Facial Recognition of Fans by Owners

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A few fanatical terrorists blow up a plane. Everybody has to have to go through security check.

A few idiot fans get into fights. Everybody has to be watched closely.

Because of a few morons everybody gets to be inconvenienced with new procedures.
 

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Yeah where you live is crucial if the system crashes. If you're in the suburbs you will be subject to roving bands under warlords that will inevitably rise in the population centers. They'll eat the cities out of food then start ranging out to find fresh meat for their BBQ. So prepping in the suburbs is a waste of time. Need to have a plan to get out if that's your situation, an exit strategy as it were, once certain thresholds have been met.

I don't think most modern folks are ready for the savagery that will follow this type of event. And the ones who aren't, i.e. the rationalizers, are going to be on the menu.
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Are we willing to give up privacy so that technology can inhibit bad behavior? What happens when they want to inhibit how you live your life?
Purely hypothetical.

They wanna take my picture, fine. I hope it helps catch all the jerks who try to spoil other people's fun at the stadium.

They're not doing it to catch drunk hooligans? So are they trying to follow me for some reason? Thanks! But I'm not that important. Next I'm gonna read that Zuck will steal all my facebook pics and not give 'em back.
 

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Already executed part of our exit strategy.
Yep same. Have to admit the yard work is always shitty, particularly this year with even more rainfall than normal so it's been like cutting back jungle and the fruit trees went apeshit. But it's nice to have property to plant potatoes or whatever if we need to.

And I haven't been in traffic since the last time I drove to StL to scoop kids on their visit. Country living is great. :clinkingbeer:
 

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The government has maintained facial recognition and GPS tabs on people for years. What, don’t believe me? Open your wallet and pull out your Driver’s License. It’s all there.

As for spying on people like us, I believe the government has better things to do than keep tabs on me and my less than glorified life.

As for @Loyal , I’d be concerned about the government’s interest in your collection of hentai tentacle porn.
 

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I guess I haven't been paying attention. Can you show me this China style control??
I didn't say it was already here -- I stated "there are many people in this country in positions of power who would eagerly impose" such a system if they could.

I assume you're familiar with Blackrock's (and others) ESG initiatives? This is not a government system, obviously, but the idea is the same -- to impose certain values on companies. But Biden’s SEC proposed a climate change regime for companies that included ESG scores. 2020 Democrat presidential candidate Andrew Yang proposed a system in which a government-run mobile app rewards Americans with “digital social credits” (DSCs) for good behavior. And he's not alone.

It may be mostly on the fringes right now, but that's where this kind of thing always starts. There are lots of itchy authoritarian fingers out there just eager and anxious to implement systems designed to drive behavior they deem acceptable. It's the nature of man.
 

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Told you so @Loyal


The internet is abuzz over a tweet claiming the Cowboys and NFL were set to use facial recognition on fans. The problem is — that's not true. The false post gained thousands of shares while the factual post from the NFL's PR rep only got 24 shares. DALLAS - Misinformation can spread quickly on social media.
 
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I assume you're familiar with Blackrock's (and others) ESG initiatives? This is not a government system, obviously, but the idea is the same -- to impose certain values on companies. But Biden’s SEC proposed a climate change regime for companies that included ESG scores. 2020 Democrat presidential candidate Andrew Yang proposed a system in which a government-run mobile app rewards Americans with “digital social credits” (DSCs) for good behavior. And he's not alone.

Read up on it. One side accusing the side for a certain agenda? :yawn:

Kinda ironic many of the States pushing this are constantly the ones cleaning up after stronger hurricanes and can't keep the damn power on.

It may be mostly on the fringes right now, but that's where this kind of thing always starts. There are lots of itchy authoritarian fingers out there just eager and anxious to implement systems designed to drive behavior they deem acceptable. It's the nature of man.

Yeah? And what does that entail? Is there a magic button on those program where we'll suddenly be Chinese style drones? I'm willing to bet our lives will continue on.

