Do you think Noteboom is still the left tackle of the future?

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Noteboom is good to have on the bench as someone who can come in and not be a huge drop off for the short term. As a starting left tackle in the National Football League? ....I’ll pass
 

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I think we would be crazy NOT to draft another LT for the upcoming season, just to compete for the future starter/back-up roles.
Where do they fit though? Between Noteboom, brewer, Whitworth, havenstein, and Evans, who goes?
 

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Question is can we live w/ Noteboom's piss poor run blocking? Come playoff time the good teams will take avg of us and shift over on run downs. Just my two cents
Very possible. Although if he becomes an elite pass blocker I doubt most teams would replace that, especially at the left tackle position.
 

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I hope not. I'd prefer a more complete left tackle. Joe did good in pass blocking but he still is a lousy run blocker. It would suck to go back to only being able to run to one side. The offense looked so much better with Whitworth playing. I'd like to see the Rams shoot for a guy like him over settling on a one dimensional tackle

How much would they have to pay Noteboom? If he hits free agency then its a good chance the Rams won't want to outbid for his services a la Blythe, unless he doesn't get good offers. I'm hoping Brewer comes in this summer showing that he could take over at OLT if needed.
yeah his run blocking definitely needs to improve but I just don't think you give up on a tackle prospect who is elite at past blocking, especially in a passing league. I need to keep an eye out for Brewer this year. His name's been brought up a lot this summer including by people like Snead.
 

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Seemed like Boom was pretty average.

I'm hoping they back up the Brinks truck for a vet LT next year
I think Whitworth was a once-in-a-lifetime thing when it comes to good left tackles hitting the market.
 

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I've been huge in his corner since drafted like most Rams players. But my issue with him is the old saying "the best ability is availability" He's injured too much I'm all in for a replacement this year or the next.
So maybe that'll be the importance of brewer. Maybe you bring them both in the back next year and let them fight it out for the left tackle spot
 

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I'd rather prep him to play RT and draft/sign a better LT. But he's not better than Hav right now and Hav is just average himself. So that should say everything you need to know. With the Goff and Gurley dead $ coming off the books next year, and the salary cap going back up in 2022...I bet next offseason we spend big on a LT. Because this is likely Whits last year.
aren't right tackles usually the physical ones? I don't know how boom would fit there. Also, I just have to say this, havenstein is a good right tackle. well above average. I just always feel the need to say that when I see it because most stats have him as being good despite his problems with speed brush. But he gets underappreciated.
 

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They can't operate under the assumption that he is, so I'd imagine we draft a tackle at some point.

In fact, with the Rams penchant for drafting to replace FAs next year, it's worth looking at key players who are FAs next year:

D Williams
SJD
Corbett
Kiser

Obo
Noteboom
Young
Allen
Lawler
Mundt

There's really no replacing Williams - we drafted Long with a day 2 pick and it hasn't worked out - that's not to say we won't draft a CB, but I wouldn't prioritize it. I'd focus on extending him now.

Obo, Young, Allen, Lawler and Mundt are non factors and easy to replace, maybe with guys already on the roster or UDFAs.

That leaves SJD, Kiser, Corbett and Noteboom. We're going to draft at least two offensive linemen this year, so that's covered. SJD is the type of player we don't re-sign, and Gaines would be able to take over - depth may be needed now though.

This should bump ILB up the list of needs too. So my priorities would now be:

OL
ILB
OL
WR
DL
WR

Then free agents to compete at EDGE, TE and CB for depth
I'm not so sure that they draft two offensive linemen in this draft. They still have Edwards and Evans and it sounds like they like Brewer among many others. But you could be right.

I wouldn't mind them sit bringing back Noteboom and possibly even Corbett depending on how he plays this year. He was solid last year
 

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Noteboom is good to have on the bench as someone who can come in and not be a huge drop off for the short term. As a starting left tackle in the National Football League? ....I’ll pass
small sample size but when he was in the position to play left tackle he filled in pretty adequately. I feel like that's enough to at least see what he's got as a starter. Maybe a camp battle I guess.
 

