Matthew Stafford Contract Status

[Allen2McVay]

Wait! Please esplain that to me. I missed out on the crazy pills.

Sometimes I think So Ram functions on a plain that the rest of us can't imagine, let alone comprehend.

 

[dieterbrock]

Sometimes I think So Ram functions on a plain that the rest of us can't imagine, let alone comprehend.

He's the ROD version of Descartes

 

[majrleaged]

If Shanahan could win with Jimmy G., so could McVay. So I don't think we are totally screwed.

With that said, Stafford is far better than Jimmy and 90% of the quarterbacks out there. They'll get something done.

Jimmy G is a very limited QB. Also pretty brittle. He is way more reliant on the system then Goff. Stafford can carry a team that is limping as shown in the SB. Jimmy G, with one of the most talented team in the NFL disappeared in the SB.

I want to win the SB. If the Rams want to win the SB, Stafford is the only choice. If the Rams think the future is more important then Stafford is gone and we can look forward to Jimmy G getting us to the playoffs.

 

[Memphis Ram]

Jimmy G is a very limited QB. Also pretty brittle. He is way more reliant on the system then Goff. Stafford can carry a team that is limping as shown in the SB. Jimmy G, with one of the most talented team in the NFL disappeared in the SB.

I want to win the SB. If the Rams want to win the SB, Stafford is the only choice. If the Rams think the future is more important then Stafford is gone and we can look forward to Jimmy G getting us to the playoffs.

But if not for a dropped INT in the NFC Championship Game Stafford may not have gotten to the Super Bowl.

Stafford is a pretty good QB, but he's also been pretty lucky. I don't know things ended up, but at one point he was leading the league in dropped INTs this past season.

If a few of those dropped INTs were caught things might look a bit different.

 

[WestCoastRam]

But if not for a dropped INT in the NFC Championship Game Stafford may not have gotten to the Super Bowl.

Stafford is a pretty good QB, but he's also been pretty lucky. I don't know things ended up, but at one point he was leading the league in dropped INTs this past season.

If a few of those dropped INTs were caught things might look a bit different.

Stafford is a high variance QB, always has been. Granted, the best QBs these days are just not turning the ball over or having those kinda plays but I'd rather go with Stafford for 1-2 more years than any QB option we have in that time frame since Mahomes, Allen and Lamar don't grow on trees.

And then I hope he gets on a heater... cause when Stafford's on a heater like he was in the playoffs that year and most of last year he's equal to those guys in terms of quality and the turnover worthy plays fall off for the most part.

 

[majrleaged]

But if not for a dropped INT in the NFC Championship Game Stafford may not have gotten to the Super Bowl.

Stafford is a pretty good QB, but he's also been pretty lucky. I don't know things ended up, but at one point he was leading the league in dropped INTs this past season.

If a few of those dropped INTs were caught things might look a bit different.

I guess we could just get a guy who plays it safe and checks it down when the game is on the line.

 

[Memphis Ram]

I guess we could just get a guy who plays it safe and checks it down when the game is on the line.

If that player can also do something with his legs, keeps the turnovers down, and the money / cap space saved from not paying Stafford helps ensure the Rams can maintain some of the young talent (Nacua, Turner, Jackson, Young, Avila) while adding other talent, I'd be open to it.

I just can't help but to consider that mega cap hit via dead cap space coming down the pike with an extension at the same time the team will be trying to keep some of their young talent. I guess that why they say it's best to go for it with a QB on his rookie deal.

There's just more than one way to skin a cat.

I guess I have a bit more confidence in McVay than I should.

 

[Allen2McVay]

Stafford is a pretty good QB, but he's also been pretty lucky.

That’s where you lose me.

 

[Memphis Ram]

This is truly a game of inches.
If Garoppolo doesn't overthrow Emmanuel Sanders in the Super Bowl vs. the Chiefs or Jawkowski Tart doesn't drop that punt INT in the NFC Championship Game the perceptions of both QBs would be different.

 

[Memphis Ram]

That’s where you lose me.

Having so many dropped INTs isn't lucky? I'm not saying he isn't a good QB.

 

[JonRam99]

There really are very few quarterbacks I would trade for Stafford right now. I wouldn't even trade him for the number one pick in the draft. With Four Minutes to play in a hurry up offense he got us within 10 yd of the Super Bowl and we didn't get in because of a couple of boneheaded mistakes on the offensive line. Everything else is just contractual speculation and straight up crazy talk LOL. The rams just need to work something out with him.

 

[OntarioRam]

There really are very few quarterbacks I would trade for Stafford right now. I wouldn't even trade him for the number one pick in the draft. With Four Minutes to play in a hurry up offense he got us within 10 yd of the Super Bowl and we didn't get in because of a couple of boneheaded mistakes on the offensive line. Everything else is just contractual speculation and straight up crazy talk LOL. The rams just need to work something out with him.

I agree. If there was a QB to really build around I'd think differently. But apparently none of the QBs would have been 1st rounders last year. So query how much you'd get trading the pick too.

