Do you think Noteboom is still the left tackle of the future?

[Rams43]

About LOT in particular and entire OL in general...

Noteboom appears to me to be a more than adequate replacement for Big Whit, maybe as soon as midseason, depending on how Whit holds up. A PFF pass blocking rating in the mid 80’s is pretty damned good. Boom’s run blocking is not stellar but he can and should improve there. To call it piss poor is pure hyperbole.

Other positives for Boom are his football smarts, lack of penalties, knowing his playbook and knowing his assignments while reading D’s. In short, Rams should be okay at LOT with Boom in ‘22 and beyond if Boom doesn’t go crazy in his salary demands. I’d give him a B+ grade with upside, tbh.

Funny thing about Hav is that everyone loves his run blocking, understandably, but few criticize his pass blocking. He’s the mirror image of Boom on pass and run blocking. Meanwhile, we seem to have several capable players already on the roster that could replace Hav right now. Namely Boom, Evans, Edwards, and probably Brewer. Trading Hav is not only possible but would be a smart cap move while picking up a handy pick in this draft. I would do it if I could.

I love our 2 OG’s, but Corbett is a FA next year. OTOH, there seems to be no shortage of candidates to possibly start at OG in ‘22. Personally, I’m optimistic about the Anchrum kid there.

Which brings us to the elephant in the OL room. Center looks like a Blythe signing (or someone like him) as a placeholder while they draft the future starting C high. Hopefully, that draftee will be a 10 year stud that can beat out Blythe by November. I would have fought hard to snag Linsley, myself. Restructuring Stafford would have done the trick easily and C could have been set for 5 years with a proven stud. But I digress.

 

[Merlin]

Where do they fit though? Between Noteboom, brewer, Whitworth, havenstein, and Evans, who goes?

Whoever loses the competition. Competition can be wasteful to a roster if you have too much to where you lose guys, but other than that it's always a good thing. The guy who loses gets cut and the guys who are left are better.

Almost every time I run a draft simulator it seems like Eichenberg is on the board. If that dude is there I don't know that you can pass on him. I don't think I could pass on him and LT is a need as well as a cornerstone position.

 

[Ram_Rally]

Whoever loses the competition. Competition can be wasteful to a roster if you have too much to where you lose guys, but other than that it's always a good thing. The guy who loses gets cut and the guys who are left are better.

Almost every time I run a draft simulator it seems like Eichenberg is on the board. If that dude is there I don't know that you can pass on him. I don't think I could pass on him and LT is a need as well as a cornerstone position.

I feel the same. Especially because I think he can pay RT too. I just have a sneaky suspicion that the Rams like their depth. But we'll see how long that lasts.

 

[BonifayRam]

Havenstein is trade bait for me. The Rams need to improve on draft opportunities imo, Hav is the remaining pawn.
Right now, i'm lacking confidence in Evans, but he still has time to show better. jmo.

Funny thing about Hav is that everyone loves his run blocking, understandably, but few criticize his pass blocking. He’s the mirror image of Boom on pass and run blocking. Meanwhile, we seem to have several capable players already on the roster that could replace Hav right now. Namely Boom, Evans, Edwards, and probably Brewer. Trading Hav is not only possible but would be a smart cap move while picking up a handy pick in this draft. I would do it if I could.
Which brings us to the elephant in the OL room. Center looks like a Blythe signing (or someone like him) as a placeholder while they draft the future starting C high. Hopefully, that draftee will be a 10 year stud that can beat out Blythe by November. I would have fought hard to snag Linsley, myself. Restructuring Stafford would have done the trick easily and C could have been set for 5 years with a proven stud. But I digress.

It very well might be that Snead/McVay's starting RT Havenstein is being retained back in the Rams heard till the very end of free agency for use as the magic Trump Card in delivering the Rams an excellent performing veteran starting center by trade. When the center trail finally plays out & turns cold then ........

Rams do have more solid RT prospects than any other team in the NFL. The Rams also have no proven valid starting center on this roster.

And yes Snead will draft a LT in this upcoming draft.

 

[Merlin]

I think Boom is too weak to be a starter. His impending FA next year on top of that closes that particular window of hope where the Rams elect to invest in him this year. In fact if the Rams draft a tackle this year Boom probably won't make the final roster.

 

[BonifayRam]

I think Boom is too weak to be a starter. His impending FA next year on top of that closes that particular window of hope where the Rams elect to invest in him this year. In fact if the Rams draft a tackle this year Boom probably won't make the final roster.

Yep, an OT prospect with those extra-long arms being 34 1/2 inches & that sorry short wing span of only 83 1/2 inches who can only put up 27 reps on the bench @ the combine is pathetically in a weakened state for an OT in today's NFL....

