Poll: The Most Irreplaceable Member of the Rams

[OldSchool]

Player-wise its Donald. We saw that vs Green Bay. Well, the smart football people saw it.

Without McVay though, Donald is game wrecking on his way to no playoffs year in and year out.

Ok here's why I'm saying AD. The questions says who's most irreplacable?

How easy is it to replace a first ballot HoF three time DPOY? Easier than replacing a team that can coach that player and others to the playoffs?

 

[SeminoleRam]

Aaron Donald! Not only is he THAT GOOD but he makes the rest of the team better with his Skills, Attitude, Drive and Determination!!!

 

[Corbin]

He definitely doesn't get enough cred. The guy stays out of the way and he's a good sport who allows for all this wheeling and dealing that many owners would not be willing to pay for or deal with.

If I'm him I am a bit irritated by the way things have gone. Signing Goff in particular is a bad look. But that said he does have a really good group of guys in place to sustain winning and I think 2021 he's going to see his patience rewarded if they can round out the rest of this roster.

Exact and perfect.

Guy gets nowhere near the credit he deserves mainly due to sour apples out there because mainly of the whole STL thing.

Harder to get an ‘all in’ owner than it is to get even a franchise QB or a world beater HC.

 

[Merlin]

Well trading AD and replacing AD are not the same thing. But again you’re describing most important to which I’ve already said coaching is likely more important.

you can trade ad for a lot of picks and our team would still be strong. What if we traded McVay for picks and promoted Staley?

back to my point tho..if you had to redraft the entire NFL meaning all coaches and players and execs are up for grabs could you replace McVay? Could you even upgrade McVay? Could you replace Donald? Could you upgrade Donald ?

Staley would be an unknown. I think he's going to be a good one for a long time but he could just be a DC. Never know. When it comes to coaches IF you get your hands on a great one don't let him go. That's what I believe.

If I owned the Rams in 2000 when Vermiel wanted to retire I would have given him a bonus that made him stay. I would have run out the red carpet, fired the dipshits in the front office, and let him keep building my organization even if he wanted to move upstairs. I feel the same way about McVay. I think he's even better than Vermiel was too. He's young and he's gonna fuck up but I'd be doing what the Rams are doing and betting on him.

I get that others disagree and that's cool. I just believe in the guy. And if you were to restack the entire league and have a draft that mixed front office types and players together that would be a fascinating thing to see. I would guess you see a handful of coaches go off the board first, the top guys of which McVay is one. Watson would come out in that group too. then you'd see a few key GMs mixed in with other top QBs and so on.

Lastly IMO Shanny and McVay are in that top 5. We're watching an epic struggle here between two guys who will be rivals for a long time. This is early in the story. So let's wait and see where McVay comes out in the next two years with an upgraded QB position. I think we're all gonna be very happy.

 

[Loyal]

Exact and perfect.

Guy gets nowhere near the credit he deserves mainly due to sour apples out there because mainly of the whole STL thing.

Harder to get an ‘all in’ owner than it is to get even a franchise QB or a world beater HC.

@Merlin droppin' knowledge!

 

[Merlin]

Can you guys imagine if we had an owner like Georgia right now? Broke, ignorant of how the league works, disinterested in real winning. Seriously man I'd find another team. No way I will ever endure that shit again.

 

[Corbin]

Can you guys imagine if we had an owner like Georgia right now? Broke, ignorant of how the league works, disinterested in real winning. Seriously man I'd find another team. No way I will ever endure that shit again.

Or bringing in a John Shaw 2.0? Maybe John Jr? Lol

fml just the thought of that makes me cringe!

 

[NJRamsFan]

Staley would be an unknown. I think he's going to be a good one for a long time but he could just be a DC. Never know. When it comes to coaches IF you get your hands on a great one don't let him go. That's what I believe.

If I owned the Rams in 2000 when Vermiel wanted to retire I would have given him a bonus that made him stay. I would have run out the red carpet, fired the dipshits in the front office, and let him keep building my organization even if he wanted to move upstairs. I feel the same way about McVay. I think he's even better than Vermiel was too. He's young and he's gonna fuck up but I'd be doing what the Rams are doing and betting on him.