The government has maintained facial recognition and GPS tabs on people for years. What, don’t believe me? Open your wallet and pull out your Driver’s License. It’s all there.

And passports and your job badges/profiles etc etc. Not to mention all the other info they have like birth certificates.

Told you so @Loyal


The internet is abuzz over a tweet claiming the Cowboys and NFL were set to use facial recognition on fans. The problem is — that's not true. The false post gained thousands of shares while the factual post from the NFL's PR rep only got 24 shares. DALLAS - Misinformation can spread quickly on social media.

Lmao...the exact same story just aired on my news here. Didn't SoFi have this too when it opened? Lol
 

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Loyal is correct on this, so is Merlin. blackbart has it right.
Not much point into trying to convince the masses on this stuff.
They will come to the same conclusion either because they finally wake up. Or when its too late and they are scrambling for scraps and safety.
Guess what HCs favorite book is ? 1984, fact.
Its called predictive programing to soften you up to the idea of the mass control and surveillance.
What to you think all the digital dollar stuff is about ?
Its about control. By too much meat or ammo and they cut off your funds. They actually want this kind of money to have a expiration date. The folks behind this stuff have actually came out and said as much, they have too.
When the shit finally hits the fan all you normies are going to have to find yourself a educated "conspiracy theorist" to find out what the hell is going on !
 

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As for spying on people like us, I believe the government has better things to do than keep tabs on me and my less than glorified life.
Anonymity protects us all right now. Nobody has the manpower to sort the data we are accumulating. But emergence of AI will change that due to their ability to sort massive data and quickly find the needle.

It will bring advantages, like quickly finding criminals. But it will also support more nefarious uses and we aren't stacking things in order to combat those threats.

But hey I would love to be wrong on this as well as some other projections my mental world simulator is churning out.
 

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Loyal is correct on this, so is Merlin. blackbart has it right.
Not much point into trying to convince the masses on this stuff.
They will come to the same conclusion either because they finally wake up. Or when its too late and they are scrambling for scraps and safety.
Guess what HCs favorite book is ? 1984, fact.
Its called predictive programing to soften you up to the idea of the mass control and surveillance.
What to you think all the digital dollar stuff is about ?
Its about control. By too much meat or ammo and they cut off your funds. They actually want this kind of money to have a expiration date. The folks behind this stuff have actually came out and said as much, they have too.
When the shit finally hits the fan all you normies are going to have to find yourself a educated "conspiracy theorist" to find out what the hell is going on !

That's cuz there's nothing to convince. Constantly referencing a fictional book from the 1940s...tho can be entertaining...isn't the testament for this so called control.

And what exactly are they going to contol?? And what are they going to do with me? I'm still waiting for that answer. Am i gonna transform into a cyborg? Or is this one of those things that ppl keep saying until they convince themselves it's true?

Show me something. Anything. Any actual evidence that shows this will happen other than "government plot to control the masses" blanket statements over and over.

I soon rather believe a real life planet of the apes rising will occur before any "control".

Btw One time I bought a bunch of cases of water and milk at once from the grocery store and no one gave a shit. I still had money to buy food the next week too. Shocking.
 

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Told you so @Loyal


The internet is abuzz over a tweet claiming the Cowboys and NFL were set to use facial recognition on fans. The problem is — that's not true. The false post gained thousands of shares while the factual post from the NFL's PR rep only got 24 shares. DALLAS - Misinformation can spread quickly on social media.
Sounds like it's not as simple as "fake" or "not fake."

From what I've seen, it sounds like the NFL is indeed using "facial recognition technology" at all 32 NFL stadiums. However, it sounds like this tech is only being used for coaches and players and stadium employees and security etc... but NOT for the fans. Sounds like the purpose of the technology is to make sure that only properly credentialed people can get access to restricted areas-- and make it harder for people to access restricted areas with fake ID's.

Here's a couple links



And as for the high-resolution pics of fans in the stands? What ultra high-sensitive info is being gleaned, other than one's attendance at a football game?
 