Then there's this weak brain issue where Noteboom was named to the Big 12 All-Academic team all four seasons & was a graduate student during his senior season in the fall. Noteboom, who has played both tackle spots in college is not versatile enough either. Then there those impressive fast times in the 40 & 10 yard split ....sure not needed playing OT.It was just sickening the way Noteboom when interviewed the last 3 seasons speaks about how he has relished his role as an apprentice behind AW. What a Suck Up!


Even when the Rams draft an LT this draft the chance that Noteboom will not make the roster IMO is ZERO!

Better chances are that Ram OT's who are on the roster now that will not be on the roster in September are likely Havenstein & Evans after being utilized involving Snead trades.

 

[Riverumbbq]

We all know that McVay likes to fling the ball around, on a few occasions hurting the team with a lack of balance, and that was with Goff and his inability to show success with the deep ball these last couple of years. If Noteboom is moved to RT, his assets at pass pro could certainly be beneficial to Stafford if he's going to be gunslinging. If his run blocking is more problematic, then a blocking TE or even a FB can help, it can even be off-set somewhat by running Akers up the middle more or towards the left side, but if we are passing the ball at a higher percentage under Stafford, Noteboom might just flourish at RT. I'm not ready to write him off just yet. jmo.

 

[So Ram]

Yeah..... let's not do this - mkay?

Mcvay made a very bad mistake & he knows it & has said it. Maybe the language is not right.

I guess the biggest point is that The Rams depth on the offensive line might have both Brian Allen & Joe Noteboom both starting in the preseason with 2 more seasons as Rams. Edwards & Bobby Evans both got excellent game experience in the preseason. I believe that hurt both Noteboom & Allen by not getting preseason NFL experience & being thrown in against top NFL defenses.
I have never seen anything like that as an NFL.It was forward thinking of keeping players healthy. It was the lack of depth to me made it worse.Kromer & Mcvay both got lucky the first 2 seasons without injury upfront. If you ask why The Rams didn’t make the playoffs McVays only season as a NFL(Rams). Head coach it was from lack of such experience. Now Sean Mcvay talks about the importance of having someone like John Sullivan on The Rams roster.

My question is after cutting John Sullivan why is that such importance
to find that Center type of player in a guy like Austin Blythe as well ?

 

[Merlin]

Even when the Rams draft an LT this draft the chance that Noteboom will not make the roster IMO is ZERO!

It is possible I overstated my case there. Saying he wouldn't make the roster was over the top so you're right on that.

But for the rest I suggest watching more snaps where Boom is isolated. Then consider that he's a FA next year. Then consider that we're all in with a real LT who wants to win a Super Bowl this year. The guy does not fit from any aspect other than his value as a swing tackle. And I say swing tackle because his lack of strength stands out even more on the interior.

From there they seem to really be high on Anchrum. And I don't know if they keep him at tackle but if there's fire behind that smoke he should make a nice improvement jump in year two which is usual. At that point it makes me think swing tackle might be open competition this year in camp, in fact it seems likely to me.

 

[BonifayRam]

It is possible I overstated my case there. Saying he wouldn't make the roster was over the top so you're right on that.

But for the rest I suggest watching more snaps where Boom is isolated. Then consider that he's a FA next year. Then consider that we're all in with a real LT who wants to win a Super Bowl this year. The guy does not fit from any aspect other than his value as a swing tackle. And I say swing tackle because his lack of strength stands out even more on the interior.

From there they seem to really be high on Anchrum. And I don't know if they keep him at tackle but if there's fire behind that smoke he should make a nice improvement jump in year two which is usual. At that point it makes me think swing tackle might be open competition this year in camp, in fact it seems likely to me.

Wow ...you know me so well my friend you knew exactly what triggered me. It's great to have folks like Merlin in here that have a great feel for the combative pocket! It's obvious I am very high on Noteboom think I let that cat out of the bag. I agree strongly with what @Riverumbbq above post on what might be in future for Noteboom @ RT.

I believe there are valid reasons for a bright future on this short OL'er Tremayne Anchrum & for those here in the SE part of the country we watched him play real smart solid ball for 2 seasons on a great team playing in the biggest games in college. Then Snead can brag all over how he snatched TA for pocket change worth of value very late 7th rd pick! That will make him smile for a long time.

First is his maturity which is off the grading charts, then he is smart enough to go & play any of the five OL posts without any dropoff in performance. He is also very strong of a long-arm OL'er with a fire-hydrant body. His weaknesses are on the fine technical side of NFL line play. I am sure Snead sees him as a game-day top reserve in this upcoming season! I think you are right we will see him playing all over in TC & preseason this upcoming season.

 

[Malibu]

One word NO

 

[So Ram]

Yep, an OT prospect with those extra-long arms being 34 1/2 inches & that sorry short wing span of only 83 1/2 inches who can only put up 27 reps on the bench @ the combine is pathetically in a weakened state for an OT in today's NFL....

