McVay on absence of TuTu as of late

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bluecoconuts

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All the Tavon Austin comparisons, if Tutu has a 9+ year career (Tavon is still playing) then we'll probably get something out of him at least, so could be worse.
 

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Hopefully he is a competitor and those comments ignite a fire under his ass.
 

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All the Tavon Austin comparisons, if Tutu has a 9+ year career (Tavon is still playing) then we'll probably get something out of him at least, so could be worse.
I’m personally not a fan of the Tavon comparison but I think most would be happy if Tutu had anywhere near the same production of Austin this year.
 

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Tutu wasn't a kick or punt returner... but I'm still disappointed that he can contribute in neither spot.
I don't feel quite as bad about WR reps, but DJax isn't getting any either, so that's not as alarming to me, especially with what he showed in preseason.
 

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I just never saw the need to draft a #4/5 WR in the 2nd round unless:
1) he was a legit return guy. He is not. He had very little experience coming out.
2) the Rams were gonna deal someone. Thankfully, they didn’t. I can’t see where he’s an heir apparent to ANY of the Gus in front of him.

I’m fine with the Rochelle pick, but getting another DB with that pick would have been better.
 

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This looks familiar, wasn't something similar posted after halfway though Tavon's first season?

I have no idea since that was ages ago, but would the logic still hold at that point?

You can strain yourself as much as you like and try to paint a picture you want others to look at, but in the end you have to wait and find out. Tavon is a good example of waiting to see and finding out some were right..................the point being no one was knows until we do.
 

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Blackmon was an alcoholic, so not a fair comparison unless you know something about Tutu that we don't.
I wasn't making any comparison, I was just saying everyone is sniffing Chase' jockstrap and his early stats compare favourably with Blackmon.

If anything I was giving Tutu the benefit of the doubt by showing its way too early to make judgement about any of these guys.
 

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I have no idea since that was ages ago, but would the logic still hold at that point?

You can strain yourself as much as you like and try to paint a picture you want others to look at, but in the end you have to wait and find out. Tavon is a good example of waiting to see and finding out some were right..................the point being no one was knows until we do.
Austin has never done shit in this league to justify being a first round pick.

He’s got 6 catches for 62 yards this year. He’s had as many 500 yards once in his career.

If that’s your standard you might want to set the bar a little higher.
 

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Tutu isn't gonna have a chance to crack this year's WR lineup so his main way of impacting 2021 is returns.

The dude needs to bust his ass and earn back the staff's trust for that punt return job. Then step up and give us some short fields on offense.

Still pulling for him. We badly need some explosion in this return game.
 

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Catching punts cleanly every time isn’t easy considering the amount of spin that punters get on these new balls. I think that is the more likely explanation for why they are worried about putting him back there.

It’s disappointing but not necessarily surprising that he doesn’t perhaps have the body type and hands to survive and prosper

Let’s not forget he looked great in preseason and caught everything before we write him off because better he thrives playing WR than as a punt returner. The truth is we should have drafted a specialist but they took a punt if you will forgive the pun
 

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This looks familiar, wasn't something similar posted after halfway though Tavon's first season?
I mean shit at this point there's a chance Tavon ends up being a better Ram than Tutu. Too early to say I know, but for all his faults, Tavon was always a weapon on ST. Always a threat to take one to the house. And he did have the one season with 10 total TDs. I hated Tavon's routes and his hands, but man Tutu cant even get on the field, and now his coach says he's essentially not working hard enough or isn't focused enough. Not good.
 

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Based on my eye test, I think he's a fumble or injury waiting to happen in this league. Specualtion, i have to wonder if ball security in practice has McV keeping him on the bench.

Some guys never have those issues in college but it's a different animal in the NFL, especially if you're small.
 

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No matter how many posters try to convince me otherwise, this has always reminded me of the Tavon Austin pick.

A undersized gadget player that is nowhere near an every-down player.

A coach or general managers ego should never play into someone drafted as high as Austin/Atwell.

Ready to be proven wrong like I was about Brian Allen but until I see it?

I don't believe it.
I feel you Brother. Can't really disagree with anything you said.
If your proven wrong it will be next year. I just don't see him contributing this year.
And that includes ST's as well.

I think the biggest difference between Atwell and Austin is he is
way more advanced as a WR., I don't think Austin has the IQ to
learn how to run a route tree. Austin still can't run routes other than the
simplest of the simplest.

Atwell is some one who could develop into a legitimate WR. He has more of
a WR background coming out. Far better tracker and overall WR than Austin.

All that being said your analogy of Atwell being just another gadget player like Austin
carries merit / until proven other wise. Was not a fan of the pick either, but all we can
hope for know is that we are both wrong and I know no one would be happier than you and I if that happens.
 

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I took "increased sense of urgency" meaning motivation issues.
I took it the same way. And if that's the case, then we have wasted a premium pick.
On the other hand putting him in as a punt returner may not be the best of Ideas.
He has never done it before on any level . He is way undersized to play on offense.
much less return punts.

So you're gonna line him up with what seems like a ball a hundred feet in the air
while 11 opposing players are running full speed toward you looking to break you in half.
And expect good things to happen?

I just feel he would be better served backing up Desean and learning while he works
on getting his body more prepared to play NFL football. Building confidence along the way.
 

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Snead was home with COVID.

I took it the same way. And if that's the case, then we have wasted a premium pick.
On the other hand putting him in as a punt returner may not be the best of Ideas.
He has never done it before on any level . He is way undersized to play on offense.
much less return punts.

So you're gonna line him up with what seems like a ball a hundred feet in the air
while 11 opposing players are running full speed toward you looking to break you in half.
And expect good things to happen?

I just feel he would be better served backing up Desean and learning while he works
on getting his body more prepared to play NFL football. Building confidence along the way.

Great point. Rams musta felt like a D-Jax to the IR is inevitable, to draft a guy who's never fielded punts.

Just for comps, per Rams website:
Darrell H, 5-8, 208
Dante Deayon, 5-9, 159
T Atwell, 5-9, 165
D Williams, 5-9, 187
Raymond Calais, 5-9, 188
D-Jax, 5-10, 175
 

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I've said it before, I wish that when the Rams receive a kick into the endzone they would just take a knee. Put Kupp back there and just let him fair catch every punt. Every time they return one there always seems to be a flag and they end up with worst field position. Tell me the last time the Rams scored on a punt or kick return.
 

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So let me get this straight, we're firing our D-coordinator & our special teams coach, and want rid of our top draft pick. Things seem awful bleak in Rams world.
Oh, wait a minute
 

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Hate to remind everyone, but back in 2016 the Rams had a first round pick that didnt start the first 9 games

Just sayin
 

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Hate to remind everyone, but back in 2016 the Rams had a first round pick that didnt start the first 9 games

Just sayin
I'm sorry Rhody I just have no idea about this whole 'first round pick" terminology you speak of.
I have heard stories of a long ago time when legend speaks of this whole
wizardry of "First round pick" but I always just considered it to be some sort of lore
of times before our existence.