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Allen2McVay

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People in this thread.


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Agree ... but Mr. Marbles was real ... and he freaked me out!
 

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Behold! The terrifying evil power of the Rams Fan Cam! Feast your eyes on this nightmarish dystopian hellscape!! Be afraid, be very afraid!

 

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Don’t want to be on camera and put into a database?

Don’t leave the house.

Cameras are EVERYWHERE now.

With AI advancements, tracking us will be easier & easier.

The only counter is to be an involved citizen, to work to make sure entities both public & private cannot misuse the data they are collecting.
Or…you can do what I do and wear a rubber dead president mask when you leave the house (I call it the Point Break maneuver).
 

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I have been studying native plants most of my life. I live in the Northeast where there is a lot of diverse foliage. I also hunt. It’s mostly for fun. However, for years I figured if anything ever happened to our current state, like a doomsday event, then I’d be able to keep my family alive.

Eventually I realized that foraging for calories would be a very difficult way to try to sustain yourself. Most of the wild edibles don’t taste great and they offer very little in calories. Hunting would be good until you run out of ammo.

It’s just like The Walking Dead. The strength is in community and growing crops and raising livestock. If you managed to do that then you put yourself into a stationary position that you need to defend and that others will want to acquire. It will be easy for others to acquire if it’s not surrounded by a big wall. So all of this prepping talk is a bit funny to me. It will come down to those that either kill or be killed, or those who hide and roam and are always at risk of being found and killed. Prepping will buy you time is all.
 

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Read up on it. One side accusing the side for a certain agenda? :yawn:

Kinda ironic many of the States pushing this are constantly the ones cleaning up after stronger hurricanes and can't keep the damn power on.



Yeah? And what does that entail? Is there a magic button on those program where we'll suddenly be Chinese style drones? I'm willing to bet our lives will continue on.



And passports and your job badges/profiles etc etc. Not to mention all the other info they have like birth certificates.



Lmao...the exact same story just aired on my news here. Didn't SoFi have this too when it opened? Lol
I figured it would be a mistake to get involved in a political discussion on this board. And I'm certainly not going to respond to all of those wild tangents and straw men you just ran with. The bottom line is, I've learned that when people like Andrew Yang tell you what they want, believe them. I said what I said, I believe what I said and it'll be my last word on the subject.
 
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The 4th Amendment is not applicable to voluntary transactions with private entities.

That does not make it morally or ethically right… but it’s not unconstitutional.
...but what happens when a "voluntary transaction with a private entity" is required, just to enter a store, buy gas, or go to the hospital? these are private entities yet they are necessary. And increasingly, federal "back doors" are embedded in said "private entity" transactions, including virtually all major social media. Life as we know it will soon require us to "voluntarily" surrender our natural rights.
 

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...but what happens when a "voluntary transaction with a private entity" is required, just to enter a store, buy gas, or go to the hospital? these are private entities yet they are necessary. And increasingly, federal "back doors" are embedded in said "private entity" transactions, including virtually all major social media. Life as we know it will soon require us to "voluntarily" surrender our natural rights.
Nobody is asserting that the government is doing the monitoring in this particular case, so it’s not a constitutional issue.
 

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That's cuz there's nothing to convince. Constantly referencing a fictional book from the 1940s...tho can be entertaining...isn't the testament for this so called control.

And what exactly are they going to contol?? And what are they going to do with me? I'm still waiting for that answer. Am i gonna transform into a cyborg? Or is this one of those things that ppl keep saying until they convince themselves it's true?

Show me something. Anything. Any actual evidence that shows this will happen other than "government plot to control the masses" blanket statements over and over.

I soon rather believe a real life planet of the apes rising will occur before any "control".

Btw One time I bought a bunch of cases of water and milk at once from the grocery store and no one gave a shit. I still had money to buy food the next week too. Shocking.
They are going to do this with you

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Already executed part of our exit strategy.

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Sounds like it's not as simple as "fake" or "not fake."

From what I've seen, it sounds like the NFL is indeed using "facial recognition technology" at all 32 NFL stadiums. However, it sounds like this tech is only being used for coaches and players and stadium employees and security etc... but NOT for the fans. Sounds like the purpose of the technology is to make sure that only properly credentialed people can get access to restricted areas-- and make it harder for people to access restricted areas with fake ID's.

Here's a couple links



And as for the high-resolution pics of fans in the stands? What ultra high-sensitive info is being gleaned, other than one's attendance at a football game?
Thanks for the links,
I read most of that in the post that is linked. There is a video inside of the link as well. At this time as you say it is being used on credentialed personnel which makes sense. The CP have all their info already entered into the database. Will they expand it and is the CP a perfect test group who knows?

