Coach Mcvay show (warning, Goff thread incoming)

[Tano]

To me - those cover 0 blitzes would also be a perfect time to audible and direct snap to Akers as a Wildcat QB.

Run in 11 set and then take off in the direction from the blitz that is coming from.

On the fumble returned for a TD, if you look at the picture, there are 6 guys at the line of scrimmage with a blitzer coming from the right side. 5 guys are 5 yards back of the line of scrimmage with 1 covering reynolds to the left and 3 covering the recievers to the right and one standing in the middle.

All Akers would have to do is outrun the defensive end and the middle linebacker to the left side and hope Reynolds can block his man.

I think that would have worked.

Of course I am a couch football fan and what do I know.

 

[badnews]

Just think its funny when you say "nobody does well without individual coaching." Like you assume for some crazy reason that Goff doesn't get any 1 on 1 coaching. Or because he plays bad, that's somehow an indication that he's not being coached 1 on 1 enough.

We brought in a new OC to help coach him, we have a QB coach to coach him 1 on 1. You dont think McVay spends time with him 1 on 1? We have given him playmakers, improved the oline, improved the running game... given him one of the best play callers and play designers in the NFL in McVay. He has a legit top 5 defense to practice against and to help him on game day. And if you watch the game film or look at Merlin's stills, we have visual evidence of how he doesn't see open WRs, know where his hot routes are, recognize a blitz, etc.

When do we start holding the player accountable for their play? We give them all the credit when they play well, but we should pass the blame off when they dont? I just dont get many people around here. We all love our team and we all want Goff to play well. But we also need to have integrity as football fans and call it like it is.

Thats what I mean by stretching.
I was referring to the notion that we should all just assume Goff is getting good individual coaching this year and he isn't trying hard enough.

 

[Tano]

Thats what I mean by stretching.
I was referring to the notion that we should all just assume Goff is getting good individual coaching this year and he isn't trying hard enough.

But some of the play calls by McVay in the first half were just idiotic in the first place where you need a Jackson/Mahomes QB to be successful.

Goff is not that. He is a pocket passer where if you give him more than 2.5 secs he is going to blow you apart. He is not a 1 sec QB. That is his weakness. McVay should never have made Goff try to be a 1 sec QB.

McVay adjusted in the second half and Goff started picking Miami apart in the 4th qtr when he got his head straightened out.

 

[GoodBadUgly]

I haven't listened to the who show, but reading the OP and this thread, it seems like McVay wants to throw Goff under the bus while failing to acknowledge his own failings in going away from the run when it was working, then that's going to be a big problem going forward.

No. No. No.

I DID listen to the whole show, and it was VERY clear he blames himself for not ensuring it was made clear what to do in these situations. He also rightfully blames Goff specifically (by going out of his way to exonerate the OL), for not executing on the plays as called.

Example, I showed a screenshot in another thread of the fateful play that began a turnaround from a potential 14-0 lead to a 7-28 deficit in 7 minutes. Reynolds is WIDE OPEN for a walk-in TD and if Goff executes as the play demands, we are up 14-0 and off and running. He didn't.

The wisdom of CALLING THAT PLAY, however, is on McVay (who again, took ownership and said he should have not put his team in that position). He also said his own defense has been so good, he needs to walk that line of throttling back high-risk offense and letting his defense dictate the game sometimes. Again, another area he specifically points out HE NEEDS TO IMPROVE.

So, he is known for coach speak, but I thought this was a refreshing mix of spreading out the ownership of the failure, without throwing anyone under the bus.

 

[dieterbrock]

You understand that if we had simply ran the ball on those plays where Goff had a turnovers they do not happen. That is how Miami got all the points. They were never going to score a lot on us with a rookie QB.
McVay tends to overthink things. I do the same at work.
Hey, the Rams might not had scored 20 points if they ran a LOT more, but they would have won the game. It would have been a beautiful, ugly win.
And no, it did not matter if Hendo was hurt. Run the other guys in the first half and its a W.

Yes, on any bad play we can easily say, do something different and the bad result doesnt happen. Goff could have punted the ball and Tampa doesnt make those plays, so should Goff punt the ball?
They certainly didnt run those plays with the intention of turning the ball over

 

[DrRage46]

The thing that glares at me about goff is his body language.The guy seems to laid back alllll the time.Alot of qbs I see are fired up during GameDay and show emotion.Goff always has that care free look and relaxation.,idk just my thoughts about him.

