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https://t.co/JEVKr3Yrfj Matthew St...URL='https://theathletic.com/team/rams/']Rams officially completed their trade with the Detroit Lions for quarterback Matthew Stafford (which concurrently sent Jared Goff, another No. 1 overall pick, to Detroit along with a 2021 third-rounder, and first-round picks in 2022-23). Stafford threw on his brand-new No. 9 jersey (we’re still waiting to see what negotiation took place with backup John Wolford for the swap) and dug into the onboarding process with the Rams’ team of finance, media and front office personnel.

Friday at 10 a.m. PT, he’ll meet virtually with Los Angeles media for the first time as he re-introduces himself to the city and the fan base.

Yet even as Stafford ushers in a new era for the Rams at quarterback, many questions remain about what comes next for the offense as a whole, in both the short term and the long term.

In the short term, the Rams need to solidify their plan for the center position — a priority for them, but one on which they have focused privately as opposed to their splashy re-signing of outside linebacker Leonard Floyd earlier this week.

Instead, the front office is quietly waiting for the bottom to fall out of the center market. Last year’s starter, Austin Blythe, is currently exploring free agency.

Restructured deals for receivers Robert Woods and Cooper Kupp, cornerback Jalen Ramsey, defensive tackle Aaron Donald and left tackle Andrew Whitworth, plus a 2021-friendly structure of Floyd’s deal and the trading of veteran defensive lineman Michael Brockers were moves that helped the team officially get under the cap. But even as Rams got there, there is not much wiggle room.

The safety valve available to them, should they need it, is an automatic conversion built into the two-year contract they inherited with Stafford. If it came to that, they could open up as much as $9.5 million. But that would also mean proration of money into the future and presents its own risks on such a short deal. Sources expressed the desire to try to do a cap-relief extension with Stafford after the initial trade agreement in January in order to backload some money (this would also have to be negotiated with Stafford, who may well want to retire in Detroit by 2023, as hinted at in a beautiful “thank you — not goodbye” video published by the Lions on Wednesday night) — so again, these are safety-valve options.

If Blythe’s market drops, or if he opts into returning on another team-friendly deal, the Rams might not need it.

These seem to be the three scenarios for the Rams at center:

• Re-sign Blythe, who will be 29 when the season begins, and draft a developmental player.

• In the scenario that they can’t bring back Blythe, the Rams either will rely on backup Brian Allen, whose return from a serious leg injury is somewhat of an unknown, or sign another cheap veteran as a stopgap and still draft a developmental center. Earlier this month, general manager Les Snead indicated the team didn’t want to start a rookie at the position right away.

• A worst-case scenario is if the Rams can’t find a viable veteran, they don’t have Blythe and they are dependent on Allen, a relative unknown, and a drafted rookie — thus relying on the draft to completely fall their way and completely showing their hand. I think they need to draft a center/interior offensive lineman in all three scenarios, but only this one means they’d be broadcasting that plan to their competitors.


Along the rest of the offensive line, the Rams may find a little continuity (depending on what happens with Blythe), because they were able to restructure Whitworth’s contract and return him in 2021. The veteran left tackle expects to be fully recovered from the knee injury that sidelined him for eight games in 2020, but still, the team has to start looking toward the future at the position. This year’s tackle draft class may be a good time for that, and Snead praised reserve left tackle Joe Noteboom’s development, too. They’ll also get back Chandler Brewer, who opted out last season because of COVID-19.

Meanwhile, the Rams have made it clear that they aren’t competing heavily at receiver in free agency this year — something that has been obvious for a while. They have not been in on conversations with some of the popular names, such as former Lions receivers Marvin Jones (who just signed with the Jaguars) or Kenny Golladay (who is visiting the Giants and the Bears this week), nor were they connected to a much cheaper vertical threat in John Ross (who signed with the Giants).

That doesn’t mean they shouldn’t add someone to their receivers room, which features co-No. 1s in Woods and Kupp (each neared 1,000 yards last season) and emerging No. 2 in Van Jefferson. It’s a great draft to find pure vertical speed in the later rounds. That player would probably get somewhere between 10 and 25 percent of the target share among all of the pass-catchers (which will include tight ends Tyler Higbee and Brycen Hopkins and running backs Cam Akers, Darrell Henderson and Xavier Jones), so it doesn’t make sense to pay big money (or even medium money!) if the Rams believe that layer can be added to their offense through the draft.

