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I think he could be a fine RG or a fine RT or a fine LT. Which makes him a valuable pick. Depends on who we lose off the OL. Just Dotson, grab him. Dotson and Shelton, I would lean more towards finding a C with the first pick. JPJ preferably. Just Dotson, still could go JPJ or another IOL or T. 1 more season and we'll have to decide whether to pay Alaric or not. They have options to be sure.
Lots of options. Glad they can say that. Feels like much different off-season than we're used to with a first round pick and cap space.
 

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Lots of options. Glad they can say that. Feels like much different off-season than we're used to with a first round pick and cap space.
We've deviated from the norm on 2 counts. A first round pick AND a high comp. I'd like to believe you give a crew like ours those benefits and only good things can happen. I hope we don't out think the good fortune. Make it count, BIG.
 

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Yes, you are correct. Let me be more specific , a LOT. Most of the Tackles that will be available @ 19 will be players that have only played on the right side. Faushanu (Washington) may be the only one that lasts to pick 19.
19? For one of the top two OLTs? You put too much stock into the combine. Fashanu has a very high ceiling. He is the best pass blocker in the draft.
I thought the article was in this thread, but I can’t find it…

One team personnel guy in (the article I can’t find) said the 2024 first round is loaded with players with 1st round grades. I think he was quoted saying the entire first round. Some years, it’s half the round has first round grades.

So… this feels like a draft to have multiple picks in the first 2 rounds.

Do it, Snead.

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And the overall depth of the class is not good. Tough year to find late round gems. Trade up Snead!
 

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If the Rams prioritize character and love of the game again then Ray Davis should be at the top of their list of RBs. Since the age of 8 he was in the foster care program. At 12 he spent a few weeks in a shelter.


Nine months ago, everybody wanted Ray Davis. Eleven years earlier, nobody did.

“I would sit there for days upon days texting family members, texting friends asking someone to just take me in temporarily, just for maybe a two-or three-week stint. So I could be back in the real world, so I can go to school,” Davis said. “But as the days go on, you start to realize that nobody wants you.”

He was 12.

Davis, one of the nation’s most coveted transfers as a 1,000-yard Southeastern Conference running back, has an incredible life story to share. From two stints in a homeless shelter to Vanderbilt graduate with many more chapters still to be penned.

“You never hear the success stories, you always hear the failure stories,” Davis said. “My goal is to be a successful story. I want to be an advocate for kids in the system, foster kids, because I once was like them. I experienced all the hardship that you go through being in that system, waiting for someone to adopt you or for someone not to want you because of how old you are or the background that you come from.”

Re’Mahn “Ray” Davis grew up in the Hayes Valley area of San Francisco, bouncing between extended family members and acquaintances while both parents, Jessica Blazer and Raymond Davis, were in and out of trouble with the law. By the time he was 8 he was in the foster care system and even spent time in a homeless shelter. But the most challenging point was a two-month stint in the shelter when he was 12.

“I was waiting to be adopted or for someone to take temporary care of me,” Davis said. “It was rough because I felt that nobody wanted me. Nobody wanted a 12-year-old. Everybody wanted someone younger they could raise, they wanted them to be theirs.

“I learned to be a grown man at age 12,” he said. “I learned how to control my emotions and to know that at the end of the day all I got is myself.”

When he entered the shelter, Davis was joined by his younger siblings, one was 6, the other was a baby. It was then he made a swift choice no adult should be forced to face. He allowed his younger siblings to live with a godmother.

“I had to make the decision to split us up,” Davis said. “My sister’s godmother wanted them. She didn't have room for me. So I had to make a very important decision. I was 12 and I made that decision because I didn't want them to go through the hardship that I went through. They were younger and I didn't want them to have to sit there and wonder who was going to come and get them? There was also a chance of us getting split up.

“I knew the hardships I was going to have to face,” he said, “but I wanted them to to be together.”

Now alone, the only child in the facility, Davis spent roughly 60 days in a basement beneath a San Francisco hospital.

“I can never forget those days and I can never forget that shelter. I could paint a picture of it right now,” Davis said, his striking green eyes staring into the distance.

“It was under General Hospital with a driveway taking you down there. Once you go in, they got a big glass window with all the workers in the offices. The front lobby, you have a chair and a longer sofa. They have an old school VCR and a TV. In the hallway to the right, they got the food pantry in the kitchen. Then they had a little game room with a PlayStation 2 and board games. Stuff that children could distract themselves. Then if you go behind the glass to the left, that's where they had all the rooms with the beds. They had clothes and accessories that kids needed. So I was always taken care of in that situation.”