 

[Merlin]

McVay quote on Goff (looks like a fair and accurate take which is no surprise):

“I think in a lot of instances, he's done some really good stuff. But, some of the tougher plays that we had yesterday were really tough and those are things that we've got to improve on. I think he'll be the first to tell you that he has to be better and he will be. (It’s) just about consistently stacking good decisions, getting guys involved, being able to navigate and negotiate through some difficult situations that inevitably come up when you play that position. That's the most difficult in the world, in my opinion, in sports and everything that that entails. So overall, there's been some good and there's been some things that I expect him to be better with. I think that's a reflection of overall the whole operation offensively. I do expect some of those situations and circumstances, I trust that we'll see growth. I know that his first inkling and response is to look inward and if you have that approach, then I think we can improve moving forward.”

McVay quote on run/pass balance (excellent summation I think):

“In a lot of instances, based on the play that we have where we'll call a run a lot of times and then the other play that we have activated based on certain looks could go to a pass. So, you might have the intent to call a run, but in some instances, it ends up being a pass based on the defensive structure. That's pretty consistent with how we operate week in and week out. It just really depends what the defensive looks which sometimes elicit a certain response from us. So, we do talk about that balance. I think ultimately what it's about is the execution and moving the football and scoring points, we have to do more of that. As of late, I think we've done enough, with the exception of yesterday, to be in some good positions. Really overall, I want to see us score more points, be more efficient snap in and snap out. I’m not as concerned about the run-pass balance as I am of the overall offensive efficiency and scoring points. Now with that being said, what I would say, yesterday definitely don't want to leave us susceptible to making some of those mistakes. I think I share in that responsibility, but there's also a level of execution that I think is required that we have to demand of our guys, regardless of the situation. So it goes hand in hand, but that's kind of where I would say we're at with that right now.”

 

[kurtfaulk]

Yes, because us females are distracting an NFL player so much that he completely falls apart in a game. And boys say that we're the overly-emotional type.

are you kidding me? i'm pretty sure goff's 2018 form slump coincided with him hooking up with his current girlfriend.

he's a young guy. he's with this hot girl all the time outside of work. is he gonna put extra work at home to know the offense inside out or is he gonna spend time with this girl he's gaga about?

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[OregonRamsFan]

And again not bashing but I think that's where Goff might lack is in the intelligence part of the game.

What!!? That’s as crazy as thinking the sun rises in the west.

Well...Uh...maybe you have a point.

 

[Memento]

are you kidding me? i'm pretty sure goff's 2018 form slump coincided with him hooking up with his current girlfriend.

he's a young guy. he's with this hot girl all the time outside of work. is he gonna put extra work at home to know the offense inside out or is he gonna spend time with this girl he's gaga about?

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Uh, the hell? Women are not the reason why football players suck at their job. If they were, Brady would've been cut when he married Gisele. And what do you say to those elite games Goff put up against teams before Miami?

I'm sorry, but that's an incredibly silly take worthy of an eyeroll. So, here goes:

 

[SteezyEndo]

Lack of preparations for games. So is he just going through the motions?

 

[kurtfaulk]

Uh, the hell? Women are not the reason why football players suck at their job. If they were, Brady would've been cut when he married Gisele. And what do you say to those elite games Goff put up against teams before Miami?

I'm sorry, but that's an incredibly silly take worthy of an eyeroll. So, here goes:

Let's agree to disagree because you have no idea how young men are led astray by their dick.

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[Tano]

Uh, the hell? Women are not the reason why football players suck at their job. If they were, Brady would've been cut when he married Gisele. And what do you say to those elite games Goff put up against teams before Miami?

I'm sorry, but that's an incredibly silly take worthy of an eyeroll. So, here goes:

I think Brady is gay and married Giselle to make it look like he isn't gay.

I am just kidding on this. Don't throw me under the bus.

 

[Merlin]

are you kidding me? i'm pretty sure goff's 2018 form slump coincided with him hooking up with his current girlfriend.

he's a young guy. he's with this hot girl all the time outside of work. is he gonna put extra work at home to know the offense inside out or is he gonna spend time with this girl he's gaga about?

Yeah I get where you were going with that. Happened with Aaron Rogers, at least with the fan base that was some funny shit it even got played up in the media with fans talkin shit about her.

I don't think that's the issue though, I think Goff just got shanghai'd by a scheme that put him in bad positions and he pressed and overlooked some shit. What matters is how he bounces back.

Goff may go on a tear after the bye and put all this in the rear view. That sure would be nice wouldn't it.

 

[Allen2McVay]

are you kidding me? i'm pretty sure goff's 2018 form slump coincided with him hooking up with his current girlfriend.

he's a young guy. he's with this hot girl all the time outside of work.

