Possible Narrative the next two weeks - Rams not deserving of SB Birth

[EastRam]

They claim DB is the GOAT because he owns (or will own) every record before the sun sets on his career.

At the end of the day GOAT is up for interpretation. Are you going by stats or by titles.

I don't know about everyone else. But there's not a QB playing today that is the GOAT.

Not with these rules.

 

[majrleaged]

Yep that is the narrative. Wingo and Kellerman are the only two that brought up the facemask on the previous drive for us that likely leads to a TD.

The thing that irks me is that there was so much more than that. Saints had the whistle all day until that play - this should be easy for everyone to understand with the 7 to 3 penalty discrepancy coupled with how many missed calls on the Saints there were.

Unfortunately I guess I care too much about what people think, but I'm sure this will blow over at some point.

It's easy to get over. SCORE BOARD BABY. WERE GOING TO TH SUPER BOWL. Then in my head I here Olvenchkin screaming YEEEEAAAHHHH!!!!! When he finally won the cup. That's an awesome clip. I'm getting chills.

 

[FarNorth]

People want to make it out as this eye-popping horrendously awful, epic fail call, but at full speed, it was closer to a bang bang play than a lot of people are willing to be honest about.

Agree. It's also about the angle the play is being viewed from. From the sideline replay, at full speed, it does look like the ball is passing NRC and the receiver as the hit occurs. From other angles, it's clearly not the case.

We were fortunate on that call. However to everyone else's point....
- The Saints left 8 points on the field in the first quarter. It could have easily been a 21-0 game rather than 13-0
- There were at least 3 missed face mask penalties on the Saints
- In the 4th quarter, there was a play where a Saints player jumped on our guy after he was down. Surprised there was no personal foul called there
- The Saints failed to stop the other 20 points worth of Rams scoring drives
- The Saints failed to stop the game tying drive
- The Saints failed to score in OT after winning the coin toss
- The Saints tossed up an interception in OT
- The Saints failed to stop the Rams drive into field goal range in OT
- The Saints failed to block the game winning field goal

Hmmmmm.....looks like maybe there was more to the game than one blown PI call.

Do we all like to complain about the refs? Oh yeah! It's a sport unto itself to bitch about the Zebras. Nonetheless, one call didn't make the game.

It's a judgment call, both on the timing and whether it could have been caught. In real time I thought, and still think, it was a good non call. Appeared to me the ball arrived at the same time that NRC did, or so in close in time that, as if often the case on potential PI plays, it wasn't called-- maybe because it was obvious to the ref that the receiver couldn't catch it anyway.

No one right has a right to demand that a judgment call be made in their favor on a close play that's within the discretion of the ref. Especially not in a game where the refs are letting them play, and that had worked in the Saints' favor. I also prefer debatable non calls to bad flags which shouldn't have been thrown, such as enabled the Saints to beat Pittsburgh.

And I'm p***ed off at Asshole Face, who did a great job diverting attention from his own bad play calling, an interception in OT, and two other dropped INTs.

 

[majrleaged]

Jesus how many more of these threads do we need?

As many as we want. This is a long time coming, and I'm having a great time on this board.

 

[Mojo Ram]

I will say that IF that non-call sequence would have been the last time the Saints possessed the ball AND needed go-ahead points to win....the non-call would have had eye-popping consequences to the final outcome.

It didn't. Therefor the Saints need to look beyond the horrid NFL landscape of officiating and look instead at themselves and what they didn't do to win the game up 3 points with 1 min left and into an advantageous OT.

 

[FarNorth]

Tuned in a radio station on my way to work and the person on says Rams should feel illegitimate for representing NFC and thinks Pats will blow them out.

Opinion: Rams did more so much more than benefit from no-call to reach Super Bowl


Dan Wolken, USA TODAY


Published 10:56 p.m. ET Jan. 20, 2019 | Updated 2:33 a.m. ET Jan. 21, 201


NEW ORLEANS — The man who unwittingly became the focus of the NFL’s latest officiating debacle stood in the middle of a crowded but jubilant locker room at the NFC Championship Game and owned up to everything.

Yes, Nickell Robey-Coleman admitted, the L.A. Rams were caught flat-footed on a play they didn’t see coming, and yes, he was surprised the flag never came after he rammed into receiver Tommylee Lewis to prevent the touchdown that would have probably sent the New Orleans Saints to the Super Bowl.

“You look at the football gods like, thank you, got away with one tonight,” Robey-Coleman said. “It is what it is.”

But if you think the Rams don’t deserve to be in the Super Bowl, if you watched what happened here Sunday and want to focus on an officiating error and an unlucky break, you’re missing the big picture.

Despite all the talk that will reverberate through the offseason about a controversial non-call in Los Angeles 26, New Orleans 23, the question remains: How did the Saints manage to lose this game?

Until Greg Zuerlein’s 57-yard field goal went through the uprights early in the overtime period, it never once felt like this was the Rams’ game to win. Not when the radio in quarterback Jared Goff’s helmet was malfunctioning, not when his team fell behind 13-0 and needed a fake punt just to generate a single a first down, and certainly not when Drew Brees had a fourth-quarter lead and three opportunities to land the knockout punch.

