Miami Trading #3 to.....SF

[Elmgrovegnome]

2021 NFL Draft trade grades: Dolphins ace exam while 49ers and Eagles haul in impressive marks

The Dolphins get an 'A+' for playing chess while everyone else is playing checkers

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The Dolphins get an 'A+' for playing chess while everyone else is playing checkers

The NFL world went topsy-turvy on Friday as the Miami Dolphins, San Francisco 49ers and Philadelphia Eagles shook up the entire complexity of the draft by making two separate trades involving top 10 picks. To make a long story short, the 49ers have the No. 3 overall pick in the draft, the Dolphins have the No. 6 pick, and the Eagles No. 12 -- with plenty of future first-round picks going to Miami and Philadelphia.

San Francisco is in prime position to land a franchise quarterback while Miami is set to still select an offensive playmaker and Philadelphia loaded up on assets for the future that only the Dolphins can top. We break down each of these deals with trade grades for all three teams:

Dolphins

The trade: Miami trades No. 3 overall pick to San Francisco for No. 12 overall pick, 2022 first-round pick, 2022 third-round pick, 2023 first-round pick.

The trade: Miami trades No. 12 overall pick, fourth-round pick (No. 123) and a 2022 first-round pick to Philadelphia for No. 6 overall pick and fifth-round pick (No. 156).

Miami already had an impressive draft haul over the next two years and now it's even bigger after pulling off two separate deals to get out -- then jump back -- into the top 10. Clearly Dolphins general manager Chris Grier took advantage of the quarterback-needy teams by acquiring more assets with that No. 3 overall pick.

Signing Will Fuller eliminated Miami's need to add one of the big three wide receivers -- or tight end Kyle Pitts -- at No. 3 overall. Why keep the pick if you can trade back, acquire further draft capital, AND still get the playmaker you covet? The Dolphins get another first-round pick in 2022 and a 2023 first-round pick so the 49ers can move up nine spots? Easy call.

Miami originally had two first-round picks in 2022 and two first-round picks in 2023 -- in addition to the No. 12 and No. 18 pick in this year's draft. The Dolphins had plenty of assets to find their way back into the top 10, only giving up the No. 12 pick and their own 2022 first-round pick to the Eagles to move up six spots to No. 6.

The Dolphins have the No. 6 and No. 18 picks, two second-round picks, a third-round pick, a fifth-round pick and two seventh-round picks in 2021. They still have a first-round pick in 2022, a second-round pick and two third-round picks. In 2023, Miami has two first-round picks, a second-round pick and a third-round pick.

Five first-round picks over the next three years with four second-round picks and four third-round picks. That's 13 picks between the first two days in the draft -- with Tua Tagovailoa as the quarterback and a prime opportunity to draft an offensive playmaker at No. 6 with an already talented roster that finished 10-6 last season.

Grier should write a novel on how to build a roster.

Grade: A+

49ers

The trade: San Francisco trades No. 12 overall pick, 2022 first-round pick, 2022 third-round pick, 2023 first-round pick to Miami for No. 3 overall pick.

The 49ers are sensing a championship window with a talented roster -- but no clear answer at quarterback. Jimmy Garoppolo has two years remaining on his contract, but the 49ers can easily move on and save $23.6 million in salary cap space just by trading him. Garoppolo is only owed $53.4 million over the final two years of his deal and the 49ers have never seriously been sold on him as the franchise quarterback -- which helps he has a tradable contract and is a solid starting quarterback in the league.

Garoppolo isn't a difference-maker at the position, which is what the 49ers are seeking. This is why San Francisco made the bold move to move up from No. 12 to No. 3, ensuring the franchise lands either one of Zach Wilson, Justin Fields, or Trey Lance. Trevor Lawrence is going No. 1 to the Jaguars and the Jets are in prime position to select Wilson -- leaving Fields or Lance available for the 49ers.

Fields or Lance would be strong fits as signal-callers in head coach Kyle Shanahan's zone-run scheme, giving San Francisco a true dual-threat quarterback in the process. The 49ers will have a quarterback on his rookie contract they can develop into one of the best in the league -- aided by an already talented roster that is in contention for a Super Bowl over the next few seasons.

The 49ers don't have a first-round pick for the next two years, so Lynch better make sure he gets this pick right. They still can get more draft assets back by dealing Garoppolo, but this trade is about landing a franchise quarterback.

Fortune favors the bold.

