Which QB should the Rams draft in the 1st Round next year?

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I have no idea how much Stafford is thinking about retirement. I do think the odds of retirement increases if he wins another Superbowl. Not much left to prove after that. But he sure is looking like his skills are far from declining. Arm still looks elite. Processing is elite. I'm not seeing a decline. And he was never a quarterback who relied on mobility. So that is not an issue. If I had to put money on it I'd bet he plays at least one more season after this one.

Question is, if they get a commitment for next season do they try and draft more talent with the premium picks? Or do they package those picks for Stafford's eventual replacement? Before the college season I thought it was gonna be a good draft for quarterbacks. But here we are past the halfway point and I don't see anyone separating themselves looking like a franchise quarterback.
 
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El Chapo Jr said:
That's if they deem that QB worthy of that high of a pick. I wouldn't be shocked to see all those top guys go way before our very 1st pick and lowering the QB value as a result. At that point, we are reaching. I'd rather trade back if that Falcons pick is super high if that is their plan to draft a QB first period. With that saud, if a stud WR or OT falls to us, I'm not confident McVay and Snead pass that up either. That Falcons pick is going to definitely have an impact on the route taken.
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Yep. That's the whole key. If the guy they want is there.
No one wants them to just draft a position over a player at any position.
 
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Memphis Ram said:
Sure the Rams could draft a QB with the second first. But, if the opportunity to get THEIR GUY with that top pick became available, they'd be crazy to pass on it. Why? Those opportunities don't always come when you want them and it's the most important position on the team.

Besides, chances are far higher of finding talent at other positions later in the draft than it is to find a QB.

For the sake of continuity, you grab that guy when you can while you can.
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It's still early, but I am guessing that any QB that has a shot of being a franchise QB with few risks, will be gone by pick 3. So do you gamble on whatever is leftover with pick 9-12? At best, maybe you pull the trigger after a trade down, if the guy is still expected to be there at say pick 15 or 16. At least you then get an extra pick if you burn a high first on a guy who you may like, but carries a lot of risks.
 
PhillyRam said:
It's still early, but I am guessing that any QB that has a shot of being a franchise QB with few risks, will be gone by pick 3. So do you gamble on whatever is leftover with pick 9-12? At best, maybe you pull the trigger after a trade down, if the guy is still expected to be there at say pick 15 or 16. At least you then get an extra pick if you burn a high first on a guy who you may like, but carries a lot of risks.
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I believe that they are all gambles. The last sure-fire guy to me was Luck.
So it's just a matter of who the organization thinks is their guy.

Each draft class is different.

Mahomes went 10th overall.
Allen went 7th overall.
Herbert went 6th overall.
Jackson went 32nd overall.
 
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El Chapo Jr said:
How is Brady a bad example? I'm comparing one Hall of Famer to another.
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It's like trying to use Jerry Rice as an example for WR longevity. Brady was an anomaly. Rice was an anomaly. You don't make decisions based off hoping your guy is an anomaly.
Fact is Stafford is literally having his best season of his career at 37 when supposedly his back was falling apart. Sorry, I'm not gonna doubt that man if he wants to keep playing but you are?
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Peyton Manning had the best statistical season of his career at 37. He was absolutely cooked and a shell of himself at 39. I'm going to be prepared for the future instead of hoping Father Time is merciful.
If Staffing retires, then I obviously understand the urgency at QB. However, reaching for a QB to sit behind Stafford while bypassing better talent isn't the smart thing to do. Taking a stud OT or even a WR like Tyson would be a great way to ensure Stafford has an even better chance for an encore if he sticks around. There will be QBs available later in the 1st or even in the 2nd. I know we agree on this one though.....Stetson ain't that QB of the future. I'd be extremely shocked if that happened, but it would be awesome if he turned out to be awesome.
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Nobody advocated for us to "reach" for a QB, so we can put that straw man to rest. If there's a potential franchise QB available to us, we should take him. There's no guarantee a worthwhile QB will be available later in the first or the second. There's no guarantee a worthwhile QB will be available when we first pick. I defer to McVay on which QBs he likes and when they'll be available. But I don't support the idea that we shouldn't take a QB early because of what Stafford could or might do. The worst thing that can happen to you in the NFL, besides hiring a terrible HC, is being one of the teams that doesn't have a good QB when the music stops.

Agreed on Stetson.
 
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El Chapo Jr said:
I feel like those top QBs will go within the top 5. I'm not confident the Rams will pick that high but wouldn't be mad if I'm wrong. If I had a pick of what QB, I'd want Mendoza but he's going number 1 so that's a pipe dream.
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Yeah it's hard to imagine Mendoza sliding.

Re: the dudes I mentioned... Mateer and Leavitt to my eye look like round 2-3 types, which with QBs means teams may pull the trigger round 2 range. I doubt either blow teams minds with their arms in their pro days and that tends to be a big factor in the early going, that and size/athleticism combo as every team imagines they are drafting the next Allen. This is how a shitter like Richardson ends up going 3 overall. Seems like that supply/demand effect is required to push a guy with poor film way up. If you're up there you're a physical freak with decent or better film, or your film is good enough to overcome physical questions, which is the only thing I think is keeping Simpson in the mix since he is smaller in frame.

Klubnik should go a bit after those two, but personally I like Klubnik and would be ok with us taking him. But it looks like those aforementioned two and Klubnik and some others are in that barely tall enough range which means I doubt they're gonna jump too high on the board as their film would probably need to be better.

