comfortable with rolling with Mannion until he's healthy. Maybe McVay doesn't feel the same way? I don't really know.

My best guess is that either McVay feels that Mannion has limited upside, and Allen has more potential to be a better backup, or he doesn't feel that Mannion is a scheme fit.

 

[Soul Surfer]

fuck the Razorhacks!

Wouldn't that be bestiality?

Besides they are really hard to catch....
umm...
I mean ....that's what a friend told me.

 

[A55VA6]

I can't imagine they'd get rid of Mannion now even if they're planning on making Allen the #2 QB.. That would probably happen next year though, not this year, would be stupid to do that this year in my opinion.

Yeah, id say Mannion is definitely safe this year, but next year? idk.

 

[Dxmissile]

To be fair Goff and Mannion are both Fisher type QBs. Do you think McVay would of got Goff if he was the coach prior to Goff coming into the league?

And besides Coach Riley ran a very similar offense to what McVay is running that's why him McVay was actually scouted Mannion in college. I don't get this Mannion is a Fisher type qb, because the offense that McVay is running fits Mannion strengths too it's based off of play action.

 

[Riverumbbq]

I totally disagree and I can only go with what I see with my eyes, but Mannion has performed very well in preseason last season and this season, so I don't understand how they can be dissatisfied with him. Again I know what Allbright, but it does pass the eye test for me.

Agree that Mannion has been a good #3 for a couple years, and better since being moved up to a #2 status late last year, and I like him as our #2 this year also, but following 2018 he becomes a free agent and is likely to consider better paying offers which may also give him a stronger shot of moving up someone else's depth chart. This year may be a kind of 'contract year' for him, although in a very limited manner as long as Goff remains healthy. Mannion will have to perform admirably in mop-up roles to gain traction, but so long as he does well, he should at least command what he originally cost, a 3'rd round pick. If Allen sticks as our developmental QB next season, perhaps look to an older veteran QB with a short term contract as our #2 in 2018. Of course, maybe Mannion does get re-signed, but picking up a needed draft pick may prove more valuable for us, it's really going to come down to how many quality QB's are available in the next draft and how many teams are in need. Mannion could become a valuable component to a team which wants to develop a top draftee and have a vet start while they get the guy up to speed. Any number of scenarios could be hatched so long as Mannion continues to perform well. jmo

 

[Dxmissile]

View: https://twitter.com/allbrightnfl/status/904848519206502400

Lmao this guy is a complete joke, he said they wasn't sold on Mannion as the number 2 now he saying they wasn't sold on the depth at the position

 

[OldSchool]

Lmao this guy is a complete joke, he said they wasn't sold on Mannion as the number 2 now he saying they wasn't sold on the depth at the position

Isn't that saying the same thing? Mannion is the depth until they signed a #3.

 

[Dxmissile]

Isn't that saying the same thing? Mannion is the depth until they signed a #3.

No it's not the same thing because he specifically called out Mannion name and they had 3 QBs on the roster

 

[Dxmissile]

I don't get how people are saying Mannions not a scheme fit. Do you guys know what type of offense Coach Riley ran at Oregon state. Lol because that's literally the same scheme McVay is running. Now they claim Brandon Albert and everybody is ready to write Mannion off the same way when they got Aaron Green.

 

[OldSchool]

No it's not the same thing because he specifically called out Mannion name and they had 3 QBs on the roster

Congrats on splitting hairs. Orlovsky isn't back on the team and they've added another guy. I think I've mentioned many many many times I don't dislike Mannion I just think he'll be a good backup like many other guys before him were for a long time. Adding Allen is either adding a scout team guy that they have some past with in Olsen coaching him last year. Or it's a long term slow play. Either way we won't know which for some time so no reason to over react either way about his signing.

 

[Dxmissile]

Congrats on splitting hairs. Orlovsky isn't back on the team and they've added another guy. I think I've mentioned many many many times I don't dislike Mannion I just think he'll be a good backup like many other guys before him were for a long time. Adding Allen is either adding a scout team guy that they have some past with in Olsen coaching him last year. Or it's a long term slow play. Either way we won't know which for some time so no reason to over react either way about his signing.

