Your take on draft day round 1

[Flatlyner]

View: https://twitter.com/JaimeEisner/status/1782241212470100013?t=t7XqI-shRdaeCf59gmcfWQ&s=19

This would be stunning. And the Vikings best case scenario.

 

[So Ram]

Me too.

My odds:

50% OT
25% WR or please baby Jesus we get Bowers
25% Defensive Player

75% we go offense… that’s my dart at the wall.

That’s a Serious Dart !!! Can’t see that At ALL !!!3

—The hardest position to evaluate & to pas on would be a franchise QB. Have we heard anything lately on Stetson Bennett lately ?

IMO there is NO WAY The Rams draft a OT. In all honest though I don’t see The Rams staying put a 19!!!

 

[DzRams]

Okay, here's my take. Rams attempt to trade up in draft but it doesn't work out. Rams field calls for trade down scenario but don't like the offers. Plan C commences and they stay at 19. Rams take Latu at 19.

Edit: I've warmed to the idea that Latu could go earlier than 19 but... I actually have a hard time finding a team before us that picks him given the other players on the board, their talent and team needs. Love to see from guys who they think picks Latu before us. Think both he and Verse are there and if there's any medical issues with Latu than we go Verse or Newton. Also, think Dejean prob goes before Latu and Verse.

If you think two of the top three edges are going to be there, which players are you thinking are rated above them?

What I'm seeing is:

QB: 4
WR: 3-4 (4 if we're counting Thomas, Jr.)
OT: 3-4
Edge: 1 (Turner...assuming that Latu and Verse are both available at 19)
DL: 1 (by most accounts Newton is rated lower in the 20s.)
CB: 2
TE: 1

That's 16-17 players. Who else do you see going before our pick?

 

[DzRams]

So far he’s had more bad to mediocre drafts than he has great to good imo. But seeing as he hasn’t had first round picks, right now, he’s average

Again...how do we judge bad, mediocre, average, good, or great without a standard? Are we doing things less scientifically and just going by our feelings?

 

[Flatlyner]

If you think two of the top three edges are going to be there, which players are you thinking are rated above them?

What I'm seeing is:

QB: 4
WR: 3-4 (4 if we're counting Thomas, Jr.)
OT: 3-4
Edge: 1 (Turner...assuming that Latu and Verse are both available at 19)
DL: 1 (by most accounts Newton is rated lower in the 20s.)
CB: 2
TE: 1

That's 16-17 players. Who else do you see going before our pick?

How I see it:
QB: 5 (think one of Pennix or Nix goes)
WR: 4
OT: 5 if Fautanu's knee issues is just a incorrect rumor, 4 if not
Edge: 2 (Latu and Turner)
DL: 1
CB: 2
TE: 1

Yeah, I know that is 20, so I'll go with 4 QB I guess. Still think one of the QB needy teams is going to panic a bit.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Again...how do we judge bad, mediocre, average, good, or great without a standard? Are we doing things less scientifically and just going by our feelings?

The draft is far from scientific. Sure teams like to know the RAS but five guys could watch the same player on the field and all come away with a different take.

We all have our own standards for drafting success I guess. To me, a first and second rounder should be starters. A third and fourth rounder should be a regular contributor. Rounds 5-7 should be core special teamers.

Getting three starters that play at a high level is very successful imo. I don’t consider Rapp, or Long to be very successful, nor Noteboom or Allen.

Drafting injured guys like Barrett Jones and Terrell Lewis is an instant fail imo.

First rounders are hopefully 10 year starters. Trading firsts for proven talent doesn’t equal good drafting. It’s good GMing but isn’t the same as picking a college player.

Then you have Snead’s beloved comp formula. Turning a second round pick or a fourth round pick into a 6th or 7th round comp pick isn’t a high level of success.

If we only count successes and recency bias then sure, he’s great. But another success like last year is unrealistic. However, if he strings a few drafts together were he’s getting three above average to very good starters each year, then I’d say he’s doing great.

 

[PhillyRam]

Looking at the 2025 QB list, maybe if Nix falls into the Rams laps, he might be tough to pass up?

From GBN Report...

 

[fanotodd]

Well it's nice to see so many coming to Snead's defense. Great drafting is getting players who start, star, play complimentary rolls, provide depth all for a team that wins more than it loses. So I guess Snead has drafted very well. Nobody's perfect. And with that in mind lets see how many people criticize the 2024 Rams draft.

All of us at some point by the end of the season!

 

[Malibu]

That’s a Serious Dart !!! Can’t see that At ALL !!!3

—The hardest position to evaluate & to pas on would be a franchise QB. Have we heard anything lately on Stetson Bennett lately ?

IMO there is NO WAY The Rams draft a OT. In all honest though I don’t see The Rams staying put a 19!!!

Ask Carolina about that dart!!!

 

[WestCoastRam]

Final prediction: Rams trade up with Denver... for Byron Murphy.

Lose your minds.

 

[DzRams]

Final prediction: Rams trade up with Denver... for Byron Murphy.

Lose your minds.

Could very well happen. I was working on a mock draft and mine is similar.