That said I admit that I find it hard to tell where QBs are going to go and am often way off. Plus the biggest games are ahead on the schedule, which will drive our opinions on these matters too. So who knows what the list is going to look like by spring.
 
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Merlin said:
Yeah it's hard to imagine Mendoza sliding.

Re: the dudes I mentioned... Mateer and Leavitt to my eye look like round 2-3 types, which with QBs means teams may pull the trigger round 2 range. I doubt either blow teams minds with their arms in their pro days and that tends to be a big factor in the early going, that and size/athleticism combo as every team imagines they are drafting the next Allen. This is how a shitter like Richardson ends up going 3 overall. Seems like that supply/demand effect is required to push a guy with poor film way up. If you're up there you're a physical freak with decent or better film, or your film is good enough to overcome physical questions, which is the only thing I think is keeping Simpson in the mix since he is smaller in frame.

Klubnik should go a bit after those two, but personally I like Klubnik and would be ok with us taking him. But it looks like those aforementioned two and Klubnik and some others are in that barely tall enough range which means I doubt they're gonna jump too high on the board as their film would probably need to be better.

That said I admit that I find it hard to tell where QBs are going to go and am often way off. Plus the biggest games are ahead on the schedule, which will drive our opinions on these matters too. So who knows what the list is going to look like by spring.
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Leavitt and Mateer have every reason to return to school if they're Day 2 or Day 3 picks, especially Leavitt.
 
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jrry32 said:
It's like trying to use Jerry Rice as an example for WR longevity. Brady was an anomaly. Rice was an anomaly. You don't make decisions based off hoping your guy is an anomaly.

Peyton Manning had the best statistical season of his career at 37. He was absolutely cooked and a shell of himself at 39. I'm going to be prepared for the future instead of hoping Father Time is merciful.

Nobody advocated for us to "reach" for a QB, so we can put that straw man to rest. If there's a potential franchise QB available to us, we should take him. There's no guarantee a worthwhile QB will be available later in the first or the second. There's no guarantee a worthwhile QB will be available when we first pick. I defer to McVay on which QBs he likes and when they'll be available. But I don't support the idea that we shouldn't take a QB early because of what Stafford could or might do. The worst thing that can happen to you in the NFL, besides hiring a terrible HC, is being one of the teams that doesn't have a good QB when the music stops.

Agreed on Stetson.
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I guess the question should be, would you trade up, possibly costing both first round picks, for Simpson or Mendoza, which might be the only guys worthy of taking in the top half of round 1?
 
jrry32 said:
It's like trying to use Jerry Rice as an example for WR longevity. Brady was an anomaly. Rice was an anomaly. You don't make decisions based off hoping your guy is an anomaly.

Peyton Manning had the best statistical season of his career at 37. He was absolutely cooked and a shell of himself at 39. I'm going to be prepared for the future instead of hoping Father Time is merciful.

Nobody advocated for us to "reach" for a QB, so we can put that straw man to rest. If there's a potential franchise QB available to us, we should take him. There's no guarantee a worthwhile QB will be available later in the first or the second. There's no guarantee a worthwhile QB will be available when we first pick. I defer to McVay on which QBs he likes and when they'll be available. But I don't support the idea that we shouldn't take a QB early because of what Stafford could or might do. The worst thing that can happen to you in the NFL, besides hiring a terrible HC, is being one of the teams that doesn't have a good QB when the music stops.

Agreed on Stetson.
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No worry, not saying anyone is advocating reaching just simply saying I don't want the Rams to do it as nothing we say matters in the grand scheme of what the Rams FO decides to do. I'm not willing to bet Stafford falls off a cliff if he wants to keep going. He definitely takes pride in being a QB and puts in the required work so I trust him in that department. I'm just more in the line of thinking they'll go elite talent first then go project QB after if he runs it back. Another tiny tiny concern of mine (the more I think about ot) is if Snead is eye balling Manning from a distance and does another Falcon type trade if they don't like what they see.
 
It's just not shaping up to be a great year for the Rams to pick a QB high, imo.

But so much depends on Stafford. If he gets through this year really healthy? I don't see any reason he steps away if he's performing close to what he has up to this point.
 
It’s true the QBs have really disappointed this year. Then again, it could work in our favor. If McVay loves one of these guys who has disappointed - enabling him to get the guy (& later than expected). That’s my glass half full attempt lol
 
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He's a 37 year old QB who has back and elbow problems who has talked about retirement. The question is if there's a QB worth taking. If there is, take him. There is zero reason to be shortsighted here.
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Exactly. The last thing you want to do is waste the prime years of a really good core young roster by leaving yourself unprepared at the QB position.
 
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jjab360 said:
Exactly. The last thing you want to do is waste the prime years of a really good core young roster by leaving yourself unprepared at the QB position.
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Totally.. but you just don't force it.

I mean.. you could always take a swing on a Zach Wilson or Anthony Richardson as a backup next year. Not sure if there are any other real candidates for that career-resurgence we've seen with Mayfield and Darnold.. even Daniel Jones. Mayfield actually showed something with Cleveland.. Darnold.. man.. did not see him getting this good... and Jones is in a perfect situation.

Wilson would seem to have a chance.. based on youth.. and physical talent. He's got real arm talent.
 
I don't want a retread. I want a round 1 QB who comes with 5 years of team control. Then sit his ass behind Stafford.

Dart would have been perfect. Dude is going to be a star. Rams this time around need to be aggressive in their draft positioning because teams will see them as a QB drafting threat, and rightly so given the age of our QB1.
 
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