How is that splitting hairs all I did was give you a direct quote from Allbright. It's a big difference from going to calling a qb out saying they wasn't sold on Mannion to all of a sudden they wasn't sold on the depth at the position. That's pretty cut and dry.

 

[bluecoconuts]

Isn't that saying the same thing? Mannion is the depth until they signed a #3.

Here's the tweet in question. He specifically mentions they're not sold on Mannion.



That doesn't mean that Mannion will be cut tomorrow, although I suppose anything is possible if it's true, but it would make sense to find a long term solution for the #2 spot.

However when asked what his source was for the above tweet he responded, so who knows what the next move will be:

 

[Dxmissile]

Here's the tweet in question. He specifically mentions they're not sold on Mannion.



That doesn't mean that Mannion will be cut tomorrow, although I suppose anything is possible if it's true, but it would make sense to find a long term solution for the #2 spot.

However when asked what his source was for the above tweet he responded, so who knows what the next move will be:

lol that's me I asked him that. That's my real name lmao

 

[bluecoconuts]

I don't get how people are saying Mannions not a scheme fit. Do you guys know what type of offense Coach Riley ran at Oregon state. Lol because that's literally the same scheme McVay is running. Now they claim Brandon Albert and everybody is ready to write Mannion off the same way when they got Aaron Green.

My guess is scheme fit, because Mannion doesn't seem so bad that we need to get rid of him now.

I think he has flaws, mostly with locking onto receivers and not going through progressions, but I figured those are things that can be coached. Maybe McVay really see's something he doesn't like.

I figured scheme fit at least means that Mannion has a chance in the league to do something, be a backup or not. The other option means that he may have trouble finding another job...

 

[SteezyEndo]

Here's the tweet in question. He specifically mentions they're not sold on Mannion.



That doesn't mean that Mannion will be cut tomorrow, although I suppose anything is possible if it's true, but it would make sense to find a long term solution for the #2 spot.

However when asked what his source was for the above tweet he responded, so who knows what the next move will be:

I think we may need another QB. Too much uncertainty, regardless if this coaching staff is unsure of who we got at QB. Be afraid, be very afraid. I see red flags...

 

[JackDRams]

I've been trying to think. But I can't remember a single play action pass from Mannion this preseason. And Goff was running play action very frequently. Could be wrong, but that could just mean they're not comfortable with Mannion running play action. Allen was primarily a play action QB.

 

[JackDRams]

lol that's me I asked him that. That's my real name lmao

Zerell? That's uncommon lol. What's your background?

 

[den-the-coach]

I can't imagine they'd get rid of Mannion now even if they're planning on making Allen the #2 QB.. That would probably happen next year though, not this year, would be stupid to do that this year in my opinion.

Is it possible, that they want a Quarterback in the system with Mannion being a free agent next season? Also the only other option is trading Mannion too.

 

[Dxmissile]

My guess is scheme fit, because Mannion doesn't seem so bad that we need to get rid of him now.

I think he has flaws, mostly with locking onto receivers and not going through progressions, but I figured those are things that can be coached. Maybe McVay really see's something he doesn't like.

I figured scheme fit at least means that Mannion has a chance in the league to do something, be a backup or not. The other option means that he may have trouble finding another job...

The scheme isn't it because he ran that same scheme in college. They could like Albert more than Mannion or maybe they do feel like Mannion is going to have more opportunity next year for another team, but Albert isn't going to replace Mannion this year so in my opinion this has nothing to do with Mannion and more of them just upgrading the overall qb depth

 

[bluecoconuts]

I think we may need another QB. Too much uncertainty, regardless if this coaching staff is unsure of who we got at QB. Be afraid, be very afraid. I see red flags...

There's nothing that I see that suggests that the coaching staff is worried about who we have as QB1. It's QB2 and maybe QB3 that apparently is the issue with them.

I don't think we need to be that worried.