OK, OK ... I will take the bullet; and take Goff’s girlfriend off his hands.

But you guys all owe me

 

[wolfdogg]

For someone like mcvay it must be super frustrating to see your qb of nearly 4 years lack urgency and preparation.

Ive always said jared looks too laid back so this urgency issue must be hard for mcvay at this point. Im suprised at the preperation comment. Thats troubling but should be fixable.

 

[Rams77]

I don't believe it's so much Goff "bashing" as it is apparently coach and us as fans need to see progression. He has improved but seems to be stuck or even regresses at times. I am not bashing him. I have actually had faith in him and questioned mcvays play calling in the red zone why bubble screens... why these dumb short plays....why no attempts to the end zone....or why run it etc. So I have put my trust in Goff but I am starting to see a different perspective one where the trust doesn't exist because if mcvay let's Goff loose he scared of dumb turnovers or incorrect reading of defenses. It's like mcvay still needs to baby him and get the offense down to the 5 before mixing it up.

Listen I still have faith things could be corrected for him to reach that ceiling but I would do whatever it takes to acquire Sam Darnold. I mean I'd sell a kidney lol. He needs to be pushed and Darnold will have no grounds to command a huge contract and he could sit a year behind Goff next year if necessary he is still that young. Darnold could learn retrain under mcvay and I'm telling you the dude has what it takes. Mcvay is basically echoing the same sentiments we all do every week in joke fashion or serious fashion. It's good that Goff is even keel but there are times where you need fire... emotion... and true leadership. He cannot be coddled at this stage anymore he has weapons more than most. Had Darnold been drafted to the rams his career would have been a lot different.

I don't know what it will take but the rams must get Darnold. Keep him away from the whiners but he will be a true franchise qb he has the skills and the intelligence. And again not bashing but I think that's where Goff might lack is in the intelligence part of the game.

I like your energy but Darnold is not the answer Lmao. He’s proven absolutely nothing in 3 seasons in the NFL. I would look to a vet in the offseason to help-maybe someone like Fitzpatrick if the price is right. He needs someone to lean on in that QB room thats been there before and had some success-not Wolford.

 

[kurtfaulk]

I think Brady is gay and married Giselle to make it look like he isn't gay.

I am just kidding on this. Don't throw me under the bus.

headline today

Tom Brady confirms Antonio Brown is living with him

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[Tano]

I like your energy but Darnold is not the answer Lmao. He’s proven absolutely nothing in 3 seasons in the NFL. I would look to a vet in the offseason to help-maybe someone like Fitzpatrick if the price is right. He needs someone to lean on in that QB room thats been there before and had some success-not Wolford.

Darnold was awesome in college and carried USC by himself with the crappiest coach. I really hate that coach.

However, the pros is different. Darnold probably felt he could carry the Jets by himself and that just does not happen with the crappiest coach and team in the pros.

And his head is so messed up now, I don't think it will ever get right.

 

[payote75]

I like your energy but Darnold is not the answer Lmao. He’s proven absolutely nothing in 3 seasons in the NFL. I would look to a vet in the offseason to help-maybe someone like Fitzpatrick if the price is right. He needs someone to lean on in that QB room thats been there before and had some success-not Wolford.

Na man we are one of the younger teams in football if Goff regresses, I am not riding fitzmagic. That's ludicrous. I am not wasting the rest of AD's career searching for a QB...Think about all the money invested in this team including a new stadium and if Goff turned back into a pumpkin I would not put this this team on the shoulders of a retread streaky player who has won nothing. I'm not looking for a prototypical back up. I'm looking for someone like Darnold who was drafter 3rd overall for a reason. Ive watched him play since he was drafted he has some real good ability and again Goff on the jets right now would be worse than Darnold. I say that because Goff while semi athletic would never buy enough time Darnold a better athlete.

It is beyond unfair to say that Darnold has done nothing. Look at their roster it's a downright atrocity. Again I will say the jets offense is twice as bad as the Jeff fisher days for us. If Goff would have stayed under Fischer he would of been a tremendous bust. Put Goff on the jets even now and he would be awful.

Lastly Sam Darnold is like still 23 years old even backing up Goff for one season to get him right under mcvay and if Goff shits the bed the kid is ready to go. I am not willing to go into this unprepared. Still love Goff but we need a plan B. There is nothing wrong with competition. Look what happened when the redskins had rg3 and drafted cousins. Look at Tannehill.

Hope for the best prepare for the worst man.