Then there's this weak brain issue where Noteboom was named to the Big 12 All-Academic team all four seasons & was a graduate student during his senior season in the fall. Noteboom, who has played both tackle spots in college is not versatile enough either. Then there those impressive fast times in the 40 & 10 yard split ....sure not needed playing OT.It was just sickening the way Noteboom when interviewed the last 3 seasons speaks about how he has relished his role as an apprentice behind AW. What a Suck Up!


Even when the Rams draft an LT this draft the chance that Noteboom will not make the roster IMO is ZERO!

Better chances are that Ram OT's who are on the roster now that will not be on the roster in September are likely Havenstein & Evans after being utilized involving Snead trades.

LOL - now The Rams are going to get rid of a 23 year old player who just started at LG in the playoffs.Yeah okay
I get your point big time.I just lol out loud at Ram Fans that don’t understand the Jared Goff trade.You look at Todd Gurley & Cam Akers as well. Austin Blythe the undersized lineman he is & think of how good The Rams running game & offense has been.
Just saying I’m excited to see this Rams offense play & still not knowing who the center might be adds to the confusion. I like it though that there is so much doubt that come the 2021 draft NFL teams might think The Rams are going to draft offensive lineman.

 

[So Ram]

Wow ...you know me so well my friend you knew exactly what triggered me. It's great to have folks like Merlin in here that have a great feel for the combative pocket! It's obvious I am very high on Noteboom think I let that cat out of the bag. I agree strongly with what @Riverumbbq above post on what might be in future for Noteboom @ RT.

I believe there are valid reasons for a bright future on this short OL'er Tremayne Anchrum & for those here in the SE part of the country we watched him play real smart solid ball for 2 seasons on a great team playing in the biggest games in college. Then Snead can brag all over how he snatched TA for pocket change worth of value very late 7th rd pick! That will make him smile for a long time.

First is his maturity which is off the grading charts, then he is smart enough to go & play any of the five OL posts without any dropoff in performance. He is also very strong of a long-arm OL'er with a fire-hydrant body. His weaknesses are on the fine technical side of NFL line play. I am sure Snead sees him as a game-day top reserve in this upcoming season! I think you are right we will see him playing all over in TC & preseason this upcoming season.

I”ll keep thinking Noteboom will be on the Left Side.I just think Bobby Evans deserved the confidence McKromer trusted in him.I know training camp & the Preseason will be so much different than the past.Ram Offensive Lineman are going to have to compete to earn there spot.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

I'm saying that if Noteboom gets to that point and his run blocking is still suspect.

I’ve seen a few ppl use the word elite in association with Noteboom. I have no idea what they are talking about.

But doing the if he gets there thing is a lot of projection with where he currently is. Blocking on the move has never been his thing.

 

[So Ram]

I think Whitworth was a once-in-a-lifetime thing when it comes to good left tackles hitting the market.

Exactly— It’s not like The Rams haven’t spent some bad $$$’s either. Just shows me that there are some many Monday Night OT’s out there.

I just impressed with Noteboom as a Ram player.I know he hasn’t always been the best.It’s about his progression with this franchise.Havenstien has gone his own path.The Rams are such a young team & anyone who is thinking about getting younger.
Then again a Veteran player might
be the only way to go if these players don’t step up.Noteboom in my book is going to smash some DB’s in 2021.

 

[Rams43]

I am in the camp that believes that both Boom and Anchrum probably have a promising NFL future.

Boom might be a quality 10 year starter at either left or right Tackle.

Anchrum seems to be one of those rare players that can perhaps play well at any of the 5 OL positions. How valuable is THAT?

 

[Ram_Rally]

I’ve seen a few ppl use the word elite in association with Noteboom. I have no idea what they are talking about.

But doing the if he gets there thing is a lot of projection with where he currently is. Blocking on the move has never been his thing.

I'm going off the pff grades in the tweet which I get can be flawed but they gave him high marks

 

[Reddog99]

I like Boom but I don't think he's the long term answer for this OL so I'm gonna have to say no. I'd be ok with him as a cheap backup though.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

I'm going off the pff grades in the tweet which I get can be flawed but they gave him high marks

They gave Blythe good grades too.
I’m sorry man, I just don’t see it in him. I think he’s backup level. A good OLT has to run block too and he doesn’t do that well, after 3-4 years of college and 3 years with the Rams. I get the idea of improving over time but I’d think he’d have showed some improvement in all of that time.

 

[CoachAllred]

I was just thinking about how we may draft given how our team is pretty talented top to bottom, but we have several linemen due for new contracts. Noteboom is one of them. He'll be a free agent after this season and Whitworth is getting old. Scratch that; he's old now lol. But I remember Noteboom filling in well when Whitworth was hurt.


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I thought that drafting the left tackle of the future was important but maybe Noteboom gets a cheap extension to be the successor. What say you?

I think he is definitely a keeper. When he got a chance to play, he played well.
And because he hasn't played that much, we may be able to get a good deal on an extension.
We always need to bring in new olineman, but the way Notebloom has played, I don't think we have to draft a OT
in the early rounds.