Which QB should the Rams draft in the 1st Round next year?

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dieterbrock said:
I love when posters think their opinion is “realistic”
Guys rise and fall and draft boards change a million times before draft day. We don’t know who the blue chip guys are. Jaxson Dart was shit talked left and right and was rated anywhere from a 2nd to late round by the experts and now he’s showing he’s pretty legit.
I’m confident that if the Rams see a guy worth spending the capital on, they will and then some.
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Aka no one bats 100 but we do get lucky. I wasn't a Dart guy but I was definitely wrong there. It happens. I feel like the only players that can usually be predicted ahead of time (closest to really accurate) of where they are drafted are at the top of the draft. Doesn't obviously mean that'll translate to the best players.
 
El Chapo Jr said:
Aka no one bats 100 but we do get lucky. I wasn't a Dart guy but I was definitely wrong there. It happens. I feel like the only players that can usually be predicted ahead of time (closest to really accurate) of where they are drafted are at the top of the draft. Doesn't obviously mean that'll translate to the best players.
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I agree 100%.
That being said, nobody has an accurate draft board (top of the draft) in November, the closer it gets to the draft the accuracy improves exponentially
 
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Merlin said:
It's certainly arguable either way. Except for Klubnik who I keep thinking is a junior.

I'm not sure Mateer is 6'1" he may be a little shorter than that. So if he comes in just over six foot he's not gonna go early, at least not with his current film.

Mensah on the other hand has more of the tool box you see of the guys who have potential to jump in round 1, meaning his height is over that 6'2" rough threshold. And his film this year looks really good to me, so he's set the stage for a coming out party next year.

For Mateer to jump he'd need elite film, and I don't know that happens if he sticks around. I can feel that ability he's got when I watch him, which is why I like the prospect and he's scrappy as hell but I think he's looking at round 2/3 grade at best whether he comes out or not.

Though one thing I prioritize in all this is draft position and maybe that's not as important to some of these guys as staying in school and slaying ass in the parties. Either way it's going to be cool to see what the class looks like once they're all declared. Because I think it potentially is set up in a way that favors the Rams, with second tier movers who have high competitive levels and fit McVay. I think this is the year we get our QBotF to sit behind 9.
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I guess these guys get measured by scouting services who go around to college camps while these guys are in school. McShay mentioned a while ago that Mateer was listed by one of these services as 6.003 which means 6'-0 3/8"
 
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Stl2La said:
I want Arvell Reese I’ll pass on a first round qb unless the talent/value is too much to overlook.
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Yeah, it seems this draft is loaded with top edges, which we don't need. It seems Reese is a tweener between off the ball LB and edge. As a LB, he might be worth moving up for. Could cap off a great and dominant front 7, if you think he can play LB in the pros. Not sure McVay would do that though as it would cost both first rd picks and he will be toy hunting. Out of the box thinking though.
 
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PhillyRam said:
I guess these guys get measured by scouting services who go around to college camps while these guys are in school. McShay mentioned a while ago that Mateer was listed by one of these services as 6.003 which means 6'-0 3/8"
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Yeah that doesn't surprise me. And that works against him in terms of how high I would take him. I think he might be an outlier, he's got the game to do it possibly. But I'd want him in a certain range.

That said the Panthers took Young 1 overall. So all it takes is one team to fall for the prospect.

To me if you're gonna take a QB up high you don't want a prospect who is going to be an outlier to succeed. There aren't that many QBs, percentage-wise, who can see the field and play with anticipation when they're at a certain height threshold or lower. You're gonna miss safeties and have higher risk of putting up bad throws, and those lead to higher turnover rates which are the biggest way to lose games.

If we end up with an outlier I'll get behind the choice and hope it works out of course. But in terms of preference I want a QB who is 6'2" or taller.
 
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PhillyRam said:
Some interesting draft discussion here. This guy has the Rams taking OSU's LB Sonny Styles. Admits it's a reach, but said he would be perfect for their defense. Of course, they would never take a LB that high.


View: https://www.youtube.com/live/IArD9YkklNI?si=7mSGSAI1tvg7RLB7
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I'm at the point I've accepted we won't take an ilb that high no matter how good they are or how much better the D will be if we did. Unfortunately it just seems to be their philosophy.

Kid I really like is Rodriguez at Texas Tech but he seems to be climbing the draft boards.
 
OldSchool said:
Dane is pretty good at his job and here's his rankings for top 25 overall. I also have noticed a lot of mocks with Caleb Downs dropping to our 1st pick which would be crazy.


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Yeah I think he has a good eye.