Unprompted, Snead also brought up the notion of adding still more layers to the passing game via a good contested-catch receiver or tight end who can “rebound” well. To me, that points toward Hopkins — a former basketball player — whose real development is a bit of a mystery after he spent most of the season running with the reserve players, even though he was on the active roster. I wouldn’t try boxing Higbee out, either.

The only offensive position that has true clarity on the roster — aside from quarterback, thanks to Stafford’s entrance — is running back, where Akers is positioned to be the lead back after emerging in the second half of last season. The Rams lost veteran back Malcolm Brown in free agency (he signed with the Dolphins) but were able to retain blocking tight end Johnny Mundt with a one-year extension, as opposed to a restricted-free-agent tender. Mundt will help open up some holes, and I’ll be interested to see if he plays in the fullback role we saw tight end Gerald Everett, now with the Seahawks, assume with some success last season.

Akers projects as an “every-down back,” according to head coach Sean McVay, but he’ll still be complemented by Henderson and Jones in a room filled with so much potential, this might actually break the Rams’ streak of drafting running backs with early picks.

It might break a streak of not throwing to them, too. Stafford has thrown to his running backs on 22 percent of his career passes. Akers on a wheel route, anyone?
 

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"this would also have to be negotiated with Stafford, who may well want to retire in Detroit by 2023"

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No sounds like spending $ on a WR is out, which make sense. I still think DJax will sign for around a vet minimum and we will draft a rookie speed type WR 100%. But Jourdan didn't give us anything on center. Of course our options are resign Blythe or another stop-gap vet. Thats beyond obvious at this point, especially if Snead doesn't want to start a rookie at Center. Brian Allen is terrible so no way he's the plan. So what in the world is she alluding to in her tweet when she says an upcoming impact signing? It has to be another Edge.
 

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I would agree for an OL upgrade but not sure who remains available that would rate as a clear upgrade over Blythe.

Austin Reiter maybe? I wonder how much he benefited from having a mobile, super-star QB behind him.

I know PFF rated Reiter higher than Blythe but I have never entirely accepted PFF as a reliable source for evaluation.

Things haven't changed all that much over the last year concerning the Rams fan base and the OL, we were just as vehement then as we are today over Blythe, and last year had the added pressure for whether Edwards & Corbett would nail down their respective positions. I advocated moving Corbett to Center prior to us re-signing Blythe for the 2020 season, Corbett was after all traded to us mid-season 2019 with the intent he would replace the struggling Brian Allen, Corbett was on the bench learning our system when Allen instead prematurely went down to injury, forcing Blythe as the only player who fully understood the calls to make the move from RG. The Rams had suffered 3 OL injuries in fairly quick succession as Noteboom went down at LG and Havenstein at RT. Instead of moving to Center as expected once his learning curve was complete, Corbett was immediately called to duty at OG, there was little choice, and he had never taken an NFL regular season snap at the position previously. Rams OL coaching pretty much dictates cross training, so i'm hopeful that Corbett is far more familiar with the Center calls today, after having spent half of 2019 at LG and all of 2020 at RG. Without Corbett having ever taken an NFL snap at Center, it's impossible to say how he will perform, but if his initial indication is similar to his being thrown to the wolves in 2019 and his first shot ever starting at RG, then i'd rather give him his shot than waste more time and money on Blythe, and he'll be far more ready than a drafted rookie to take the reins. Even considering these comments, we still draft a Center/OG as insurance. jmo.
 

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McVay did mention Patterson a lot last year when we played them. Wouldn't be a bad special teams pick up for a close to vet minimum contract.

Watch it be TY Hilton as a deep threat or Dunlap :hush: ......



I'm sure I'll be wrong lol

Was thinking about TY as well. He's had trouble staying on the field the last several years though so wouldn't want to bank too much money into him. But he still looks the part when healthy and would be a great pairing to the skillset of Kupp/Woods.
 

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The Marvin Jones rumors were started after he was asked a question in an interview where he said he would be down to come to LA. But with Ertz NFL sources reported yesterday that the Colts, Bills, and Rams have been the ones having discussions. Jourdan is plugged in so if she said Ertz is not gonna happen, that means we expect Hopkins to take a big step this year.

But her saying we'll be excited about the position we are targeting now, it has to be WR. Yes many would get excited about upgrading Center, but all the big upgrades there are gone. WR is all that makes sense to me with the way she phrased it. Plus she was having recent discussions on twitter with fans wanting to add a deep threat WR. And what big splash WRs are still out there? JuJu is too similar to Woods and Kupp. It has to be Golloday. Our WR corp is gonna be fucking loaded! I'm calling it now lol.