Grade: A-

Eagles

The trade: Philadelphia trades No. 6 overall pick and fifth-round pick (No. 156) to Miami for No. 12 overall pick, fourth-round pick (No. 123) and a 2022 first-round pick.

Let's be honest here: Does anyone actually know what the Eagles are doing in regards to the 2021 season? Philadelphia had a golden opportunity to select a playmaker at No. 6 for Jalen Hurts once Miami traded down from No. 3 to No. 12 -- which basically ensures the top three picks in the draft would be quarterbacks. The Eagles staying put at No. 6 would have netted them one of Ja'Marr Chase, DeVonta Smith, Kyle Pitts or Jaylen Waddle. Any of those players would have made their pass-catching group immediately better in 2021.

Trading down to No. 12 eliminates Philadelphia getting one of those players, but there's hope for the Eagles. Over the past decade, the third wide receiver taken has only gone before No. 12 once. That still leaves the Eagles with the hope of selecting Smith or Waddle -- of course hope isn't the same as a sure thing. Keep in mind this draft has 12 to 15 star players before the talent pool dips considerably -- and the Eagles are still in one of those top 12 positions.

Now for the draft capital the Eagles have in 2021 and 2022. Philadelphia has a league-high 11 picks in this draft, including the No. 12 and No. 37 picks. The Eagles have two third-round picks as a result of the Carson Wentz trade and a fourth-round pick from the Dolphins for trading down.

Philadelphia has two first-round picks in 2022 with the potential for a third first-round pick from the Wentz deal. If Wentz plays 70% of the snaps and the Indianapolis Colts make the playoffs in 2021, or if Wentz plays 75% of the snaps this year, that conditional second-round pick for 2022 turns into a first. The Eagles have two first-round picks and two second-round picks in 2022 regardless.

The Eagles have plenty of draft capital for the next two years and Hurts will have the opportunity to prove he's the franchise quarterback in 2021. If only the guy making the picks (general manager Howie Roseman) was excellent at drafting....

Grade: B+

I love what Miami did. But there is a way that it backfires. If the QB that goes to San Francisco ends up being very good and Tua flames out, then this could be seen as a fail.

 

[den-the-coach]

I love what Miami did. But there is a way that it backfires. If the QB that goes to San Francisco ends up being very good and Tua flames out, then this could be seen as a fail.

Also eventually you have to hit on the picks, they don't mean squat, it you don't pick the right players. I also agree that if Tua does not answer the call this season, the Dolphins will be utilizing their draft capital to move up in order to draft Sam Howell in 2022.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Also eventually you have to hit on the picks, they don't mean squat, it you don't pick the right players. I also agree that if Tua does not answer the call this season, the Dolphins will be utilizing their draft capital to move up in order to draft Sam Howell in 2022.

Yep. And even if they hit on every pick and Tua turns out to be great, in five or six years will they be able to sign them all with Tua on his next big contract? I guess it doesn’t matter if they get a Super Bowl or two out of it.

Its nice to have some flexibility. Turning Tunsil into 4 firsts and a third is a fantastic feat. He’s noteven a QB.

 

[Tano]

Yep. And even if they hit on every pick and Tua turns out to be great, in five or six years will they be able to sign them all with Tua on his next big contract? I guess it doesn’t matter if they get a Super Bowl or two out of it.

Its nice to have some flexibility. Turning Tunsil into 4 firsts and a third is a fantastic feat. He’s noteven a QB.

I wish the Rams had continued to do that with their 2nd pick in 2014. Trade back - get more firsts and then take one of the other left tackles instead of Robinson. Let someone else take a chance on the all athleticism - raw left tackle.

But damn it - Fisher was in love with the all athletic - raw guys on offense.

Quick Robinson - even Tavon to an extent was raw since he just used his athleticism in college to beat guys.

 

[Reddog99]

Maybe you guys should try to beat Nick Mullens before you start crowing about what you're gonna do to Justin Fields.

49ers have 1 winning season in the last 7 years. Maybe you should worry about your own team.

 

[FrantikRam]

Unless it's Tua from the Dolphins...

The defense held them under 170 yards and allowed two TD drives - one of 1 yard and one of 35 yards. Tua did next I nothing against us

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

I wish the Rams had continued to do that with their 2nd pick in 2014. Trade back - get more firsts and then take one of the other left tackles instead of Robinson. Let someone else take a chance on the all athleticism - raw left tackle.

But damn it - Fisher was in love with the all athletic - raw guys on offense.