How many advantages did the Saints expect? How many would they have needed to beat a team that outgained them 378-290 and took a full quarter to get used to the crowd noise generated in the Superdome that was causing significant communication issues for the Rams offense.

“So look, we ain’t going to complain about no pass interference because bad calls get made every day in this game,” Rams cornerback Marcus Peters said. “Just me knowing football, if coach (Asshole Face) runs the ball on first and second down, we’re probably not even talking about this. You give Sean McVay the ball back with 1:43 or something, we’re going to score or kick a field goal. We got it done.”

The Saints may have a legit gripe about the call, but they would be hard-pressed to call themselves the better team Sunday. Given an early opportunity to land a knock-out punch, they instead settled for field goals. Then, over the final three quarters, they put together exactly one touchdown drive, taking the pressure off a young quarterback in Jared Goff who really only made one spectacular throw — a deep out to Brandin Cooks that set up a touchdown at the end of the first half to cut the deficit to 13-10.

“It was disorientingly loud, but we fought through it, Goff said. “When our defense is playing so well, I know I don’t have to make it all up at once. We had some time to get ourselves together.”

Meanwhile, the Rams adjusted. They won despite a no-show by star running back Todd Gurley, who muffed a pass on their second drive of the game that turned into an interception, dropped another one on a key third down and essentially got benched, rushing just four times for 10 yards. They won despite converting just 6-of-16 third downs on the road. They won despite a mountain of evidence pointing toward the Saints, right up until Zuerlein had to make a 48-yarder just to take the game to overtime.

“You felt us start to take control of the game (near halftime), but we never really wrested it away maybe the way you’d want,” Rams executive vice president of football operations Kevin Demoff said. “But it's been that way. This team had a ton of games this year that came down to the fourth quarter. Last year we had a ton of games where we blew people out and maybe weren’t battle tested.”

That’s the biggest difference between this Rams team, which is now on the verge of a championship, and the one that flamed out at home last year in the wild-card round against the Atlanta Falcons.

The Rams are always capable of lighting up the scoreboard at a moment’s notice. But clearly this one has found plenty of ways to win and needed just one lucky break to silence the Superdome.

“When you catch breaks in this league you have to take advantage,” Robey-Coleman said. “This league is too hard for you to catch a break and not take advantage of it. The door opens and closes just that quick. It feels so good to be on the right side of it.”

Follow Dan Wolken on Twitter @DanWolken.

 

[LARAMSinFeb.]

 

[TK42-RAM]

 

[thirteen28]

“So look, we ain’t going to complain about no pass interference because bad calls get made every day in this game,” Rams cornerback Marcus Peters said. “Just me knowing football, if coach (Asshole Face) runs the ball on first and second down, we’re probably not even talking about this. You give Sean McVay the ball back with 1:43 or something, we’re going to score or kick a field goal. We got it done.”

I love how Peters twists the knife into Payton!!! More Gumbo for you, Marcus!!!

 

[nighttrain]

`William Money~

 

[dang]

I love how Peters twists the knife into Payton!!! More Gumbo for you, Marcus!!!

Payton will not be sleeping well until after the Super Bowl!

 

[FarNorth]

I love how Peters twists the knife into Payton!!! More Gumbo for you, Marcus!!!

As Marcus says, "bad calls get made every day":

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...interference-that-may-cost-them-playoff-spot/

 

[LARAMSinFeb.]

Unfortunate that controversy overshadows this playoff game

Only for ignorant people. They're always in ample supply.

 

[Merlin]

As many as we want. This is a long time coming, and I'm having a great time on this board.

My point is the whining over the non-call is all over the airwaves, social media, even friends & family talking about it. Already getting old tbh cheers.

 

[Varg6]

Let's be real here. If the roles were reversed and the non call happened to us on offense, and the Saints won the game, they wouldn't care and would take the win any day.

 

[ramdonnie]

The Rams outplayed the Saints and McVay out-coached Payton. It's not fair to look at that one call. It has to be put into perspective by looking at the entire game and the game before.

In the first match, the game was tied at 14-14. Hecker clearly made the first down on the fake kick, and the refs wrongfully denied the Rams of the first down. That was a game-changing call. The Rams could have gone up 21-14 or at minimum 17-14, but the score was flipped to 14-21 when the Saints marched down the field after the refs blew the call and changed the momentum of the game. IMO the Saints would have lost that game, and they never would have had home-field advantage. The Rams would have been 14-2 on the year. The Saints did not deserve their record. That is my take on that.

The Saints also lucked out against the Eagles. They won by a lucky interception at the end of the game. Did they earn that win? No. The Eagles hurt themselves.