As a homeless minor and a ward of the state, Davis was prohibited from leaving the facility.

“You can't leave unless you get adopted because I had no home,” Davis said. “So I would wake up, keep the PJs on and brush my teeth and then go watch some movies on the VCR, go play MLB on the PlayStation. The most I got out was in the little driveway where they had a basketball hoop. I would shoot with one of the workers. But that was probably only an hour throughout the day, maybe two. It felt like I never saw the daylight for a while.”

The staff, however, made sure to keep tabs on the kid.

“Every worker made it the best two months a kid could ask for in a sense of just not thinking about the next day or what's coming next,” Davis said. “I was there for so long that every time they did a night shift for day shift change, they kept seeing the same kid there. So we got close.”

It is logical for an impressionable youngster, given the hand he had been dealt, to harden into a bitter person. The same is true of Davis if not for one saving grace, one avenue of hope for the kid nobody loved.

“The one thing that got me out of it was football,” Davis said. “It sounds cliche, but it's real. Anybody that knew me from age 12, they could tell you football was always something I looked forward to. I could never think about all the negatives in life, I could always think about getting back on the football field because that's when everybody loved me.”

From age 9 through 14, Davis played for the Seahawks, but being in the system interrupted his seasons.

“When football was taken away, I had some really rough times,” Davis said. “Because when football was taken away, the people were gone.”

Other people, however, were beginning to move, guardian angels one and all.

Davis completed eighth grade when his former teachers, Ben and Alexa Klaus, asked him to move into their apartment for a brief period. Ben was his third-grade teacher, Alexa taught kindergarten.

As a young teenager, Davis was back living with his grandmother, though it was a struggle for both. “Unfortunately, I didn't have the best meals and I didn't have the clothes. I didn't have the will to want to go to school.”

It was during that time that fate intervened. Davis, a stellar athlete, was a member of a youth basketball team that traveled to Santa Barbara for a tournament.

“A coach took me, but couldn't take me back. Why? I don't know,” Davis said. “So I asked every teammate, all eight, for a ride home. One of my best friends to this day, William Brown and his family, was going to take me but they only could fit me in the trunk because it was packed.”

His last gasp was Bradley, whose family agreed, but with a caveat.

“His mom, Lora Banks, said, ‘If you get in the car, I'm going to ask you a hundred questions,’” Davis said. “I thought it was a joke. I swear, I thought it was a joke. She ended up asking me about 300 questions. She learned my life over the course of six hours.”

“It was probably more like a thousand questions,” Banks said. “He was 15 so he wasn’t exactly forthcoming, just another mysterious teenager who prior to that day had no real relationship with my son.

“I didn't know where he lived. I didn't know who his parents were, if he had parents. I didn't know him from elementary school,” Banks added. “He was on the team and then he wasn’t and then he was again. There were rumors flying around. But I only knew that he wasn't getting an access to education like my kids and I just wanted to know why and what I could do.”

Unbeknownst to the teenager, Davis’ life course had just spun on its axis.

“She never gave up on me,” Davis said. “The next day, she invited me to the family dinners because she knew I wasn't eating. Lora was able to help me and show me a purpose in life. She never wanted anything back, to this day she will downplay it all.”

Davis still lists Lora Banks and her husband, Greg Ley, as his guardians.

"That's like my mom. She raised me from age 15 on,” he said. “I'm a part of the family group chats, family vacations.”

In 2016, Davis’ basketball team was invited to play a tournament in Reno, Nevada, but he wasn’t allowed to leave the state. So Banks completed the exhaustive paperwork to become a temporary guardian for one month.

Later, the state suggested a new foster home for Davis, but they were leery of the circumstances. Banks, who was studying law at the time, found a loophole that allowed her to become the educational rights holder for Davis.

It was also during this time that Davis blossomed into one of the city’s premier high school running backs, which led to an unlikely intersection of athletics and academics.

A family friend suggested Davis consider attending Trinity-Pawling, an all boys boarding school in Pawling, New York. It’s the same school from which former Stanford star and NFL linebacker Shayne Skov, also a San Francisco native, graduated.

Davis survived a telephone interview and the next day, Banks accompanied him to New York for an on-site meeting with the dean of students. He was accepted on the spot and awarded a full scholarship.