Big picture I am more like @Elmgrovegnome You can delay but you won't last so live it up now.

also, anyone using Orwellian society as an example there have been a lot better books and examples given in the last 75 years. Orwell just made it easy to read for anyone. Collapse by Jared Diamond is a good one and go back and read the CM after the prefaces around page 14 it's under 70 pages from that point.
 

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Nobody is asserting that the government is doing the monitoring in this particular case, so it’s not a constitutional issue.
Understood. But at some point, to enforce "15 minute city" policies, the feds (possibly to comply w/ world "health" policies) might require the NFL to surrender this "private" data.
Scenario: you buy expensive tickets to a Rams game. But, oh no!! you used up your "15 minute city" "credits" to go see your sick grandma in Sacramento. So you sneak into the game without your phone, thinking you won't get tracked & subsequently penalized. Knowing a football ticket is a high-priority item that many fans will try to skirt the rules for, the feds require the NFL to give them this data, so they can see who's complying with their credit limits & who's not (as they've done with "private" social media platforms). And even if they don't catch you, you can't possibly post, text or call (or even verbally tell?) someone about how you are / were there, or brag about the game, etc., or else your "credits" will get penalized & you can't make it to work until the first of the month, when your "credits" get refreshed. ...or something very similar to that.

This is NOT an crazy tin-foil hat scenario. As an architect, because it's a challenging "planning" exercise to "save the planet" via "green building" efforts, there's more & more excitement amongst my colleagues about "15 minute city" policies being enacted & enforced, just like they currently do in China -- and in London, and other big euro cities. Even in the small city I live in, our city council is talking about it. So, it's coming down the pipe, faster than you think.

IMHO, this is also NOT a political issue; it's a human rights issue. It means that my very existence is a "crime", and my liberties must be restricted by people who fly high above us in their $20m private jets & sail the world in their $100m+ private yachts, thinking they're doing the world a favor. Really, all I want is just some life, liberty & pursue a little bit of happiness in exchange for a lifetime career of long work weeks here in the Midwest. Inherent, "natural" rights that I thought were enshrined in our Constitution. But if these rights aren't "natural" rights, i.e. they are "permitted" to me by my government, then they aren't rights at all. They are "permits" only, which may be revoked at any time.

So ya, I used to be in the "I don't have anything to worry about because I've done nothing wrong" crowd; but if my very existence is "wrong", and I must pay for my sin of living, then I'm not living at all & my rights are meaningless.
 

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Seriously? Exactly how does CA fare with keeping the lights on during major earthquakes or wild fires? Lame example...

Also, it seems that more people are fleeing states like, say CA, in favor of places "in the dark" like FL than the other way around.
Earthquakes have nothing to do with climate change.
Wildfire outages are typically localized. Wildfires are all across the country.

CA always leads in climate issues. Always. And if you were in LA in the 80's and remember what really bad smog was like then.. versus now, you'll understand that these kinds of laws are good.

America was built by adventurers.. people moving FORWARD. Not backward.

CA is damn expensive.. and there are absolutely some regulatory issues related to that.. unfortunately a lot of the biggest cost issue.. housing.. is good old-fashioned NIMBY.
 

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I figured it would be a mistake to get involved in a political discussion on this board. And I'm certainly not going to respond to all of those wild tangents and straw men you just ran with. The bottom line is, I've learned that when people like Andrew Yang tell you what they want, believe them. I said what I said, I believe what I said and it'll be my last word on the subject.

Nothin strawman about it. You were the one that brought up ESG and Andrew Yang. So i looked it up and responded accordingly. Pretty obvious what's going on there. Found nothing related to Yang tho.


Seriously? Exactly how does CA fare with keeping the lights on during major earthquakes or wild fires? Lame example...

Also, it seems that more people are fleeing states like, say CA, in favor of places "in the dark" like FL than the other way around.

Not really a lame example. You're comparing geological events from tectonic activity and mudslides vs. increasing and high intensity storms from changing atmospheric conditions. That's being denied then look like idiots when the power goes out from
Cat 1 and lesser storms and takes more than a week to restore.

As for ppl leaving CA, there's multiple variables for that, which isn't what i'm really trying to figure out here. What is this control and how will i be controlled?

They are going to do this with you

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odVMxRrZtUk






That's a nice Red target you have there!


A 90 second video about a response to violent riots doesn't exactly outline the method for governmental control.
 

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LOL yeah you know, the traditional red with white trim barn. They are everywhere throughout rural communities across our nation. Not very original but functional.
Honestly, always wondered why red not other colors? Wonder if it was cheaper or easier to produce back in the day?
 

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I have been studying native plants most of my life. I live in the Northeast where there is a lot of diverse foliage. I also hunt. It’s mostly for fun. However, for years I figured if anything ever happened to our current state, like a doomsday event, then I’d be able to keep my family alive.