Yesterday, the Saints were not called for most of their penalties. I would love to see the full game again and highlight all the no-calls they got, but some of the no-calls that I noticed: 1. Saints intentionally rips helmet off Rams defender in end zone (Unnecessary roughness 15 yards). 2. Holding no-call on 3rd and long when Thomas gains like 25 yards and Saints go on to score after. They should have had to punt. 3. I saw 2 plays where Saints tackled Rams receivers. 4. On a punt the Saints pushed a Rams player down from the back, but the Rams were called for a penalty on the same play (announcers admitted it was a bad call against the Rams). 5. There was a face-mask on Goff that was not called.

The Saints were given the ball on the Rams 15 yard-line when the pass went through Gurley's hands. This was another lucky play to help the Saints. Rams hurt themselves, Saints did not earn those points. The Rams also gave them another 3 points when they jumped offsides on 4th and 2 near the goal line. The QB is not allowed to move, but Brees moved to get them to jump.

The entire game the Saints were only called for 2, 5 yard penalties and 1 holding near the end of the game. The refs overlooked their fouls the entire game, so that is why they did not call the last one on the Rams, and even though they did not call it, the Saints lost because of the bonehead play-calling by Payton after the call. They could have ran down the clock more, but they chose to pass and blew it. They were not good enough to make the plays, the Rams were.

The Rams are the more talented team and deserved the win. They held them to 48 yards rushing - the same as they did against the Cowboys, and they held Thomas to about 35 yards. Brees barely passed for over 200 and most of his yards came from short passes to the running backs. The Rams outplayed them on all phases of the game.

The league is making a big deal about this no-call, but they are overlooking all the no-calls by the Saints, and the bad call that gave the Saints home-field advantage in the first place. They never should have been 13-3 and that game should have been played in LA. Saints luck ran out.

The Rams earned the win and the right to be in the Super Bowl. Go Rams!

 

[wmc540]

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[ramdonnie]

Let's be real here. If the roles were reversed and the non call happened to us on offense, and the Saints won the game, they wouldn't care and would take the win any day.

Saints won the first match by a blown call on nearly the same exact part of the field. It's almost even payback, but the bad call in first game took the ball out of the Ram's hands and points off the board. This no-call only gave the Rams a few more seconds on the clock.

Hecker made the first down in that first game; Rams probably would have gone up 21-14. If Rams won that game, as they might have if not for the blown call, we would have been 14-2 with home field advantage. Saints probably would have finished 12-4 on the year.

 

[Steve808]

The saints are whining that they want instant replay for PI. I looked at that play again and in the same play, the saints receiver basically punches the defender in the head. Offsetting penalties should have been the best case scenario.

 

[BritishLARam]

The Rams outplayed the Saints and McVay out-coached Payton. It's not fair to look at that one call. It has to be put into perspective by looking at the entire game and the game before.

In the first match, the game was tied at 14-14. Hecker clearly made the first down on the fake kick, and the refs wrongfully denied the Rams of the first down. That was a game-changing call. The Rams could have gone up 21-14 or at minimum 17-14, but the score was flipped to 14-21 when the Saints marched down the field after the refs blew the call and changed the momentum of the game. IMO the Saints would have lost that game, and they never would have had home-field advantage. The Rams would have been 14-2 on the year. The Saints did not deserve their record. That is my take on that.

The Saints also lucked out against the Eagles. They won by a lucky interception at the end of the game. Did they earn that win? No. The Eagles hurt themselves.

Yesterday, the Saints were not called for most of their penalties. I would love to see the full game again and highlight all the no-calls they got, but some of the no-calls that I noticed: 1. Saints intentionally rips helmet off Rams defender in end zone (Unnecessary roughness 15 yards). 2. Holding no-call on 3rd and long when Thomas gains like 25 yards and Saints go on to score after. They should have had to punt. 3. I saw 2 plays where Saints tackled Rams receivers. 4. On a punt the Saints pushed a Rams player down from the back, but the Rams were called for a penalty on the same play (announcers admitted it was a bad call against the Rams). 5. There was a face-mask on Goff that was not called.

The Saints were given the ball on the Rams 15 yard-line when the pass went through Gurley's hands. This was another lucky play to help the Saints. Rams hurt themselves, Saints did not earn those points. The Rams also gave them another 3 points when they jumped offsides on 4th and 2 near the goal line. The QB is not allowed to move, but Brees moved to get them to jump.

The entire game the Saints were only called for 2, 5 yard penalties and 1 holding near the end of the game. The refs overlooked their fouls the entire game, so that is why they did not call the last one on the Rams, and even though they did not call it, the Saints lost because of the bonehead play-calling by Payton after the call. They could have ran down the clock more, but they chose to pass and blew it. They were not good enough to make the plays, the Rams were.

The Rams are the more talented team and deserved the win. They held them to 48 yards rushing - the same as they did against the Cowboys, and they held Thomas to about 35 yards. Brees barely passed for over 200 and most of his yards came from short passes to the running backs. The Rams outplayed them on all phases of the game.

The league is making a big deal about this no-call, but they are overlooking all the no-calls by the Saints, and the bad call that gave the Saints home-field advantage in the first place. They never should have been 13-3 and that game should have been played in LA. Saints luck ran out.

The Rams earned the win and the right to be in the Super Bowl. Go Rams!

Totally agree. What a bunch of cry babies.