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That's cuz there's nothing to convince. Constantly referencing a fictional book from the 1940s...tho can be entertaining...isn't the testament for this so called control.

And what exactly are they going to contol?? And what are they going to do with me? I'm still waiting for that answer. Am i gonna transform into a cyborg? Or is this one of those things that ppl keep saying until they convince themselves it's true?

Show me something. Anything. Any actual evidence that shows this will happen other than "government plot to control the masses" blanket statements over and over.

I soon rather believe a real life planet of the apes rising will occur before any "control".

Btw One time I bought a bunch of cases of water and milk at once from the grocery store and no one gave a shit. I still had money to buy food the next week too. Shocking.

I'm convinced that there is a sort of mind control going on, just not the way it's mentioned so far in this thread. It's how propaganda works, right?



View: https://www.npr.org/2022/08/09/1116281152/how-the-republican-party-came-to-embrace-conspiracy-theories-and-denialism


It's also similar to the rhetoric we heard from the Tea Party in 2010 - you know, the famous don't retreat, reload from Sarah Palin that - talking about, you know, throwing bricks through the windows of Democratic lawmakers, again, talking about the tyranny and of what the government is trying to impose going after people, images of candidates shooting off guns, much as we're seeing now. So it doesn't take a whole lot where we are right now for things to get out of hand. We've seen rising violence from right-wing extremists. We really need our leaders - opinion leaders and lawmakers to step in and calm things down. But they're doing exactly the opposite, and they're pouring gasoline on the fire.
GROSS: You're referring to Republican leaders?

MILBANK: Yes. That's what they're doing right now. It's reckless rhetoric. It is turning people against the government, turning people against the FBI and the Justice Department. And it is only natural to expect that this is the kind of thing that will lead people to desperation and to take matters into their own hands.


We think now about the big lie. You know, how can so many people believe something that's false? What I think they learned with Vince Foster was even if you sort of know that it's not true, you can just keep repeating it or saying, we need to investigate this or we're just asking questions. It leaves the episode open for a period of time.
And, you know, a couple of years later, I think it was only 30, 35% of people accepted the truth that Vince Foster died by suicide. So that became sort of a template that could be used on and on, you know, whether it was Sarah Palin with the death panels, whether it was the birther libel, that Barack Obama wasn't born in the United States, whether it was the claim that Saddam Hussein was responsible for 9/11 and so on. The idea was you - if you just kept repeating it or suggesting that it was a possibility, well, a large number of Americans would accept it, regardless of the facts.
 
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I guess I’m weird in that I don’t like giving private companies my info and therefore the govt , since private companies rarely refuse giving personal information to the govt when asked. Twenty years ago until the last few years, they didn’t have the ability to gather vast amounts of data for no other reason than control. They want the China method to control those who are critical thinkers and possible dissidents.
This is no King of Hill stupid cartoon. The pot is slowly coming to boil and I choose to recognize and not die like a compliant frog.
Yeah - just think your vote might not count & elections might be a farce like other places in the world.

Go to most American Airports & say. Cheese. You give your ID & then gave to look into a camera.

I wonder if AI is going to know what I’m thinking next.It’s not like goggle,apple,or Amazon aren’t always in your house knowing when your talking a dump(twrecks).
 

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Read up on it. One side accusing the side for a certain agenda? :yawn:

Kinda ironic many of the States pushing this are constantly the ones cleaning up after stronger hurricanes and can't keep the damn power on.
Seriously? Exactly how does CA fare with keeping the lights on during major earthquakes or wild fires? Lame example...

Also, it seems that more people are fleeing states like, say CA, in favor of places "in the dark" like FL than the other way around.
 

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I don't look at the Oculus, I watch the actual game on my laptop. I haven't been to a stadium since the 80's, but even if it's been going on for a while, it still blows.
Just to clarify, it’s not being viewed on the Oculus. On the Rams website there is a page you can go to and basically see most every seat in the stadium for each game. I thought imitially it was kinda cool, but in hindsight it is a lil scary. Then again the growing amount of public cams in general is pretty scary too.