Which QB should the Rams draft in the 1st Round next year?
- Thread starter RamsRock
- Start date
-
To unlock all of features of Rams On Demand please take a brief moment to register. Registering is not only quick and easy, it also allows you access to additional features such as live chat, private messaging, and a host of other apps exclusive to Rams On Demand.
Agreed on both counts. Finding an elite guy is hard. But the reason I chose the criteria of long-term starter is because that's an objective thing. A team choosing to stay with a guy for the length of his rookie and/or sign him to an extension is a fact that provides some degree of objectivity.
A young QB has got to go to the right situation with the right coaching staff.
And I question if there are really that many NFL coaching staffs that can develop young QBs.
If the Rams go that route, hopefully they are one of them.
His whole account should be in blue font. I decided to see who this guy was. I suspect he’s actually an AI douche bot created for trolling. He looks like he’s 70 but just joined X in ‘24 and has less than 2000 followers. His posts are all douchy rumors. How the fuck he has even that many followers is a sad commentary on society.
El Chapo Jr
Legend
This is true. However I think there's also accountability required for the young QB. To be a top performer at this position in the NFL requires enormous amounts of buy-in by the QB, which includes studying film and working on the mental and physical aspects of the job.
So I try not to make it all about the coach. Also as it pertains to our staff, I think McVay and his boys are plenty good enough for bringing any young QB in this league to a level of excellence. But I also think they are capable of making a non-optimum selection or hitting a wall where a good QB is not good enough.
If we use the Colts as an example, they have a very good offensive mind running that offense in their HC position. Now granted I don't follow them like we do the Rams. But I like the way he draws it up and he was very effective in Philly. He tends to favor QBs who run threat and can do a little read action. Makes a big selection of a QB in the draft who shows very little in two years, suffers injuries and also takes himself out of a game for being tired/winded. Is Steichen the problem? Last year I would have said ok maybe he's just not HC material. But in comes Jones and boom that fuckin offense takes off in a similar fashion to the GSoT, meaning they had built a strong structure of offense but nobody knew it until they got a real QB in there.
We could do this with plenty of other teams too, there is no shortage of examples of young QBs who fall short not just because the coaches aren't good enough, but also because it's a tough fucking job and a lot of these boys aren't ready mentally to handle it. NFL defenses are no joke. You gotta have next level knowhow to read and diagnose when they're showing/shifting different looks pre and post snap on the back end and bringing heat on the front.
The QB has to read all that every snap. So I agree it's in part coaching. I agree young QBs have a hard road of it. But it's also the quality of the kid in that QB role.
Sure, it's on the coaches and the players.
But as for your example, Daniel Jones has been in the league for 6 years and had a decent season in 2022 before he even got to Steichen.
Anthony Richardson had only started 13 college games before he entered the league and thrust into the starting lineup way too early.
That's a bit too much hindsight for my taste.
Nobody prior to the season was talking up Indy. But they were the best offense in this league through the first half of the season. Saying "oh well Jones did have some good games prior" doesn't really factor in here. Fact is that the moment they plugged a QB in that offense who can distribute the ball to the talent they assembled that unit blasted off. Now the media is like "wow look at all these weapons."
Re: Richardson some of us like the upside. Some of us think he's only upside. I'm in the latter camp, and don't want to argue about what he is because that will be proven on the field. But as it pertained to the Colts throwing starts at him, he wasn't even remotely ready.
And the year before the Vikes were a good example with Darnold. Which I think favors your point of view with the staffs being so important. Really we see all this similarly, I just tend to feel the need to point out player responsibility in these discussions.
I think we are talking about two different things.
My comments above were in regards to the development of young QBs entering the league. Not veterans.
BTW, the insertion of Daniel Jones has shown a significant difference in the Colts offense this year, but so has not having all the OLine injuries and inexperience they were forced to deal with last year..
Where it applies is the difference in the offenses.
Vikes for example you had Darnold take them to what, 13 wins last year or so. This year that offense looks like dogshit with the kid QB. What we are seeing is the difference in safe distribution of the ball within the scheme.
So by comparison you can look at McCarthy and see he's not a very good QB. And if you wanted to get your sperg on you could peruse the difference in rosters last year to this year. But I don't think that's really necessary as I never really thought much of McCarthy in his Michigan days.
So it's the same shit with the Colts. And again what it comes down to is some of us think Richardson has upside and might get there. While others think Richardson has just upside and won't ever amount to shit. We'll see who's right.
Meanwhile you have young QBs coming into the league every year. I'm of the mind that drafting one gets you team control on the cheap. And if you can get one who is even borderline round 1 as a talent, so let's say a round 2 value roughly speaking, taking him late round 1 is actually smart because you get that 5th year option.
Also while it's on my mind... IF the Rams win it all this year with Stafford I think there's a strong chance he sails off into the sunset knowing the Hall is assured. Because he's a family man, and it would be an opportunity to go out on top knowing your long career is capped properly.
So then what would the Rams do hypothetically speaking.
I suspect they may make a play for that top pick, or failing that one of the others in the top 3.
So then what would the Rams do hypothetically speaking.
I suspect they may make a play for that top pick, or failing that one of the others in the top 3.
Classic Rams
Hall of Fame
In his interview with Garret he said he wants to play as long as he's having fun so he may not ride off. Who knows at this point but I expect him back next season either way.
The thought that Stafford is "looking" to retire is patently false, IMO. Spent 12 years in a horrible Detroit Lions situation, he wants to spend AS MUCH TIME POSSIBLE with the functional Rams and All-Time Great Head Coach Sean McVay as he can, also IMO.
He's 37. He's going to play his age 38, 39, 40, and beyond seasons at a high level as his contemporaries Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers did.
When he signed his new deal his comment was "I'm here for another year and maybe more after that".
He's also flirted with retirement the last 2 years.
That's not patently false that's his own words and actions.
He's "flirted" with retirement in the same manner Favre and Rodgers did, every year the last 5 years of their careers. And for the same reasons, ego, and MORE money.
Stafford plays 3-5 more years after this one. For the Rams or some other team. He’s at the highest level of "Quarterback intelligence" imaginable. If he's protected he can play this position in his sleep.
If he wins the Super Bowl this year, and praise the Lord he does, he will be playing for a 3rd, not retiring with this kind of rare talent in his brain and body left on the table.
Not trying to fight, this is my honest, very humble, opinion.
Last edited:
My whole point with Stafford and others who've done the same thing is there's no possible way you, I or anybody else on this board or others know that for sure. Absolutely money can make you put up with another year of beating. But like with guys like AD they can also walk away from it when they feel it's done.
The worst thing we can do IMO is to project our thoughts, feelings and motives on to others especially millionaire athletes who like with Stafford have taking a literal beating for close to two decades.