I get that others disagree and that's cool. I just believe in the guy. And if you were to restack the entire league and have a draft that mixed front office types and players together that would be a fascinating thing to see. I would guess you see a handful of coaches go off the board first, the top guys of which McVay is one. Watson would come out in that group too. then you'd see a few key GMs mixed in with other top QBs and so on.

Lastly IMO Shanny and McVay are in that top 5. We're watching an epic struggle here between two guys who will be rivals for a long time. This is early in the story. So let's wait and see where McVay comes out in the next two years with an upgraded QB position. I think we're all gonna be very happy.

I dont disagree with a lot of the things you are saying. You don't have to explain the importance of coaching to me because I understand and agree with you. I'm simply saying that in order for something to be irreplaceable it has to have no equal and not be able to be found elsewhere. That's what Aaron Donald is. He has no rival. He has no equal. He is truly once in a generation....maybe. I've already conceded twice that coaching and QB play are more important than Dline play. But as you said Shanny v McVay...who is AD's shanny? there isn't one.

 

[NJRamsFan]

Can you guys imagine if we had an owner like Georgia right now? Broke, ignorant of how the league works, disinterested in real winning. Seriously man I'd find another team. No way I will ever endure that shit again.

I was honestly too young to understand the owners impact at that point in my life...what did she do?

 

[Merlin]

I dont disagree with a lot of the things you are saying. You don't have to explain the importance of coaching to me because I understand and agree with you. I'm simply saying that in order for something to be irreplaceable it has to have no equal and not be able to be found elsewhere. That's what Aaron Donald is. He has no rival. He has no equal. He is truly once in a generation....maybe. I've already conceded twice that coaching and QB play are more important than Dline play. But as you said Shanny v McVay...who is AD's shanny? there isn't one.

True there isn't one. But you don't need one of those to win it all.

You need a good coach at the least though and the worse your coach is the better your roster has to be to compensate.

 

[Loyal]

Get in here and vote for AD, CGI! @CGI_Ram

 

[Loyal]

True there isn't one. But you don't need one of those to win it all.

You need a good coach at the least though and the worse your coach is the better your roster has to be to compensate.

I'm the ultimate compensation ~ AD

 

[FrantikRam]

The same was true for Merlin Olsen until George Allen showed up, yet he outlasted Allen by two more HC's.

Olsen was on a stream of average to below average defenses? Genuinely asking because I have no idea

 

[Loyal]

Olsen was on a stream of average to below average defenses? Genuinely asking because I have no idea

The Fearsome Foursome was there starting when Rosey Grier got there in 1963, but there were no winning seasons until George Allen in 1966. If memory serves, Rosey was injured in 1966(?) and never played again....

 

[Mojo Ram]

A slight mistake, but I stand by it.

Poll is flawed as fuck

 

[Loyal]

Poll is flawed as fuck

Respect the Process....

 

[Loyal]

@CGI_Ram, yur killin' me!

 

[CGI_Ram]

I will have to read all posts in the morning...

But, your (@Loyal ) first post made me think; Snead

So that’s how I voted before reading anything.

My thinking; if Snead is responsible for the talent we’ve been drafting late rounds, he’s irreplaceable. The most irreplaceable piece would be the talent influx.

Now, I need to read to see how bad I’m off. Looks like I’m nearly alone here...

 

[FrantikRam]

The Fearsome Foursome was there starting when Rosey Grier got there in 1963, but there were no winning seasons until George Allen in 1966. If memory serves, Rosey was injured in 1966(?) and never played again....

No single player can control wins and losses, that's why I mentioned the part about our defenses mostly being average with AD.

I think I'd be more inclined to say he's more valuable than McVay if every defense we fielded with him was top 10, but most were not

 

[Loyal]

I will have to read all posts in the morning...

But, your (@Loyal ) first post made me think; Snead

So that’s how I voted before reading anything.

My thinking; if Snead is responsible for the talent we’ve been drafting late rounds, he’s irreplaceable. The most irreplaceable piece would be the talent influx.

Now, I need to read to see how bad I’m off. Looks like I’m nearly alone here...