Coach Mcvay show (warning, Goff thread incoming)

[ramsince62]

I couldn't disagree more, but unfortunately until Darnold is traded he'll suffer the indignity of constant defeat. Bull shit on the Rosen, what a joke, he outplayed Rosen in college and remains head and shoulders above him. Rosen in front ot that line would already be on IR. I think you may rue your comments as early as next season as there is a reasonable chance that he ends up in S.F. next year...just wait and see.

 

[FrantikRam]

Why are you making an argument that isnt there? Goff played like shit and they lost. Get over it already.
He also played great against a Chicago team that has been destroying QB's this season. (Like Brady)
As for the defending him stuff? Well, of course I'll defend him, he's our QB and the best we've had since Warner, and the best team we've had since the GSOT. Unlike the GSOT, this team is going on 4th straight winning season and should continue for years to come

Your argument is very flawed - every member of the Rams by your definition should be blindly defended by fans.

Goff being the best we've had since Warner is a pretty low bar and I want better. I also want better for the amount of money he's making.

And telling me to get over it is funny too - all this is funny actually, because the only reason I even came into this discussion is because its mind boggling to me that people are blaming McVay - so - you're telling them to get over it too, right? After all, McVay is the best coach we've had.....ever I think. He's on pace to be 4/4 for having winning seasons and is one of four coaches to take us to a Super Bowl - and while Vermeil won one, he also had some bad years.

So you're defending McVay too, right?


EDIT: to be clear, when I say I want better, I want Goff to be better, and I think he can be

 

[payote75]

Dude are joking? Lol enunwa always hurt and missed seasons....bell wasn't used ....Robby Anderson injured also and suspended...and Thomas was 100 and was so ineffective he was cut by the patriots or traded and Brady was desparate for receivers!

Also it's not like they all played at the same time either.

Goff had Gurley, Britt, Austin, Cooper, Higbie and a decent defense.

Again this isn't about taking Goffs job away it's just about planning ahead things like this don't happen often. Where a "possible" franchise quarterback becomes available. If you believe in mcvay saving Goff there is absolutely no reason to think he can't save Darnold.

 

[dieterbrock]

Your argument is very flawed

I'm not making an argument, you are.
Your idea that we are engaged in an argument is what is flawed. You said that Brady would have won the Dolphins game, I didnt disagree. Heck, Jared Goff wins that game if they play it again. In any event, by the same token I merely responded that Goff would have won the Bears game that Mr Doesnt Know what Down it is lost.
Its the same philosophy

 

[dieterbrock]

If you believe in mcvay saving Goff there is absolutely no reason to think he can't save Darnold.

Well sure there is. McVay has Goff and doesnt need to "save" Darnold.

Robby Anderson injured also and suspended.

Huh? Anderson was a stud for the Jets and they were idiots to let him go. He's having a great year for Carolina. I dont remember a suspension or missing games due to injury. Darnold has missed a bunch of game due to injury/illness
Darnold plays for a crap org, but he has had some talent to work with. Breshard Perriman was a nice player for Tampa, doing squat now. Crowder is a nice player, Bilal Powell and Leveon Bell, good running backs. Problem with Sam is that is not accurate, and panics in the pocket

 

[Ramlock]

Well sure there is. McVay has Goff and doesnt need to "save" Darnold.

Huh? Anderson was a stud for the Jets and they were idiots to let him go. He's having a great year for Carolina. I dont remember a suspension or missing games due to injury. Darnold has missed a bunch of game due to injury/illness
Darnold plays for a crap org, but he has had some talent to work with. Breshard Perriman was a nice player for Tampa, doing squat now. Crowder is a nice player, Bilal Powell and Leveon Bell, good running backs. Problem with Sam is that is not accurate, and panics in the pocket

You know, months can pass and I wouldn’t think of Sam Darnold as a Ram

What in the actual fuck? I got more to worry about than Darnold.

Good post dieter

 

[payote75]

I'm not making an argument, you are.
Your idea that we are engaged in an argument is what is flawed. You said that Brady would have won the Dolphins game, I didnt disagree. Heck, Jared Goff wins that game if they play it again. In any event, by the same token I merely responded that Goff would have won the Bears game that Mr Doesnt Know what Down it is lost.
Its the same philosophy

Well nothing wrong with saving a possible franchise quarterback and creating competition and depth in one of if not most important positions on a football team.