Theo Johnson is another with a rough childhood

 

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If the Rams prioritize character and love of the game again then Ray Davis should be at the top of their list of RBs. Since the age of 8 he was in the foster care program. At 12 he spent a few weeks in a shelter.


Nine months ago, everybody wanted Ray Davis. Eleven years earlier, nobody did.

“I would sit there for days upon days texting family members, texting friends asking someone to just take me in temporarily, just for maybe a two-or three-week stint. So I could be back in the real world, so I can go to school,” Davis said. “But as the days go on, you start to realize that nobody wants you.”

He was 12.

Davis, one of the nation’s most coveted transfers as a 1,000-yard Southeastern Conference running back, has an incredible life story to share. From two stints in a homeless shelter to Vanderbilt graduate with many more chapters still to be penned.

“You never hear the success stories, you always hear the failure stories,” Davis said. “My goal is to be a successful story. I want to be an advocate for kids in the system, foster kids, because I once was like them. I experienced all the hardship that you go through being in that system, waiting for someone to adopt you or for someone not to want you because of how old you are or the background that you come from.”

Re’Mahn “Ray” Davis grew up in the Hayes Valley area of San Francisco, bouncing between extended family members and acquaintances while both parents, Jessica Blazer and Raymond Davis, were in and out of trouble with the law. By the time he was 8 he was in the foster care system and even spent time in a homeless shelter. But the most challenging point was a two-month stint in the shelter when he was 12.

“I was waiting to be adopted or for someone to take temporary care of me,” Davis said. “It was rough because I felt that nobody wanted me. Nobody wanted a 12-year-old. Everybody wanted someone younger they could raise, they wanted them to be theirs.

“I learned to be a grown man at age 12,” he said. “I learned how to control my emotions and to know that at the end of the day all I got is myself.”

When he entered the shelter, Davis was joined by his younger siblings, one was 6, the other was a baby. It was then he made a swift choice no adult should be forced to face. He allowed his younger siblings to live with a godmother.

“I had to make the decision to split us up,” Davis said. “My sister’s godmother wanted them. She didn't have room for me. So I had to make a very important decision. I was 12 and I made that decision because I didn't want them to go through the hardship that I went through. They were younger and I didn't want them to have to sit there and wonder who was going to come and get them? There was also a chance of us getting split up.

“I knew the hardships I was going to have to face,” he said, “but I wanted them to to be together.”

Now alone, the only child in the facility, Davis spent roughly 60 days in a basement beneath a San Francisco hospital.

“I can never forget those days and I can never forget that shelter. I could paint a picture of it right now,” Davis said, his striking green eyes staring into the distance.

“It was under General Hospital with a driveway taking you down there. Once you go in, they got a big glass window with all the workers in the offices. The front lobby, you have a chair and a longer sofa. They have an old school VCR and a TV. In the hallway to the right, they got the food pantry in the kitchen. Then they had a little game room with a PlayStation 2 and board games. Stuff that children could distract themselves. Then if you go behind the glass to the left, that's where they had all the rooms with the beds. They had clothes and accessories that kids needed. So I was always taken care of in that situation.”

As a homeless minor and a ward of the state, Davis was prohibited from leaving the facility.

“You can't leave unless you get adopted because I had no home,” Davis said. “So I would wake up, keep the PJs on and brush my teeth and then go watch some movies on the VCR, go play MLB on the PlayStation. The most I got out was in the little driveway where they had a basketball hoop. I would shoot with one of the workers. But that was probably only an hour throughout the day, maybe two. It felt like I never saw the daylight for a while.”

The staff, however, made sure to keep tabs on the kid.

“Every worker made it the best two months a kid could ask for in a sense of just not thinking about the next day or what's coming next,” Davis said. “I was there for so long that every time they did a night shift for day shift change, they kept seeing the same kid there. So we got close.”

It is logical for an impressionable youngster, given the hand he had been dealt, to harden into a bitter person. The same is true of Davis if not for one saving grace, one avenue of hope for the kid nobody loved.

“The one thing that got me out of it was football,” Davis said. “It sounds cliche, but it's real. Anybody that knew me from age 12, they could tell you football was always something I looked forward to. I could never think about all the negatives in life, I could always think about getting back on the football field because that's when everybody loved me.”

From age 9 through 14, Davis played for the Seahawks, but being in the system interrupted his seasons.

“When football was taken away, I had some really rough times,” Davis said. “Because when football was taken away, the people were gone.”

Other people, however, were beginning to move, guardian angels one and all.