Quick Robinson - even Tavon to an extent was raw since he just used his athleticism in college to beat guys.

Agreed. I’ve never been a fan of super athletic guys that weren’t exactly great football players.

GRob had serious limitations, with huge upside. Ditto, Quick. Then they took guys with character concerns like Jenkins, but great athletes and with football talent. Fisher loved Trent Richardson because of his workout.

So , yeah. Amassing picks is one thing, doing the right thing with them is another. The potential was huge.

 

[snackdaddy]

49ers have 1 winning season in the last 7 years. Maybe you should worry about your own team.

I'll take playoffs and winning seasons over their two wins against us. That is football. We couldn't beat them. They couldn't beat the Seahawks. Seahawks couldn't beat us. In the end they have losing seasons and we make the playoffs.

 

[snackdaddy]

I have to wonder if the Watson saga made the whiners switch gears. Now they'll just roll with Jimmy GQ and wait for his vaginitis to flare up. The force the rookie into action when he isn't ready. Should be a fun season.

 

[Ram Ts]

Maybe you guys should try to beat Nick Mullens before you start crowing about what you're gonna do to Justin Fields.

Well if the Rams beat Nick in both games last year, you’d have the 3rd or 4th pick in the draft and wouldn’t have had to waste 2 future 1s and a 3rd to move up. That’s the long game of chess my friend.

 

[dang]

As Rams fans know picking a franchise QB is tricky business. They have to have the physical talent, work ethic to improve and developmental support to succeed. Add in the luck of staying healthy. The 49ers going hard to select a top 3 QB means a couple things to me:
1. Jimmy G-string is an expensive lame duck. He may have to hold the position for half a year but then it’s bye bye. 49ers will probably trade him and let Mullins steady the transition.
2. There will be changes in SF at the most important position on the field. Hard to think it will come together this year.
3. If 49ers fall flat this year the pitchforks and torches will appear on the horizon for Shanny.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Well if the Rams beat Nick in both games last year, you’d have the 3rd or 4th pick in the draft and wouldn’t have had to waste 2 future 1s and a 3rd to move up. That’s the long game of chess my friend.

That’s winning logic there. Take that Whiner fan.

 

[Angry Ram]

2021 NFL Draft trade grades: Dolphins ace exam while 49ers and Eagles haul in impressive marks

The Dolphins get an 'A+' for playing chess while everyone else is playing checkers

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The Dolphins get an 'A+' for playing chess while everyone else is playing checkers

The NFL world went topsy-turvy on Friday as the Miami Dolphins, San Francisco 49ers and Philadelphia Eagles shook up the entire complexity of the draft by making two separate trades involving top 10 picks. To make a long story short, the 49ers have the No. 3 overall pick in the draft, the Dolphins have the No. 6 pick, and the Eagles No. 12 -- with plenty of future first-round picks going to Miami and Philadelphia.

San Francisco is in prime position to land a franchise quarterback while Miami is set to still select an offensive playmaker and Philadelphia loaded up on assets for the future that only the Dolphins can top. We break down each of these deals with trade grades for all three teams:

Dolphins

The trade: Miami trades No. 3 overall pick to San Francisco for No. 12 overall pick, 2022 first-round pick, 2022 third-round pick, 2023 first-round pick.

The trade: Miami trades No. 12 overall pick, fourth-round pick (No. 123) and a 2022 first-round pick to Philadelphia for No. 6 overall pick and fifth-round pick (No. 156).

Miami already had an impressive draft haul over the next two years and now it's even bigger after pulling off two separate deals to get out -- then jump back -- into the top 10. Clearly Dolphins general manager Chris Grier took advantage of the quarterback-needy teams by acquiring more assets with that No. 3 overall pick.

Signing Will Fuller eliminated Miami's need to add one of the big three wide receivers -- or tight end Kyle Pitts -- at No. 3 overall. Why keep the pick if you can trade back, acquire further draft capital, AND still get the playmaker you covet? The Dolphins get another first-round pick in 2022 and a 2023 first-round pick so the 49ers can move up nine spots? Easy call.

Miami originally had two first-round picks in 2022 and two first-round picks in 2023 -- in addition to the No. 12 and No. 18 pick in this year's draft. The Dolphins had plenty of assets to find their way back into the top 10, only giving up the No. 12 pick and their own 2022 first-round pick to the Eagles to move up six spots to No. 6.