Eventually I realized that foraging for calories would be a very difficult way to try to sustain yourself. Most of the wild edibles don’t taste great and they offer very little in calories. Hunting would be good until you run out of ammo.

It’s just like The Walking Dead. The strength is in community and growing crops and raising livestock. If you managed to do that then you put yourself into a stationary position that you need to defend and that others will want to acquire. It will be easy for others to acquire if it’s not surrounded by a big wall. So all of this prepping talk is a bit funny to me. It will come down to those that either kill or be killed, or those who hide and roam and are always at risk of being found and killed. Prepping will buy you time is all.
Yes. This is why location is so important. If you are in the suburbs all you need is a bugout kit. Of course getting out of the suburbs becomes a dangerous proposition, since there will be so many on the roads, in gridlock, with their most treasured possessions. Robberies on the highway will block up the arteries and provide more opportunity for those so inclined.

Ideal locations are townships out of the reach of all that. These places will do what mankind has done since time immemorial, which is stand up militias to defend themselves and their way of life. Some will end up being overrun, but being a hard target as a well defended town is the goal.

Also some areas and regions lend themselves better to this basic truth. This is once again where being too close to the cities you're lumped in with Karens and wealthy Joes who couldn't find the sharp end of a blade. Regions with much hunting and rifle know-how will be particularly ideal in this regard.

Obviously this conversation has gone a bit over the deep end, but it's something that is on people's minds nowadays. Certainly it is on my mind. Not that SoFi is going to be the center of some malicious conspiracy, but rather the recognition of an alignment of elements that have potential to come together in an unfortunate manner.
 

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Nothin strawman about it. You were the one that brought up ESG and Andrew Yang. So i looked it up and responded accordingly. Pretty obvious what's going on there. Found nothing related to Yang tho.




Not really a lame example. You're comparing geological events from tectonic activity and mudslides vs. increasing and high intensity storms from changing atmospheric conditions. That's being denied then look like idiots when the power goes out from
Cat 1 and lesser storms and takes more than a week to restore.

As for ppl leaving CA, there's multiple variables for that, which isn't what i'm really trying to figure out here. What is this control and how will i be controlled?



A 90 second video about a response to violent riots doesn't exactly outline the method for governmental control.
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A 90 second video regarding people rebelling from being forcibly and systematically killed, raped, stabbed, robbed, and forced to pay their taxes to support said people doing said actions?

And the PM calling them extremist?

Why is it always someone like this that is the most authoritarian people?

That doesn’t qualify as governmental control? And expect people to take it? :laugh2:

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You'd be a great Borg! lol
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Agh shit, I better peter this conversation out since it's on the frontier of the other side of banned subjects! Other wise place turns into Shitter.
 

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Understood. But at some point, to enforce "15 minute city" policies, the feds (possibly to comply w/ world "health" policies) might require the NFL to surrender this "private" data.
Scenario: you buy expensive tickets to a Rams game. But, oh no!! you used up your "15 minute city" "credits" to go see your sick grandma in Sacramento. So you sneak into the game without your phone, thinking you won't get tracked & subsequently penalized. Knowing a football ticket is a high-priority item that many fans will try to skirt the rules for, the feds require the NFL to give them this data, so they can see who's complying with their credit limits & who's not (as they've done with "private" social media platforms). And even if they don't catch you, you can't possibly post, text or call (or even verbally tell?) someone about how you are / were there, or brag about the game, etc., or else your "credits" will get penalized & you can't make it to work until the first of the month, when your "credits" get refreshed. ...or something very similar to that.

This is NOT an crazy tin-foil hat scenario.
Hey @Angry Ram... here's someone with a real attempt to describe exactly how you can be controlled if there are hi-res cameras in stadiums. Clearly, if you use up your "15-minute city credits" to visit your sick grandma in Sacramento, the NFL would then hand over to the Feds the pic of you at the game. At this point, your "credits" would get penalized and then you couldn't make it to work until your credits are refreshed!

Again, this is most clearly NOT a crazy tin-foil hat scenario.
 

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Hey @Angry Ram... here's someone with a real attempt to describe exactly how you can be controlled if there are hi-res cameras in stadiums. Clearly, if you use up your "15-minute city credits" to visit your sick grandma in Sacramento, the NFL would then hand over to the Feds the pic of you at the game. At this point, your "credits" would get penalized and then you couldn't make it to work until your credits are refreshed!

Again, this is most clearly NOT a crazy tin-foil hat scenario.
Nope, not at all. Once the "climate emergency" is married to the "world health" treaty, it's over.
Compliance will be mandatory for all "voluntary private" activities.
Ya maybe the NFL won't turn over their facial recognition data, but maybe they will.