Davis completed eighth grade when his former teachers, Ben and Alexa Klaus, asked him to move into their apartment for a brief period. Ben was his third-grade teacher, Alexa taught kindergarten.

As a young teenager, Davis was back living with his grandmother, though it was a struggle for both. “Unfortunately, I didn't have the best meals and I didn't have the clothes. I didn't have the will to want to go to school.”

It was during that time that fate intervened. Davis, a stellar athlete, was a member of a youth basketball team that traveled to Santa Barbara for a tournament.

“A coach took me, but couldn't take me back. Why? I don't know,” Davis said. “So I asked every teammate, all eight, for a ride home. One of my best friends to this day, William Brown and his family, was going to take me but they only could fit me in the trunk because it was packed.”

His last gasp was Bradley, whose family agreed, but with a caveat.

“His mom, Lora Banks, said, ‘If you get in the car, I'm going to ask you a hundred questions,’” Davis said. “I thought it was a joke. I swear, I thought it was a joke. She ended up asking me about 300 questions. She learned my life over the course of six hours.”

“It was probably more like a thousand questions,” Banks said. “He was 15 so he wasn’t exactly forthcoming, just another mysterious teenager who prior to that day had no real relationship with my son.

“I didn't know where he lived. I didn't know who his parents were, if he had parents. I didn't know him from elementary school,” Banks added. “He was on the team and then he wasn’t and then he was again. There were rumors flying around. But I only knew that he wasn't getting an access to education like my kids and I just wanted to know why and what I could do.”

Unbeknownst to the teenager, Davis’ life course had just spun on its axis.

“She never gave up on me,” Davis said. “The next day, she invited me to the family dinners because she knew I wasn't eating. Lora was able to help me and show me a purpose in life. She never wanted anything back, to this day she will downplay it all.”

Davis still lists Lora Banks and her husband, Greg Ley, as his guardians.

"That's like my mom. She raised me from age 15 on,” he said. “I'm a part of the family group chats, family vacations.”

In 2016, Davis’ basketball team was invited to play a tournament in Reno, Nevada, but he wasn’t allowed to leave the state. So Banks completed the exhaustive paperwork to become a temporary guardian for one month.

Later, the state suggested a new foster home for Davis, but they were leery of the circumstances. Banks, who was studying law at the time, found a loophole that allowed her to become the educational rights holder for Davis.

It was also during this time that Davis blossomed into one of the city’s premier high school running backs, which led to an unlikely intersection of athletics and academics.

A family friend suggested Davis consider attending Trinity-Pawling, an all boys boarding school in Pawling, New York. It’s the same school from which former Stanford star and NFL linebacker Shayne Skov, also a San Francisco native, graduated.

Davis survived a telephone interview and the next day, Banks accompanied him to New York for an on-site meeting with the dean of students. He was accepted on the spot and awarded a full scholarship.

Theo Johnson is another with a rough childhood


That story...it made me cry like a baby. I haven't been through the exact circumstances...but I also remember the feeling of not being wanted, of being homeless.

If we took Davis in the fourth round (trading into a fourth-round pick, obviously), I wouldn't be upset at all.
 

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Ideally, being able to nab a LT at #19 with a 5-year rookie contract could possibly make overpaying for Dotson more palatable.

That is, if Alaric Jackson is open to sliding back inside to LG while Avila moves to Center. It would probably give the team a much better OLine, but I doubt it happens.

Not a big fan of Jackson at either Guard spot or moving Avilla

I get that the Rams said they liked what he did at RG in 2022, but, to be fair, he was playing with a line full of back ups. It seemed like we were going for more power type guards last season and it worked wonderfully. Alaraic at 6'7 285 doesn't seem to fit that scheme IMO.
 

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I get that the Rams said they liked what he did at RG in 2022, but, to be fair, he was playing with a line full of back ups. It seemed like we were going for more power type guards last season and it worked wonderfully. Alaraic at 6'7 285 doesn't seem to fit that scheme IMO.
Wait, do you think AJ is actually 285? They liked him at RG specifically because he was bigger and stronger than the other players they had on the inside and saw what they could do behind him running some duo.
 

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Wait, do you think AJ is actually 285? They liked him at RG specifically because he was bigger and stronger than the other players they had on the inside and saw what they could do behind him running some duo.
I really don't know his weight, every where I look for him says 284-285 including the Rams site. So, don't know.
 