The Dolphins have the No. 6 and No. 18 picks, two second-round picks, a third-round pick, a fifth-round pick and two seventh-round picks in 2021. They still have a first-round pick in 2022, a second-round pick and two third-round picks. In 2023, Miami has two first-round picks, a second-round pick and a third-round pick.

Five first-round picks over the next three years with four second-round picks and four third-round picks. That's 13 picks between the first two days in the draft -- with Tua Tagovailoa as the quarterback and a prime opportunity to draft an offensive playmaker at No. 6 with an already talented roster that finished 10-6 last season.

Grier should write a novel on how to build a roster.

Grade: A+

49ers

The trade: San Francisco trades No. 12 overall pick, 2022 first-round pick, 2022 third-round pick, 2023 first-round pick to Miami for No. 3 overall pick.

The 49ers are sensing a championship window with a talented roster -- but no clear answer at quarterback. Jimmy Garoppolo has two years remaining on his contract, but the 49ers can easily move on and save $23.6 million in salary cap space just by trading him. Garoppolo is only owed $53.4 million over the final two years of his deal and the 49ers have never seriously been sold on him as the franchise quarterback -- which helps he has a tradable contract and is a solid starting quarterback in the league.

Garoppolo isn't a difference-maker at the position, which is what the 49ers are seeking. This is why San Francisco made the bold move to move up from No. 12 to No. 3, ensuring the franchise lands either one of Zach Wilson, Justin Fields, or Trey Lance. Trevor Lawrence is going No. 1 to the Jaguars and the Jets are in prime position to select Wilson -- leaving Fields or Lance available for the 49ers.

Fields or Lance would be strong fits as signal-callers in head coach Kyle Shanahan's zone-run scheme, giving San Francisco a true dual-threat quarterback in the process. The 49ers will have a quarterback on his rookie contract they can develop into one of the best in the league -- aided by an already talented roster that is in contention for a Super Bowl over the next few seasons.

The 49ers don't have a first-round pick for the next two years, so Lynch better make sure he gets this pick right. They still can get more draft assets back by dealing Garoppolo, but this trade is about landing a franchise quarterback.

Fortune favors the bold.

Grade: A-

Eagles

The trade: Philadelphia trades No. 6 overall pick and fifth-round pick (No. 156) to Miami for No. 12 overall pick, fourth-round pick (No. 123) and a 2022 first-round pick.

Let's be honest here: Does anyone actually know what the Eagles are doing in regards to the 2021 season? Philadelphia had a golden opportunity to select a playmaker at No. 6 for Jalen Hurts once Miami traded down from No. 3 to No. 12 -- which basically ensures the top three picks in the draft would be quarterbacks. The Eagles staying put at No. 6 would have netted them one of Ja'Marr Chase, DeVonta Smith, Kyle Pitts or Jaylen Waddle. Any of those players would have made their pass-catching group immediately better in 2021.

Trading down to No. 12 eliminates Philadelphia getting one of those players, but there's hope for the Eagles. Over the past decade, the third wide receiver taken has only gone before No. 12 once. That still leaves the Eagles with the hope of selecting Smith or Waddle -- of course hope isn't the same as a sure thing. Keep in mind this draft has 12 to 15 star players before the talent pool dips considerably -- and the Eagles are still in one of those top 12 positions.

Now for the draft capital the Eagles have in 2021 and 2022. Philadelphia has a league-high 11 picks in this draft, including the No. 12 and No. 37 picks. The Eagles have two third-round picks as a result of the Carson Wentz trade and a fourth-round pick from the Dolphins for trading down.

Philadelphia has two first-round picks in 2022 with the potential for a third first-round pick from the Wentz deal. If Wentz plays 70% of the snaps and the Indianapolis Colts make the playoffs in 2021, or if Wentz plays 75% of the snaps this year, that conditional second-round pick for 2022 turns into a first. The Eagles have two first-round picks and two second-round picks in 2022 regardless.

The Eagles have plenty of draft capital for the next two years and Hurts will have the opportunity to prove he's the franchise quarterback in 2021. If only the guy making the picks (general manager Howie Roseman) was excellent at drafting....

Grade: B+

So the shitters get an A- grade b/c they have a championship window but not a difference maker at QB. Exact same situation as the Rams. And they gave up THREE YEARS of these oh so coveted first round picks.

But the Rams got a B+ because it was a hefty price and mortaged their future. Oh but it's so OK for the shitters for that. Goddamnit the double standard man. Fuck me.