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IMO, Noteboom is the future LT for the present, however, I concur with others like @OldSchool for example of proving some durability. Also Boom is better in pass protection then run blocking, you viewed a huge improvement in that area when Whit came back so IMO, I think it would be prudent to draft a Tackle this year, but the list is getting longer then the number of draft picks the Rams have.
 
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Where do they fit though? Between Noteboom, brewer, Whitworth, havenstein, and Evans, who goes?

Havenstein is trade bait for me. The Rams need to improve on draft opportunities imo, Hav is the remaining pawn.
Right now, i'm lacking confidence in Evans, but he still has time to show better. jmo.
 
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I think he's fine. It's not like the QB was getting hit from the blindside constantly. In fact I didn't notice much of a difference when he was playing.

Most teams don't have a so called elite LT. I think that was romanticized since the mid 2000s and hasn't let up since. If coach and GM see an upgrade, they'll do it but I'm not sweating it and I don't think its some urgent matter to do so.
 

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yeah his run blocking definitely needs to improve but I just don't think you give up on a tackle prospect who is elite at past blocking, especially in a passing league. I need to keep an eye out for Brewer this year. His name's been brought up a lot this summer including by people like Snead.


Elite?
 

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Very possible. Although if he becomes an elite pass blocker I doubt most teams would replace that, especially at the left tackle position.

yes that is the million dollar question w/ Noteboom. Very good pass pro paired w/ really shitty run blocking so far in his career
 

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I believe Ram fans have been ruined & solidly spoiled since 2017 when the Rams signed future HOF Andrew Whitworth. I still have horrid nightmares recalling the seasons after Orlando Pace's shoulders gave out & all the Dozens & dozens of flaccid Ram starting LT's that pathetically tried to replace him. Disasters after disaster!

Even now the Rams are running on an old tire called Whitworth & it appears that they will ride on him until they can see the air inside that tire. AW is already the oldest starting LT in the NFL & he was the last two seasons. He is moving into Jackie Slater territory now.

What evidence do we have that this Ram organization has produced to indicate that they have any concerns about finding a starting LT to replace AW since Noteboom was drafted in 2018?

They drafted RT David Edwards & they started him @ both OG posts for two seasons. They drafted swing OT Bobby Evans & started him @ RT & LG. They draft a very short 6-1 5/8th RT in Tremayne Anchrum & he has yet to play in the regular season. They signed RT/RG Chandler Brewer & he did have snaps @ LT in 2019.
 

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I believe Ram fans have been ruined & solidly spoiled since 2017 when the Rams signed future HOF Andrew Whitworth. I still have horrid nightmares recalling the seasons after Orlando Pace's shoulders gave out & all the Dozens & dozens of flaccid Ram starting LT's that pathetically tried to replace him. Disasters after disaster!

Even now the Rams are running on an old tire called Whitworth & it appears that they will ride on him until they can see the air inside that tire. AW is already the oldest starting LT in the NFL & he was the last two seasons. He is moving into Jackie Slater territory now.

What evidence do we have that this Ram organization has produced to indicate that they have any concerns about finding a starting LT to replace AW since Noteboom was drafted in 2018?

They drafted RT David Edwards & they started him @ both OG posts for two seasons. They drafted swing OT Bobby Evans & started him @ RT & LG. They draft a very short 6-1 5/8th RT in Tremayne Anchrum & he has yet to play in the regular season. They signed RT/RG Chandler Brewer & he did have snaps @ LT in 2019.

Brewer is still such an enigma, hopefully we get this Covid thing behind us so he isn't threatened by it for another season. Two years ago I thought he'd be right in line for a starting RG role, but when Noteboom was injured and he took snaps at LT his development started moving in another direction. He seems to play well wherever they put him and the coaches have spoken highly about his potential, so again, I hope this Covid thing doesn't delay his ability to get on the field soon. Either way, the Rams should prioritize another LT type in the upcoming draft, someone who can compete at both LT & RT positions for either a starting or back-up role, and regardless, we may be repeating the process for 2022 depending on Whitworth's & Notebooms future status with the team. jmo.
 

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I don't think so but it's not a fact at this point. I could actually see the Rams bringing in another older FA veteran stud at some point in the next few years, rather than trying to draft a blue chip LT prospect high in the draft. I think they're willing to spend big money there if necessary and if the stars align in terms of timing.