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Elite defenders struggle too stop above avg offensive players due to the rules.
Umm... Maybe you could argue that above average guys on offense are able to beat out above average guys on defense due to rules skewing the league but I think this is incredible hyperbole here and patently untrue.

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Seems to be the philosophy of McVay and Snead when you look at the size of the cake the O gets in Cap. But, new DC, no AD, something has to tilt back to D and it might be most of the picks in this draft but BPA is going to rule the day if the Rams trade up or pick at 19.
So draft picks on offense:
-Gotta have a RB2.
-Nice to have a WR2/WR3 and OT depth.

The rest of the draft picks can be allotted to Defense/K.
 

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So draft picks on offense:
-Gotta have a RB2.
-Nice to have a WR2/WR3 and OT depth.

The rest of the draft picks can be allotted to Defense/K.
I'm not saying they won't draft a RB but I think people would be disappointed in how much Rams probably ready to go to war with Williams, Rivers and an undrafted FA next year (or a camp addition FA).

Def think that any Rams addition on offense will come at WR and then OT or Center, FWIW in this draft.
 

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If Bowers falls to #19, I believe he will be the pick. He will instantly make the offense even better and take pressure off Kupp and Puka. Then go with edge and DT with the next two picks.
 

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If Bowers falls to 19 there's a reason that he fell that far that could push the Rams to pass on him too. Just a thought.
 

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Umm... Maybe you could argue that above average guys on offense are able to beat out above average guys on defense due to rules skewing the league but I think this is incredible hyperbole here and patently untrue.

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Umm...that was my point. The rules overwhelmingly favor offenses.
 

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Umm... Maybe you could argue that above average guys on offense are able to beat out above average guys on defense due to rules skewing the league but I think this is incredible hyperbole here and patently untrue.

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And the Rams organization's philosophy tends to prove my point. Just look how they allocate their resources.

3X the amount of cap spent on the offense vs defense. And one guy takes up nearly half of the cap that is spent on the defense.
 

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I posted about Cooper a month ago. Problem is he probably goes between 30 & 40, not sure the Rams move up from 52 and fork over 99 to do so.

Of course the other option is trade down a few times to either pick him in that range or amass enough picks, in trade downs, so that they are then willing to trade up from 52.
An example of an option is Washington. They have a real need for OL/WR and have R2.36 and R2.40. Just spitballing but Rams offer R1.19/Tutu/R6 pick and could get 2 nice picks in early R2. Fiske/Cooper or Robinson/Cooper or Robinson/Cooper would be nice scenarios with those picks.
Could/would? But should?
 

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Seems to be more of a case of bad QB play. That's why possibly 6 guys are likley to go in the top 20, and 2 are not first round talents.

And now what did the NFL do? They changed the KR rules to help the offenses get better starting field position.

I am all for building a great defense. I want 3 of the top 4 picks to be on D. I am just saying that teams focus on offense. One reason is to probably help their overpaid QBs to be successful.
 

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Seems to be more of a case of bad QB play. That's why possibly 6 guys are likley to go in the top 20, and 2 are not first round talents.
I'd really encourage you to watch some football games around the league. A huge part of the change is defenses doing a fantastic job. They're all playing shell coverages now to eliminate big plays and many teams are rotating coverages after the snap to muddy the reads. They're some great QB play, they're just not having as much explosives.

And defenses are defending the run with light boxes and there's an increase in simulated pressures across the league all contributing to making it harder on offenses. Not only that, defenses have really clamped down on RPOs since like 2019.
 
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Seems to be more of a case of bad QB play. That's why possibly 6 guys are likley to go in the top 20, and 2 are not first round talents.

And now what did the NFL do? They changed the KR rules to help the offenses get better starting field position.

I am all for building a great defense. I want 3 of the top 4 picks to be on D. I am just saying that teams focus on offense. One reason is to probably help their overpaid QBs to be successful.
Last year more than half of the 1st round picks were on the Defensive side. This year seems to be an anomaly with most of the top 15-20 talent being offensive players.
 

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