I wondered that too. Golloday wasn’t offered much so far. He’s good at jump balls and contested catches and never played in an offense that schemes players open. He could shine for the Rams then get them a third round comp in 2023
 

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Things haven't changed all that much over the last year concerning the Rams fan base and the OL, we were just as vehement then as we are today over Blythe, and last year had the added pressure for whether Edwards & Corbett would nail down their respective positions. I advocated moving Corbett to Center prior to us re-signing Blythe for the 2020 season, Corbett was after all traded to us mid-season 2019 with the intent he would replace the struggling Brian Allen, Corbett was on the bench learning our system when Allen instead prematurely went down to injury, forcing Blythe as the only player who fully understood the calls to make the move from RG. The Rams had suffered 3 OL injuries in fairly quick succession as Noteboom went down at LG and Havenstein at RT. Instead of moving to Center as expected once his learning curve was complete, Corbett was immediately called to duty at OG, there was little choice, and he had never taken an NFL regular season snap at the position previously. Rams OL coaching pretty much dictates cross training, so i'm hopeful that Corbett is far more familiar with the Center calls today, after having spent half of 2019 at LG and all of 2020 at RG. Without Corbett having ever taken an NFL snap at Center, it's impossible to say how he will perform, but if his initial indication is similar to his being thrown to the wolves in 2019 and his first shot ever starting at RG, then i'd rather give him his shot than waste more time and money on Blythe, and he'll be far more ready than a drafted rookie to take the reins. Even considering these comments, we still draft a Center/OG as insurance. jmo.

If Corbett is the plan at center then why is Jourdan claiming that they still are focused on the center position.
It seems that if they were willing to move Corbett to center then that would already be the plan.

Jourdan did mention that there are centers in this draft capable of starting right away. Maybe we’ve got more of Snead’s smoke screening about drafting one early
 

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I wondered that too. Golloday wasn’t offered much so far. He’s good at jump balls and contested catches and never played in an offense that schemes players open. He could shine for the Rams then get them a third round comp in 2023

Just read where he wants 18.5. Wont be getting that from us unfortuantely
 

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https://t.co/JEVKr3Yrfj Matthew Stafford is locked in for the Rams, so what are next steps on offense? We’re still a long way from seeing touchdowns, but No. 9 has finally touched down in Los Angeles. On Thursday morning, the Rams officially completed their trade with the Detroit Lions for quarterback Matthew Stafford (which concurrently sent Jared Goff, another No. 1 overall pick, to Detroit along with a 2021 third-rounder, and first-round picks in 2022-23). Stafford threw on his brand-new No. 9 jersey (we’re still waiting to see what negotiation took place with backup [URL='https://theathletic.com/player/nfl/rams/john-wolford/']John Wolford for the swap) and dug into the onboarding process with the Rams’ team of finance, media and front office personnel.

Friday at 10 a.m. PT, he’ll meet virtually with Los Angeles media for the first time as he re-introduces himself to the city and the fan base.

Yet even as Stafford ushers in a new era for the Rams at quarterback, many questions remain about what comes next for the offense as a whole, in both the short term and the long term.

In the short term, the Rams need to solidify their plan for the center position — a priority for them, but one on which they have focused privately as opposed to their splashy re-signing of outside linebacker Leonard Floyd earlier this week.

Instead, the front office is quietly waiting for the bottom to fall out of the center market. Last year’s starter, Austin Blythe, is currently exploring free agency.

Restructured deals for receivers Robert Woods and Cooper Kupp, cornerback Jalen Ramsey, defensive tackle Aaron Donald and left tackle Andrew Whitworth, plus a 2021-friendly structure of Floyd’s deal and the trading of veteran defensive lineman Michael Brockers were moves that helped the team officially get under the cap. But even as Rams got there, there is not much wiggle room.

The safety valve available to them, should they need it, is an automatic conversion built into the two-year contract they inherited with Stafford. If it came to that, they could open up as much as $9.5 million. But that would also mean proration of money into the future and presents its own risks on such a short deal. Sources expressed the desire to try to do a cap-relief extension with Stafford after the initial trade agreement in January in order to backload some money (this would also have to be negotiated with Stafford, who may well want to retire in Detroit by 2023, as hinted at in a beautiful “thank you — not goodbye” video published by the Lions on Wednesday night) — so again, these are safety-valve options.