As far as Anderson I think we may have a different outlook on what a stud receiver is. He never had more than 63 receptions or 950 yards not one 1000 yard season. He is have a great season this year but on Carolina and yes the jets were foolish to let him go because I'm that offense he is Jerry rice. As far as missing time your right he didn't miss a much time as I thought 2 games in the years I was referencing.

All that said can't try and tell me Darnold has had amazing weapons and name people that didn't ay together or were oft injured and hardly played like enunwa. That's referring to the other dude not you lol.

My only point is there is a lot invested here I'm ok with bring in someone like Darnold. Situation like that don't happen often and it certainly would be ashamed to watch him next year on the whiners which is what I think will happen in all honesty.

 

[payote75]

I actually like Ben Maller. O think he is a pisser and has some good views. Let me know what you guys think. I hope it works I'm not great at this stuff lol


View: https://twitter.com/benmaller/status/1324552083194974213?s=09

 

[dolphinlover123]

I actually like Ben Maller. O think he is a pisser and has some good views. Let me know what you guys think. I hope it works I'm not great at this stuff lol


View: https://twitter.com/benmaller/status/1324552083194974213?s=09

IMO. He managed to say nothing of significance. Basically just said “I got the call right.” Sean McVay is the best and Goff sucks. Okay. Havent heard that one before.

 

[kurtfaulk]

IMO. He managed to say nothing of significance. Basically just said “I got the call right.” Sean McVay is the best and Goff sucks. Okay. Havent heard that one before.

I'm surprised you listened to it. Who was going to listen to that after reading the teaser?

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[FrantikRam]

I'm not making an argument, you are.
Your idea that we are engaged in an argument is what is flawed. You said that Brady would have won the Dolphins game, I didnt disagree. Heck, Jared Goff wins that game if they play it again. In any event, by the same token I merely responded that Goff would have won the Bears game that Mr Doesnt Know what Down it is lost.
Its the same philosophy

Okay that's fine - so have you been defending McVay the way you're defending Goff?

 

[dieterbrock]

Okay that's fine - so have you been defending McVay the way you're defending Goff?

What does McVay have to do with Tom Brady vs Chicago? And how is saying Goff played well vs Chicago a defense of him? This is puzzling.

 

[dieterbrock]

As far as Anderson I think we may have a different outlook on what a stud receiver is. He never had more than 63 receptions or 950 yards not one 1000 yard season.

Is Robert Woods a stud receiver?

 

[FrantikRam]

What does McVay have to do with Tom Brady vs Chicago? And how is saying Goff played well vs Chicago a defense of him? This is puzzling.

Lol c'mon man. Stop it.

Just a few posts ago you said "of course I'm defending Goff" - and that is a tendency you have, which is fine - but it begs the question:

We have multiple threads here talking about the last game, some people are putting it on Goff, some people are putting it on McVay.

You said you were defending Goff because he's our QB and the best we've had since Warner.

McVay is our coach and the best one we've had, arguably ever, but certainly since Vermeil.

But I don't see you defending McVay when people are calling him out in the same manner that I've called Goff out. Why is that? I'm curious. You've clearly seen the posts because you've replied a lot in this thread.

 

[dieterbrock]

Lol c'mon man. Stop it.

Just a few posts ago you said "of course I'm defending Goff" - and that is a tendency you have, which is fine - but it begs the question:

We have multiple threads here talking about the last game, some people are putting it on Goff, some people are putting it on McVay.

You said you were defending Goff because he's our QB and the best we've had since Warner.

McVay is our coach and the best one we've had, arguably ever, but certainly since Vermeil.

But I don't see you defending McVay when people are calling him out in the same manner that I've called Goff out. Why is that? I'm curious. You've clearly seen the posts because you've replied a lot in this thread.