Matthew Stafford trade grades: Rams continue unique strategy, Lions land multiple premium picks and Jared Goff

The Rams continue their all-in push

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[Merlin]

Dolphins need a QB.

Agreed. Not a fan of Tua. In fact QB is what will keep an otherwise fine roster out of the championship round games because they won't be able to get past teams like KC and Buffalo. The disparity at QB is too much. There's that chance Miami builds a generational defense but that's harder to do than finding a QB.

But I'm a big fan of what the Dolphins have been doing since they got Flores. He's one smart dude. He has grounded that franchise IMO.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

So the shitters get an A- grade b/c they have a championship window but not a difference maker at QB. Exact same situation as the Rams. And they gave up THREE YEARS of these oh so coveted first round picks.

But the Rams got a B+ because it was a hefty price and mortaged their future. Oh but it's so OK for the shitters for that. Goddamnit the double standard man. Fuck me.

Matthew Stafford trade grades: Rams continue unique strategy, Lions land multiple premium picks and Jared Goff

The Rams continue their all-in push

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The media favors draft picks more than anything. Draft picks give fans hope and the sports networks capitalize on that.

The games sell themselves but in the offseason the networks live off of hyping the value of draft picks, and these new players before and after they are drafted. Then if they don’t pan out they make more money off of criticizing these unproven rookies.

I mentioned in another NFL.com thread how the Rams got a B+ for the Stafford trade and the Ravens got a B+ for trading a 7th round pick for an unproven tight end.

It makes no sense.

 

[Merlin]

So the shitters get an A- grade b/c they have a championship window but not a difference maker at QB. Exact same situation as the Rams.

But the Rams got a B+ because it was a hefty price and mortaged their future. Oh but it's so OK for the shitters for that. Goddamnit the double standard man. Fuck me.

The 9ers knew they had to make a move because the Rams upgraded. They're still gonna lose to us this year most likely, assuming we get the basic holes we have left filled because whatever QB they draft will get eaten by our defense. But like I keep saying the future of this division is a hot competition between two of the best young coaches in the league. It's LA vs SF in the West and that's how it's gonna be for a while IMO.

 

[Shuie3225]

The more and more I watch Trey Lance the more I like. Think he's going to be a stud unfortunately. Don't think Fields will be the pick. Lance has a much better arm, overall throwing motion, is the better athlete, better footwork, bigger physical frame. Waaay more upside IMO. Hard to believe Shanahan wont be infatuated with raw talent like that.

 

[Allen2McVay]

The media favors draft picks more than anything. Draft picks give fans hope and the sports networks capitalize on that.

The games sell themselves but in the offseason the networks live off of hyping the value of draft picks, and these new players before and after they are drafted. Then if they don’t pan out they make more money off of criticizing these unproven rookies.

I mentioned in another NFL.com thread how the Rams got a B+ for the Stafford trade and the Ravens got a B+ for trading a 7th round pick for an unproven tight end.

It makes no sense.

I think it’s a good idea to make a quick mental note of the source and author of NFL media coverage. Over time, it helps me form an opinion on the good sources; and, more importantly, the weak ones.

I have posted a number of times about RamblinFan’s Bret Stuter who generates too much material, making most of it useless. Just yesterday, he proposed seven trades for the Rams to add draft picks. Seven!!!

According to Bret Stuter, the Rams can get late round picks for players at the end of their roster who may not even make the team. Brian Allen, Justin Lawler and Nsimba Webster would all get back 6th or 7th round picks. Even better, two players that have had difficulty staying on the field (Okoronkwo and Noteboom) would return third round draft choices.

Come On!
Could he be correct about one?
Yes, and he would crow about it.

Kenneth Arthur of SB Nation is another guy that throws anything and everything out there multiple times per day. He proposes tons of stuff, and actually got one correct the other day when he suggested the Niners could move up in the Draft. I missed that prediction but I know he made it because he was patting himself on the back yesterday.

One-for-a-hundred sounds better than zero-for-a-hundred.

 

[RamFan503]

you are assuming the qb they choose will be worth a shit.. most end up sucking and the teams lose.

Way more likely outcome.

Unfortunately, most of those outcomes are when a QB goes to a shitty team. Bitch ass whiners are fairly well put together and have a pretty decent O-line.

 

[RamFan503]

Maybe you guys should try to beat Nick Mullens before you start crowing about what you're gonna do to Justin Fields.

Yeah... I remember when our team was geared just to beat a division rival. Seems it has worked out about as well for your whiners.