Matthew Stafford Contract Status

[Loyal]

I don't think the Rams front office has an issue paying Stafford the going rate for 2025. I think the problem will be if Stafford thinks he can play for 2 or 3 more seasons and wants them all guaranteed. That's going to be a problem and I see the situation dragging on into training camp if he wants a big multi season guarantee.

I bet he gets 2 years gtd, and should.

 

[majrleaged]

I guess I have a bit more confidence in McVay than I should.

No, but there is an old saying, A bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush. They know exactly what they have in Stafford. They know he has what it takes to go all the way. Why would you dump that for a maybe. Especially when not long ago your traded away a maybe to get him.

I think it is a mistake for the Rams not to have an urgency in regard to Stafford's window. Thinking the future will be friendly to you and not taking advantage of what they have now is asking to be disappointed.

 

[majrleaged]

He not a good coach if he's not aware of the finances, just sayin...

But it isn't his job. He has to rely on another people to do that job and he wants it done now.

 

[dieterbrock]

Can’t lie, if Jalen Milroe ended up in horns it would be fun to see what McVay could do with him

 

[WestCoastRam]

If that player can also do something with his legs, keeps the turnovers down, and the money / cap space saved from not paying Stafford helps ensure the Rams can maintain some of the young talent (Nacua, Turner, Jackson, Young, Avila) while adding other talent, I'd be open to it.

I just can't help but to consider that mega cap hit via dead cap space coming down the pike with an extension at the same time the team will be trying to keep some of their young talent. I guess that why they say it's best to go for it with a QB on his rookie deal.

There's just more than one way to skin a cat.

I guess I have a bit more confidence in McVay than I should.

I totally get this, I just don't see that option out there.

 

[Memphis Ram]

I posted the other day, that if it was one game, one playoff-run, or one season, the only quarterbacks I would prefer to Matthew Stafford are Mahomes, Allen, Burrow and Jackson. That's it. His mental toughness and clutch play are elite in my opinion.

As far as 'adjectives' ... personally, I don't over-use the word Great because it under-values true-greatness which, I believe, is rare. I would call Stafford "top-tier" and "exceptional" ... plus "clutch" which I consider critical to an NFL QB.

As to your 'lucky' question ... Yes, a dropped interception is 'lucky' for the QB that threw the pass, just as an interception that is deflected and lands in a defender's hands is 'un-lucky' for the QB. However, I am not familiar with stats that measure dropped interceptions, or how accurate that stat may be. Furthermore, I don't know where Stafford stands with regard to such a stat.

In your post that I initially responded to, even you said ... 'I don't know how things ended up'

I can go with top-tier and clutch. Can't reach exceptional unless he sprays the ball around more. But he usually has locked in on one guy far more than others.

I never even considered the stat until I read it on twitter. At the time he was said to be 2 ahead of Hurts. But I do recall seeing some and screaming at the TV. Maybe someone with access to NextGen or whatever source may have it.

And other QBs don’t have them? Stafford may have a few more on paper but it also goes with his style of play. We’ve seen a couple that definitely should have been caught by the defender. But several also that would have been some difficult catches by an actual receiver. Staff’s throws often get up on a receiver/DB so fast that most DBs just can’t hold on to it.

Never said other QBs don't have them. Just pointed out a stat I read online that he was leading in that area.
That style of play may lead to more dropped INTs. But I want more TDs to go along with them.

 

[Memphis Ram]

I totally get this, I just don't see that option out there.

I guess I'm just playing devil's advocate here really as options are limited.

But, if McVay is the offensive guy everyone says that he is, he should be able to do what Shanahan and O'Connell have done with lesser QBs.

 

[Memphis Ram]

Can’t lie, if Jalen Milroe ended up in horns it would be fun to see what McVay could do with him

It would be fun for awhile. Until the fumbles begin. I didn't get why he fumbled so much until those hand measurements came in.

 

[Memphis Ram]

No, but there is an old saying, A bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush. They know exactly what they have in Stafford. They know he has what it takes to go all the way. Why would you dump that for a maybe. Especially when not long ago your traded away a maybe to get him.

I think it is a mistake for the Rams not to have an urgency in regard to Stafford's window. Thinking the future will be friendly to you and not taking advantage of what they have now is asking to be disappointed.

If this team was much higher than 20th in points scored last year and Stafford wasn't looking for more money, I might lean more towards that assessment. But, I really believe that McVay could do that or better with Garoppolo going back to the heavy play action usage he used with Goff and much further away from the empty sets it was my understanding that Stafford prefers.