That said Simpson at the top of the QBs I agree with in terms of how he's playing, but it is doubtful things remain like that due to the size difference between him and the other options. Teams lose their shit over perceived upside during the combine stretch and pro days.

But we'll see how it shakes out.

Other than that I don't like seeing Sellers that high. Just think it's too much given how this season has gone for him, and that's even with the understanding that the protections are largely not his fault.

I plan on looking at the OTs but haven't really started yet. They look sort of underwhelming though as a group on his list with none of them ranking out in the top ten. So I wonder if that will align things for the Rams to go OT with that Falcons pick.
 
Merlin said:
That said Simpson at the top of the QBs I agree with in terms of how he's playing, but it is doubtful things remain like that due to the size difference between him and the other options. Teams lose their shit over perceived upside during the combine stretch and pro days.
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I think the downside with Simpson is the 25 or less starts stat which is pretty intimidating
 
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dieterbrock said:
I think the downside with Simpson is the 25 or less starts stat which is pretty intimidating
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Yes and like Dane pointed out in his QB interview vid the QBs with less than 25 starts do not have good track records in the NFL. He talked about Darnold and how he had to bounce around the NFL to get experience and he's right.

What pisses me off with QBs is how overvalued they are in the draft. And it's unavoidable. I get why. But it irritates the fuck out of me.

Like right now I have a preference list building in my head, which will change depending on who declares. But for example I think Cole Payton is perfect for the Rams because he's got the tools but only one year of starting, and he played at IAA so he should be available into let's say round 3. And this is my rough estimation of his value, which I realize is completely out of touch with mainstream media currently, where he isn't anywhere near round 3 in most lists.

But what I am projecting is teams will acknowledge his tools and inevitably overvalue him. And he'll jump up that board. How high I have no idea. Again I'd like to see us take him round 3 and stick his athletic ass behind Stafford to cook on the depth chart. Which allows for BPA with three prior picks in that top 100. However I fully expect that will change the same way it did with Dart last year, where he climbed from a supposed midround type (iirc he was listed round 3 early on) to late round one.
 
Merlin said:
Yeah I think he has a good eye.

That said Simpson at the top of the QBs I agree with in terms of how he's playing, but it is doubtful things remain like that due to the size difference between him and the other options. Teams lose their shit over perceived upside during the combine stretch and pro days.

But we'll see how it shakes out.

Other than that I don't like seeing Sellers that high. Just think it's too much given how this season has gone for him, and that's even with the understanding that the protections are largely not his fault.

I plan on looking at the OTs but haven't really started yet. They look sort of underwhelming though as a group on his list with none of them ranking out in the top ten. So I wonder if that will align things for the Rams to go OT with that Falcons pick.
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My take i agree with the lack starts on Simpson. That said I think he has all the tools including vision and his read progression. I'd be OK with drafting him based on him sitting behind 9 or Garapolli.

Sellers youre 100% buying on traits and upside. If McVay likes him and thinks he can make it works sign me up.

I'm not really looking too much at it other than players cause these draft spots can change.
 
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OldSchool said:
My take i agree with the lack starts on Simpson. That said I think he has all the tools including vision and his read progression. I'd be OK with drafting him based on him sitting behind 9 or Garapolli.

Sellers youre 100% buying on traits and upside. If McVay likes him and thinks he can make it works sign me up.

I'm not really looking too much at it other than players cause these draft spots can change.
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It's pretty wild that all of the QB's being discussed could stay in school and the draft would be left with Beck, Klubnik and Nussmeier as the "top" qbs. Yuck
 
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dieterbrock said:
I think the downside with Simpson is the 25 or less starts stat which is pretty intimidating
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I don't watch college football ... so I have no opinions at this time.

Your Best Guess on Simpson ... Is his listed size of 6'2" and 205-210 lbs accurate, or a little over-stated?

Regarding the Cornerbacks ... Do you agree with the above rankings of McCoy (9), Delane (19) and Terrell (21)?
Think it's possible Witherspoon, Williams, Durant and McCreary are all gone next year. That would leave just Forbes, me and you at CB.
 
OldSchool said:
My take i agree with the lack starts on Simpson. That said I think he has all the tools including vision and his read progression. I'd be OK with drafting him based on him sitting behind 9 or Garapolli.

Sellers youre 100% buying on traits and upside. If McVay likes him and thinks he can make it works sign me up.

I'm not really looking too much at it other than players cause these draft spots can change.
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We keep hearing how Shanahan can plug in just about any decent QB to his QB friendly offense and succeed. Well, so then why can't McVay do the same? Especially if a guy can sit for a year or two behind Stafford?

So yeah, if McVay likes the make up of a kid, no reason why it can't work and have some success.
 
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