Final prediction: Rams trade up with Denver...for Olumuyiwa Fashanu

 

[DzRams]

The draft is far from scientific. Sure teams like to know the RAS but five guys could watch the same player on the field and all come away with a different take.

We all have our own standards for drafting success I guess. To me, a first and second rounder should be starters. A third and fourth rounder should be a regular contributor. Rounds 5-7 should be core special teamers.

Getting three starters that play at a high level is very successful imo. I don’t consider Rapp, or Long to be very successful, nor Noteboom or Allen.

Drafting injured guys like Barrett Jones and Terrell Lewis is an instant fail imo.

First rounders are hopefully 10 year starters. Trading firsts for proven talent doesn’t equal good drafting. It’s good GMing but isn’t the same as picking a college player.

Then you have Snead’s beloved comp formula. Turning a second round pick or a fourth round pick into a 6th or 7th round comp pick isn’t a high level of success.

If we only count successes and recency bias then sure, he’s great. But another success like last year is unrealistic. However, if he strings a few drafts together were he’s getting three above average to very good starters each year, then I’d say he’s doing great.

Definitely agree with your last sentence. Based on all the studies I've ever seen, if he's getting three above-average starters every year, he's not just great, he's in 'best GM of all time' territory.

Your standards feel a little high to me. I recall some studies on a rule of thumb of what's considered a good draft and the results were that two normal starters - not high level starters - was a very good result.

 

[WestCoastRam]

Could very well happen. I was working on a mock draft and mine is similar.

Final prediction: Rams trade up with Denver...for Olumuyiwa Fashanu

Now if Denver beats out the Vikings for QB four... I think we have to trade with the Raiders if they're willing to move down.

Arizona has already said they're not trading till they're on the clock which is super smart and sure sounds like they're moving out. So will Denver or Vikings give them the best price or will the Giants give them the right price AND still remain in the top 10.

 

[WestCoastRam]

Definitely agree with your last sentence. Based on all the studies I've ever seen, if he's getting three above-average starters every year, he's not just great, he's in 'best GM of all time' territory.

Your standards feel a little high to me. I recall some studies on a rule of thumb of what's considered a good draft and the results were that two normal starters - not high level starters - was a very good result.

Yes, this. People have crazy unrealistic expectations of what a good draft is. Last years draft may end up being the best draft of this decade (if everyone remains healthy). It certainly can't be used as a benchmark.

Here's a list of all our drafts:

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/ram/draft.htm

I'd argue that 2021 was a good not great draft. 1 starter. 3 solid role players. 2020, good not great draft. 2 starters (till Cam lost his head) and 4 role players. You have to go back to 2017 for a great draft. And even then, 1 great starter but so many important role players. (Though I think 2019 was a sneaky great draft with so many plus role-players and decent starters).

I will be happy with 1 starter and a ton of role guys and ecstatic if we can get 2 starters and whatever else comes from it.

 

[DzRams]

Now if Denver beats out the Vikings for QB four... I think we have to trade with the Raiders if they're willing to move down.

Arizona has already said they're not trading till they're on the clock which is super smart and sure sounds like they're moving out. So will Denver or Vikings give them the best price or will the Giants give them the right price AND still remain in the top 10.

If Denver beats out the Vikings for QB 4, I don't think we trade up b/c I don't feel the Raiders will be willing to move down especially if they feel we want OL. Many, including Vegas, are projecting them as being interested in OL themselves.

 

[WestCoastRam]

If Denver beats out the Vikings for QB 4, I don't think we trade up b/c I don't feel the Raiders will be willing to move down especially if they feel we want OL. Many, including Vegas, are projecting them as being interested in OL themselves.

Yeah, I could see that too. Even if Rams want to trade up, there's a lot of roadblocks.

 

[Rambitious1]

This is not a thread for what you would do, but what you think the Rams will do with their 1st pick.

Trade up. Rams move from the 19th pick to 14th in a trade with the Saints.

The PICK. Latu

Instant production off the edge week 1.

 

[Karate61]

I will refer to this as my "ignorant", I'm just a fan pick. In making this Round 1 prediction I am going to pretend I am the head coach, and I am going to reflect on last season and what I "think" was the most glaring (not only, just most glaring) weakness. And, the potential improvement from addressing this weakness, in other words, most bang for the buck to get wins.

Prediction: Cooper DeJean

Week in and week out last season the Rams defensive backfield frequently seemed to come up short, and/or let the team down when a stop was needed, etc. I think the oline is now "good enough". I think our wide receiver corps now is "good enough". With the free agent signings this offseason, I think adding DeJean (or one of the other top corners) would really up the game of the defense, keep points off the board and reduce the pressure to score on the offense.

So, most bang for the buck, I'm predicting Rams stay and 19 and pick a CB!

 

[Londoner]

Rams stay and 19 and pick a CB!

A lot of people are saying that he projects more as a safety.

 

[Karate61]

A lot of people are saying that he projects more as a safety.

So, you're saying I was smart to include this in my post:
"I will refer to this as my "ignorant", I'm just a fan pick."
LOL!