But, then again I really believe that McVay could make a 25 year old Zach Wilson who was thrown to the wolves entering the league as a junior in New York into the next former Jets QB to win Comeback player of the Year after Geno Smith (2023) and Sam Darnold (2024). So what do I know?

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

But if not for a dropped INT in the NFC Championship Game Stafford may not have gotten to the Super Bowl.

Stafford is a pretty good QB, but he's also been pretty lucky. I don't know things ended up, but at one point he was leading the league in dropped INTs this past season.

If a few of those dropped INTs were caught things might look a bit different.

This is truly a game of inches.
If Garoppolo doesn't overthrow Emmanuel Sanders in the Super Bowl vs. the Chiefs or Jawkowski Tart doesn't drop that punt INT in the NFC Championship Game the perceptions of both QBs would be different.

Dropped INTs happen to every QB, Jalen Ramsey dropped in the Super Bowl too.

Most of Stafford’s dropped INTs were late this season when his ribs were cracked.

 

[Memphis Ram]

Dropped INTs happen to every QB, Jalen Ramsey dropped in the Super Bowl too.

Most of Stafford’s dropped INTs were late this season when his ribs were cracked.

Of course. No one disputes that every QB has dropped INTs.

But I hope you are wrong because the stat I read about him leading the league was around midseason.

 

[DzRams]

I guess we could just get a guy who plays it safe and checks it down when the game is on the line.

I'm not sure this is fair or accurate. JG didn't just check down in week 18 against Seattle; he pushed the ball down the field.

I agree that he's limited but it's not due to him only checking down.

 

[dieterbrock]

It would be fun for awhile. Until the fumbles begin. I didn't get why he fumbled so much until those hand measurements came in.

It would be fun for awhile. Until the fumbles begin. I didn't get why he fumbled so much until those hand measurements came in.

Well I can’t imagine he’d reach zach Wilson level. 17 fumbles in 33 games. Yikes

 

[Memphis Ram]

Well I can’t imagine he’d reach zach Wilson level. 17 fumbles in 33 games. Yikes

Wilson's hands measured as 9 1/2" at combine. I wonder if he was just careless or just trying to do too much.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

Sometimes I think So Ram functions on a plain that the rest of us can't imagine, let alone comprehend.

I need to get really trashed one of these days and read all of So Rams posts to see if I can make sense of it. If I don't survive, you'll all know why!

 

[El Chapo Jr]

If that player can also do something with his legs, keeps the turnovers down, and the money / cap space saved from not paying Stafford helps ensure the Rams can maintain some of the young talent (Nacua, Turner, Jackson, Young, Avila) while adding other talent, I'd be open to it.

I just can't help but to consider that mega cap hit via dead cap space coming down the pike with an extension at the same time the team will be trying to keep some of their young talent. I guess that why they say it's best to go for it with a QB on his rookie deal.

There's just more than one way to skin a cat.

I guess I have a bit more confidence in McVay than I should.

That's the dilemma the Rams have to sort out with it all being dependent on what Stafford asks for. As long as it isn't crazy we should pay him, he's by far our best chance at winning a SB next year and maybe the year after.

 

[Merlin]

Milroe's more of a Parcells type QB. Hand it off, hit teams deep off the play action, run and punish defenders when it's there which slows the rush. I don't think he's a good McVay fit because this offense runs on short to intermediate with quick reads and LOS anticipation to ensure we're in the right looks. Only thing he does that McVay will love is that beautiful deep ball he can throw. And I don't think that's enough, unless we get him after a slide where there's value which seems unlikely.

 

[dieterbrock]

Wilson's hands measured as 9 1/2" at combine. I wonder if he was just careless or just trying to do too much.

Just sheer panic. But like you said, it’s hard to judge when someone has been in such a tough situation. But sometimes it just exposes who someone is. I look at Wilson like Trey Lance. Terribly over drafted because of covid. Cant deny the arm talent though

 

[Ellard80]

Of course. No one disputes that every QB has dropped INTs.

But I hope you are wrong because the stat I read about him leading the league was around midseason.

You need to find this "he lead the league in dropped ints" evidence

Because I'm pretty sure I read the exact opposite = that he was one of the top 5 QB's in fewest turnover worthy plays.

 

[Memphis Ram]

You need to find this "he lead the league in dropped ints" evidence

Because I'm pretty sure I read the exact opposite = that he was one of the top 5 QB's in fewest turnover worthy plays.

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