The Rams are ready to win now. We are, for my money, the best team in the NFC - tied with a fully healthy Detroit because but for their injuries on defence no way they lose to Washington IMO and then who knows how far they go (but who knows how the Lions do next year with both coordinators gone, Dan Campbell is not a scheme guy, so he needs good coordinators to have his roster hit its fully potential - McVay is the brains in LA). Philly has a better roster, but the Rams have very significant advantages at the two most important positions (QB, head coach). So I think we are the slightly better team in the end. Not every position and aspect of a team has the same weighting/importnace. I think our playoff game vs. Philly showed that. Philly had the better roster on paper, but we should have won - thanks in large part to McVay schooling Siriani, I still don't know what he was doing calling long devleoping passing plays in his end zone, leading to safety, or at the very edge of FG range in a snow storm - just take the points, we drove them out of FG range and they had to punt. We lost the turnover battle significantly, and had to play on the road in a massive snowstorm as a warm weather team, and still really should have stole it at the end. We need to go all-in while we still have an elite QB and weak NFC. The only QB in the NFC that even comes close to Stafford is Jayden Daniel. We need to take advantage of this window. Mahomes. Allen. Lamar. Burrow. They're all AFC guys.

 

[Memphis Ram]

I agree. If there was a QB to really build around I'd think differently. But apparently none of the QBs would have been 1st rounders last year. So query how much you'd get trading the pick too.

The Rams are ready to win now. We are, for my money, the best team in the NFC - tied with a fully healthy Detroit because but for their injuries on defence no way they lose to Washington IMO and then who knows how far they go (but who knows how the Lions do next year with both coordinators gone, Dan Campbell is not a scheme guy, so he needs good coordinators to have his roster hit its fully potential - McVay is the brains in LA). Philly has a better roster, but the Rams have very significant advantages at the two most important positions (QB, head coach). So I think we are the slightly better team in the end. Not every position and aspect of a team has the same weighting/importnace. I think our playoff game vs. Philly showed that. Philly had the better roster on paper, but we should have won - thanks in large part to McVay schooling Siriani, I still don't know what he was doing calling long devleoping passing plays in his end zone, leading to safety, or at the very edge of FG range in a snow storm - just take the points, we drove them out of FG range and they had to punt. We lost the turnover battle significantly, and had to play on the road in a massive snowstorm as a warm weather team, and still really should have stole it at the end. We need to go all-in while we still have an elite QB and weak NFC. The only QB in the NFC that even comes close to Stafford is Jayden Daniel. We need to take advantage of this window. Mahomes. Allen. Lamar. Burrow. They're all AFC guys.

Sure but each season is different. For example, going into the 2024 season did you think the Rams were the best team in the NFC?

Couldn't another team not mentioned have a good draft and/or good free agency period and upset the apple cart?

49ers minus all the injuries? The youngest team in the NFC in the Packers? etc.

 

[Loyal]

Agree that this is a.... somewhat unique situation, but it's not just Stafford. It seems like every year we have drama with McVay and/or Kupp as well. Before that it was AD. Who knows, maybe this shit just irritates me more in my old age...

Old bastid!

 

[Allen2McVay]

Having so many dropped INTs isn't lucky? I'm not saying he isn't a good QB.

I just think he is a whole lot better than ‘pretty good’ and good’.

 

[Memphis Ram]

I just think he is a whole lot better than ‘pretty good’ and good’.

Ok what is your adjective? Either way dropped INTs are lucky.

 

[0311rams]

I don't think McVay's message was just for Stafford. It was for the front office as well. McVay has nothing to do with the finances other than letting them know what he wants. What he wants is no drama going into next season. It must have been more of a distraction than we know or McVay thinks it was.

He not a good coach if he's not aware of the finances, just sayin...

 

[Tumak61]

I don't think the Rams front office has an issue paying Stafford the going rate for 2025. I think the problem will be if Stafford thinks he can play for 2 or 3 more seasons and wants them all guaranteed. That's going to be a problem and I see the situation dragging on into training camp if he wants a big multi season guarantee.

 

[Allen2McVay]

Ok what is your adjective? Either way dropped INTs are lucky.

I posted the other day, that if it was one game, one playoff-run, or one season, the only quarterbacks I would prefer to Matthew Stafford are Mahomes, Allen, Burrow and Jackson. That's it. His mental toughness and clutch play are elite in my opinion.

As far as 'adjectives' ... personally, I don't over-use the word Great because it under-values true-greatness which, I believe, is rare. I would call Stafford "top-tier" and "exceptional" ... plus "clutch" which I consider critical to an NFL QB.

As to your 'lucky' question ... Yes, a dropped interception is 'lucky' for the QB that threw the pass, just as an interception that is deflected and lands in a defender's hands is 'un-lucky' for the QB. However, I am not familiar with stats that measure dropped interceptions, or how accurate that stat may be. Furthermore, I don't know where Stafford stands with regard to such a stat.

In your post that I initially responded to, even you said ... 'I don't know how things ended up'

 

[RamFan503]

Ok what is your adjective? Either way dropped INTs are lucky.

And other QBs don’t have them? Stafford may have a few more on paper but it also goes with his style of play. We’ve seen a couple that definitely should have been caught by the defender. But several also that would have been some difficult catches by an actual receiver. Staff’s throws often get up on a receiver/DB so fast that most DBs just can’t hold on to it.