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I really don't know his weight, every where I look for him says 284-285 including the Rams site. So, don't know.
Fair, and neither do I but I think it's pretty reasonable to assume it's north of 320 by looking at him and is also what he reported he was after giving up veganism and that was before even getting into an NFL weight program.

Weights on sites are absolutely the one number to take with a heaping grain of salt.

All that being said, dude will absolutely, positively not play any other position than LT. He said so, it's in his contract.
 
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I get that the Rams said they liked what he did at RG in 2022, but, to be fair, he was playing with a line full of back ups. It seemed like we were going for more power type guards last season and it worked wonderfully. Alaraic at 6'7 285 doesn't seem to fit that scheme IMO.
That's not accurate. He's not taller or smaller than Havenstein.

Combine measurements
 

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I am always excited to see the skill guys sort out with the 40 times and cone. But then my head starts to spin with the freaks putting up insane times and trying to keep them in perspective. Where's my excedrin. :woozy2:
 

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I really don't know his weight, every where I look for him says 284-285 including the Rams site. So, don't know.

I'd say his weight is more like 330 lbs. A-Jax is a big dude, but he carries it naturally.
 

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I really don't know his weight, every where I look for him says 284-285 including the Rams site. So, don't know.
This topic has been discussed half-a-dozen times over the past couple years. The Rams' site, for some dumb-ass reason, never up-dated Alaric Jackson's weight.

He is in the 330-range. Jackson even acknowledged such more than a year ago.
 

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Fair, and neither do I but I think it's pretty reasonable to assume it's north of 320 by looking at him and is also what he reported he was after giving up veganism and that was before even getting into an NFL weight program.

Weights on sites are absolutely the one number to take with a heaping grain of salt.

All that being said, dude will absolutely, positively not play any other position than LT. He said so, it's in his contract.
What contract? He has no contract right now. I would think, as long as you're getting your money, play where I want you to play. I mean, that's what I always hear...."it's all about the money". Can't imagine a guy on a RFA tender has the leverage to dictate anything like that. Don't want to sign with us and play where we want you to play? What if we simply match the offer you get? Bottom line is if he's a legit LT, then he'll get LT offers that come with the knowledge they're also giving up a pick. If he's a legit LT, then our offer will be for LT. Having said all that, I hope he's the legit LT that some think. Otherwise, let's draft one.
 

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What contract? He has no contract right now. I would think, as long as you're getting your money, play where I want you to play. I mean, that's what I always hear...."it's all about the money". Can't imagine a guy on a RFA tender has the leverage to dictate anything like that. Don't want to sign with us and play where we want you to play? What if we simply match the offer you get? Bottom line is if he's a legit LT, then he'll get LT offers that come with the knowledge they're also giving up a pick. If he's a legit LT, then our offer will be for LT. Having said all that, I hope he's the legit LT that some think. Otherwise, let's draft one.

I think he's poking fun at oldnotdead saying that "A-Jax said he will only play left tackle", when it's clearly a falsehood and slander.
 

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Fair, and neither do I but I think it's pretty reasonable to assume it's north of 320 by looking at him and is also what he reported he was after giving up veganism and that was before even getting into an NFL weight program.

Weights on sites are absolutely the one number to take with a heaping grain of salt.

All that being said, dude will absolutely, positively not play any other position than LT. He said so, it's in his contract.
“Wanting to play LT” and “absolutely, positively not play any other position than LT” are worlds apart. Can anyone confirm exactly what AJax said?
 

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“Wanting to play LT” and “absolutely, positively not play any other position than LT” are worlds apart. Can anyone confirm exactly what AJax said?

I'll confirm what he actually said, to the letter:

https://theramswire.usatoday.com/2023/05/30/rams-alaric-jackson-left-tackle-guard-offensive-line/

"I love playing left side, honestly. Tackle is my thing, for the most part. I understand they paid Joe, so I get the whole part. But whatever I can do for the team, I'll do for the team."

Alaric Jackson, quoted verbatim on May 30th, 2023.

Can you literally blame him for wanting to play a position he's mostly played throughout his entire football career in tackle (played right tackle at Iowa)? And nowhere, absolutely nowhere does he state that he won't play any other position.

Maybe it's player-speak, but A-Jax doesn't strike me as a guy who wouldn't play whatever position is needed of him, based on these comments.

I hope this comment gets fucking pinned so there is no more baseless insinuations, disingenuous assertions, and what basically amounts to slander towards him not wanting to play tackle, even though it's only getting peddled in other arenas.