If Blythe’s market drops, or if he opts into returning on another team-friendly deal, the Rams might not need it.

These seem to be the three scenarios for the Rams at center:

• Re-sign Blythe, who will be 29 when the season begins, and draft a developmental player.

• In the scenario that they can’t bring back Blythe, the Rams either will rely on backup Brian Allen, whose return from a serious leg injury is somewhat of an unknown, or sign another cheap veteran as a stopgap and still draft a developmental center. Earlier this month, general manager Les Snead indicated the team didn’t want to start a rookie at the position right away.

• A worst-case scenario is if the Rams can’t find a viable veteran, they don’t have Blythe and they are dependent on Allen, a relative unknown, and a drafted rookie — thus relying on the draft to completely fall their way and completely showing their hand. I think they need to draft a center/interior offensive lineman in all three scenarios, but only this one means they’d be broadcasting that plan to their competitors.


Along the rest of the offensive line, the Rams may find a little continuity (depending on what happens with Blythe), because they were able to restructure Whitworth’s contract and return him in 2021. The veteran left tackle expects to be fully recovered from the knee injury that sidelined him for eight games in 2020, but still, the team has to start looking toward the future at the position. This year’s tackle draft class may be a good time for that, and Snead praised reserve left tackle Joe Noteboom’s development, too. They’ll also get back Chandler Brewer, who opted out last season because of COVID-19.

Meanwhile, the Rams have made it clear that they aren’t competing heavily at receiver in free agency this year — something that has been obvious for a while. They have not been in on conversations with some of the popular names, such as former Lions receivers Marvin Jones (who just signed with the Jaguars) or Kenny Golladay (who is visiting the Giants and the Bears this week), nor were they connected to a much cheaper vertical threat in John Ross (who signed with the Giants).

That doesn’t mean they shouldn’t add someone to their receivers room, which features co-No. 1s in Woods and Kupp (each neared 1,000 yards last season) and emerging No. 2 in Van Jefferson. It’s a great draft to find pure vertical speed in the later rounds. That player would probably get somewhere between 10 and 25 percent of the target share among all of the pass-catchers (which will include tight ends Tyler Higbee and Brycen Hopkins and running backs Cam Akers, Darrell Henderson and Xavier Jones), so it doesn’t make sense to pay big money (or even medium money!) if the Rams believe that layer can be added to their offense through the draft.

Unprompted, Snead also brought up the notion of adding still more layers to the passing game via a good contested-catch receiver or tight end who can “rebound” well. To me, that points toward Hopkins — a former basketball player — whose real development is a bit of a mystery after he spent most of the season running with the reserve players, even though he was on the active roster. I wouldn’t try boxing Higbee out, either.

The only offensive position that has true clarity on the roster — aside from quarterback, thanks to Stafford’s entrance — is running back, where Akers is positioned to be the lead back after emerging in the second half of last season. The Rams lost veteran back Malcolm Brown in free agency (he signed with the Dolphins) but were able to retain blocking tight end Johnny Mundt with a one-year extension, as opposed to a restricted-free-agent tender. Mundt will help open up some holes, and I’ll be interested to see if he plays in the fullback role we saw tight end Gerald Everett, now with the Seahawks, assume with some success last season.

Akers projects as an “every-down back,” according to head coach Sean McVay, but he’ll still be complemented by Henderson and Jones in a room filled with so much potential, this might actually break the Rams’ streak of drafting running backs with early picks.

It might break a streak of not throwing to them, too. Stafford has thrown to his running backs on 22 percent of his career passes. Akers on a wheel route, anyone?
Thanks for sharing! There plan at C scares me. I'd rather have Blythe 10/10 times over Brian Allen.
 

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Jourdan did mention that there are centers in this draft capable of starting right away. Maybe we’ve got more of Snead’s smoke screening about drafting one early

That’s the Snead tea leaves I am feeling - they want a certain OC (or a couple guys in mind) in the draft and are trying their best to keep it on the down low.
 

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That’s the Snead tea leaves I am feeling - they want a certain OC (or a couple guys in mind) and are trying their best to keep it on the down low.
I sure hope it's Quinn Meinerz or whatever.
 

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Thanks for sharing! There plan at C scares me. I'd rather have Blythe 10/10 times over Brian Allen.

Same. Why do ppl put Allen over Shelton? If push came to shove I think they’d go with Shelton.