Again, this is an argument that you are creating. But since we're clearly referencing the big picture and not the Brady/Goff stuff , maybe this will clear it up. Offense wise, Goff played like shit in that game, the play calling was suspect & the execution was poor. Total train wreck. Goff deserves his share of the blame without a doubt. What grinds my gears is when playing poorly isnt enough, that the majority of the blame gets dumped on him. Ludicrous comments like when he's crushed by a blind side hit, that he should have known, or screen shots of "open" receivers that are snap shots and dont tell the whole picture. I saw it said in the GDT and in other places, that you can tell in the first 2 series how the offense is going to fair, and man truer words havent been spoken.
As for McVay? Well, while Goff is the best QB I've seen since Warner, McVay is the best coach in my lifetime. Hands down.
There isnt a coach I'd rather have. For all the talk about the offense, our HC is who let Wade walk and hand picked Staley to run the defense.

 

[Tano]

Again, this is an argument that you are creating. But since we're clearly referencing the big picture and not the Brady/Goff stuff , maybe this will clear it up. Offense wise, Goff played like shit in that game, the play calling was suspect & the execution was poor. Total train wreck. Goff deserves his share of the blame without a doubt. What grinds my gears is when playing poorly isnt enough, that the majority of the blame gets dumped on him. Ludicrous comments like when he's crushed by a blind side hit, that he should have known, or screen shots of "open" receivers that are snap shots and dont tell the whole picture. I saw it said in the GDT and in other places, that you can tell in the first 2 series how the offense is going to fair, and man truer words havent been spoken.
As for McVay? Well, while Goff is the best QB I've seen since Warner, McVay is the best coach in my lifetime. Hands down.
There isnt a coach I'd rather have. For all the talk about the offense, our HC is who let Wade walk and hand picked Staley to run the defense.

Let's clear this up a little bit.

Goff played like shit in the first half, played better in the third quarter (not much) and then started picking the Dolphins apart in the 4th qtr. If not for a dropped pass by Everett on third down and then a shanked (is there a word worse than shank because that was a horrible horrible horrible attempt) FG by Forbath, I believe Goff comes back and at least ties the game to send the game into OT.

The Dolphins were running the same defense in the 4th quarter as in the first half but McVay started inserting better plays to offset the Cover 0 defense and also played to Goff's strengths.

 

[dieterbrock]

Let's clear this up a little bit.

Goff played like shit in the first half, played better in the third quarter (not much) and then started picking the Dolphins apart in the 4th qtr. If not for a dropped pass by Everett on third down and then a shanked (is there a word worse than shank because that was a horrible horrible horrible attempt) FG by Forbath, I believe Goff comes back and at least ties the game to send the game into OT.

The Dolphins were running the same defense in the 4th quarter as in the first half but McVay started inserting better plays to offset the Cover 0 defense and also played to Goff's strengths.

Yeah, I dont buy the whole premise that "Flores has the Rams number". You dont rack up 31 first downs and nearly 500 yards of total offense in a game where the defense has you "figured out"
The offense was just completely out of synch from the jump, like the Buffalo game.

 

[payote75]

Is Robert Woods a stud receiver?

Robert woods is a tier 2 receiver but Robert woods in the 3 years I am referencing was not however in his last two years he has done more than Anderson has ever done. He has almost 2400 yards recieving and over 176 receptions.

Anderson is a different type of receiver but they are not both studs. Anderson at least not yet.

Also I know Goff is the one throwing him the ball but I am not bashing Goff I just want my team to have a back up plan should Goff not take that next step or regress.

Lastly in fairness Goff has had better weapons now and the 3 years I was referencing.

So dieterbrock I see you weighing in and I know neither of us hate Goff but I don't want to get off the subject. Respectfully I ask you what the original post was about:

Would you be opposed to Sam Darnold as a back up for a year under mcvay (at a cost we are all ok with if the opportunity should arise) while we wait on Goff to take a positive leap forward or would you prefer a back up plan? And if you don't like Darnold I understand but give me someone who you think would fit hopefully long term. I don't want to waste AD's career and I don't want a Fitzpatrick type. For mcvay to have true ownership of this team he may want his own quarter back. So I don't mind that and I thi.k at some point we have all said Goff looks like he in a funk or asleep or blah so maybe the USC guy will motivate him spark him.

 

[Merlin]

The Dolphins were running the same defense in the 4th quarter as in the first half but McVay started inserting better plays to offset the Cover 0 defense and also played to Goff's strengths.

I'd like hear more about these better plays. What were they and how were they different. Do tell I am legitimately curious about this.