Either way they apparently aren’t content with the center position. They never gave a long term commitment to Blythe and if the sign him again it really sounds like they plan to draft a Center which means Blythe could only be on a one year deal again.

None of that is a great endorsement for Austin
 

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Same. Why do ppl put Allen over Shelton? If push came to shove I think they’d go with Shelton.

Either way they apparently aren’t content with the center position. They never gave a long term commitment to Blythe and if the sign him again it really sounds like they plan to draft a Center which means Blythe could only be on a one year deal again.

None of that is a great endorsement for Austin
Brian Allen IIRC started at C before Blythe moved back, and it was a dumpster fire.

I could see Corbett moving to C to get Evans or Notebloom in the lineup.
 

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I sure hope it's Quinn Meinerz or whatever.

I mentioned this before but here it is again. The Rams OC met with him Meinerz twice already. Would they be so transparent or could it be a smokescreen?

I’ve always understood it to be that teams try to hide their intentions in the draft. Snead even mentioned it in his last press conference. But then I recall reading that when the Seahawks drafted Russell Wilson that every team in the league knew they were going to be picking him. That seems odd. I guess no other team felt he’d be any good.:oops:
 

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Things haven't changed all that much over the last year concerning the Rams fan base and the OL, we were just as vehement then as we are today over Blythe, and last year had the added pressure for whether Edwards & Corbett would nail down their respective positions. I advocated moving Corbett to Center prior to us re-signing Blythe for the 2020 season, Corbett was after all traded to us mid-season 2019 with the intent he would replace the struggling Brian Allen, Corbett was on the bench learning our system when Allen instead prematurely went down to injury, forcing Blythe as the only player who fully understood the calls to make the move from RG. The Rams had suffered 3 OL injuries in fairly quick succession as Noteboom went down at LG and Havenstein at RT. Instead of moving to Center as expected once his learning curve was complete, Corbett was immediately called to duty at OG, there was little choice, and he had never taken an NFL regular season snap at the position previously. Rams OL coaching pretty much dictates cross training, so i'm hopeful that Corbett is far more familiar with the Center calls today, after having spent half of 2019 at LG and all of 2020 at RG. Without Corbett having ever taken an NFL snap at Center, it's impossible to say how he will perform, but if his initial indication is similar to his being thrown to the wolves in 2019 and his first shot ever starting at RG, then i'd rather give him his shot than waste more time and money on Blythe, and he'll be far more ready than a drafted rookie to take the reins. Even considering these comments, we still draft a Center/OG as insurance. jmo.
It would be nice if they'd come out and discuss Corbs at Center. Right now I feel like that plus a midrounder spent on the position is a good approach given what we're looking at.

If they do bring in a Center from FA just pay them appropriately to what they do. With Reiter for example if you sign him for 3x years and then hit on a center in the draft there's a good chance Reiter becomes the depth within that first year after signing. So try to pay him as close to that as possible given that you know you're gonna get a little wallet raped in FA.
 

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If Corbett is the plan at center then why is Jourdan claiming that they still are focused on the center position.
It seems that if they were willing to move Corbett to center then that would already be the plan.

Jourdan did mention that there are centers in this draft capable of starting right away. Maybe we’ve got more of Snead’s smoke screening about drafting one early

The Rams need to be focused on the Center position, but that could also entail the draft. As far as her saying something will happen soon which pleases us Rams fan, if it's at the Center position, that flag may have already flown as far as free agency is concerned. If she believes fans will be pleased Blythe returns, then i'd say she's out of step with the fanbase. At this point, for the Rams to please me in free agency, it has to be at another position than Center. As far as Corbett being moved to Center earlier, remember, there wasn't much of a camp this last season due to Covid, and pre-season games were non-existent, Blythe was considered the 'sure thing', and other than flipping Edwards & Corbett from their previous OG positions, the entire OL remained pretty static in 2020. jmo.
 

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I mentioned this before but here it is again. The Rams OC met with him Meinerz twice already. Would they be so transparent or could it be a smokescreen?

I’ve always understood it to be that teams try to hide their intentions in the draft. Snead even mentioned it in his last press conference. But then I recall reading that when the Seahawks drafted Russell Wilson that every team in the league knew they were going to be picking him. That seems odd. I guess no other team felt he’d be any good.:oops:
I hope not! I'm getting my hopes up about drafting this Canadian who due to COVID was working out by pancaking live trees!